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SOWNY » What Was The Best Year For Music On The Radio? » December 15, 2024 10:57 pm

Paul Jeffries wrote:

Jody Thornton wrote:

This would exemplify another area where modern radio would let me down though, and that would be deeper playlists of those years/ranges mentioned.  When it comes to 80s music, we hear what's researched and palatable sounding for modern-day, rather than what was heard back then.  Next time I hear Simple Minds, could it please be "Promise You A Miracle", instead of "Don't You Forget About Me"?  How about "De Do Do Do, De Da Da Da" from the Police, instead of another fatiguing play of "Every Breath ...".  But that won't ever happen.

Most commercial classic hits stations play about 25% of the music from the youth of their target audience because the other 75% supposedly "doesn't test very well".



PJ


 

Oh I understand why.  It just means another reason why radio no longer suits me. :D

SOWNY » What Was The Best Year For Music On The Radio? » December 15, 2024 6:46 pm

Paul Jeffries wrote:

Not sure what would classify as the best year(s), but I do know my favorite years are 1977-79, as late 1977 was the year I start listening to "my own" radio stations (mostly Top 40) as opposed to what my parents listened to.

Also, 1987 strikes me as being a good year for music, because unlike other years in that decade, there didn't seem to be one single genre that dominated the pop charts; there was a little bit of everything for everybody that year: pop, rock, classic rock, dance, new wave, hair metal, etc.

PJ

I would say that if I had a range of years that I could not live without, it would be 1976 through to 1984.  If I had to say favourite years, it would be 1980, 1981 and 1990.  Mind you, I'd still be excluding a wealth of music.

This would exemplify another area where modern radio would let me down though, and that would be deeper playlists of those years/ranges mentioned.  When it comes to 80s music, we hear what's researched and palatable sounding for modern-day, rather than what was heard back then.  Next time I hear Simple Minds, could it please be "Promise You A Miracle", instead of "Don't You Forget About Me"?  How about "De Do Do Do, De Da Da Da" from the Police, instead of another fatiguing play of "Every Breath ...".  But that won't ever happen.

I'm with Paul on 1987 being a "best" year though, for the reasons he mentioned.  It's not my favourite year, but it could be an overall best.

SOWNY » Why You May Never Hear These Newly Discovered Michael Jackson Songs » December 13, 2024 8:21 am

There was a rap in Black Or White.  Nonetheless, an interesting find.  Were these digitally stored files or tape?  If this was beyond the late 90s, I'd hardly think it was analog open-reel.

SOWNY » Furey In For Brady On AM640 Friday - So Who Gets Oakley's Show? » December 11, 2024 6:57 pm

RadioAaron wrote:

RadioAaron wrote:

Drex

This isn’t a guess.

Is he on Indie now?

SOWNY » Do You Remember Your First Time On Air? » December 8, 2024 9:53 am

My first volunteer on-air experience was at CHMR Mohawk in September 1989.  But as for a real gig, I was first on air at CIAM Cambridge (AM96), in March 1991.  I was there for a one-month placement, and would be hired for overnights in April 1991.  But in March, Ron Shirley (known then as Early Shirley), let me go on at around 3:50 am until 5 am.  He intro'd me as, "Coming Up ... my friend ... my pal (even though he won't admit it), Jody Thornton.  He'll take you through to 5 o'clock.  Enjoy".

My first pop of the mic was three minutes later over the post of "Impulsive" by Wilson Phillips.  I wish I could feel just like that moment once again, and I wish I savoured it more.  But it's not a moment that can ever return.  It was overnights, first off, plus there was physical media to manipulate, and an old McCurdy board with average-hold meters (apparently a similar board was used at CHYR in Leamington during the 70s and 80s).  I even was able to spin gold selections on old 45-rpm promos.  Good times!
 

SOWNY » Sign of the times - Mohawk College axes broadcasting courses » December 7, 2024 9:54 am

Mind you, I'm glad to see people like Dan Freeman and Darrin Laidman (at least seemingly) having fun and doing what they love.  I do genuinely worry for their futures though, and I want the absolute best for them.  But I agree that networking talent undervalues their contributions.  Sure they may be heard province or nation wide, but except for the John Tesh example, it's not as though they are being paid like a syndicated host.
 

SOWNY » Sign of the times - Mohawk College axes broadcasting courses » December 7, 2024 9:33 am

It's after reading stuff like this, that when I then go to places like the Radio Station Lounge on Facebook, I facepalm myself at the echo chamber there.  That's where you'll hear things like:

+ Radio is not dead: it's just changing.  Everything changes
+ Radio is just reinventing itself
(well I guess going from vitality to death IS a state of change)

And gawd forbid if you EVER say anything against the tide of popular opinion there.  Get ready for tar and feathers.  Yikes!  I've never understood how, if you say anything negative about radio on a radio forum, that equates to trolling.  To me, that's a dose of reality.  Plain and simple.  It was what helped me decide to leave the business.  Trust me, there is a quality of life, happiness and money outside of radio.  One starts to realize that having such a deep passion for a career choice can be like a really bad addiction.  Like an addiction, the medium does not love you back.  But if you say something like that on a radio Facebok group, good night.  There should be room for negative AND positive points to be made for the medium.

I don't know ... when I contemplate that we're in a world where CHML doesn't even exist, and stations like Bounce (which we listen to at work) has daily repetition so severe, it's worse than the stomach repeats you get from eating baked beans, you know the medium is well past its best before date.

SOWNY » Whatever Happened To Larry Silver? » December 5, 2024 8:08 pm

I last saw Larry at a Radio Station Lounge getogether at a restaurant in Acton.  It was just over a year ago, at the end of September 2023, and had a conversation about news radio as a format.  I don't keep in touch, or really know him on a personal level.  

SOWNY » Radio Ratings: If Only We Had This Access » December 3, 2024 7:15 pm

What was the reasoning behind Numeris blocking public access to ratings?

SOWNY » What Will They Think Of Next? How About A Knitted Antenna? » November 27, 2024 6:45 pm

RadioActive wrote:

Jody Thornton wrote:

I hear reception, at best, is sew-sew 

Well, it does give them blanket coverage. 

Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
 

SOWNY » More layoffs at Rogers » November 21, 2024 7:20 pm

eladb wrote:

If Steve Roberts is one of the casualties, that would be sad. He's one of the better ones.

It certainly sounds like the business editors were laid off. Other than Mike Eppel during the morning show, there haven't been business editors doing the updates at :26 and :56 past the hours since yesterday. The news anchors have been doing those themselves.

Were the segments canned altogether, or just voice by someone other?  I know Ari Rabinovitch was one of them, so I hope he was spared.

Seemed to be not long ago that 680 was one of those few AM stations that made its own money, but I really worry about its future.  To me, it was one of the few ways that AM radio could justifiably continue to exist.  We'll see I guess.

SOWNY » More layoffs at Rogers » November 21, 2024 8:28 am

Am I correct in hearing Steve Roberts was one of the casualties at 680?

SOWNY » Associated Press announces cuts to 8% of it's workforce » November 20, 2024 8:15 am

RadioAaron wrote:

It would seem they laid off their SOWNY subject-line punctuation-checker

Its quite possible 

SOWNY » Jerry and Anthony » November 5, 2024 8:15 am

Maybe he's saying Jerry will have show prep challenges .  There!  All about radio now.
I tried RA.

SOWNY » This Is Sort Of TV Related » November 4, 2024 7:02 pm

Since most mobile users NEVER use landscape to create video on their phones (by turning it 90%), you see that side cropped view ala TikTok and Facebook shorts.  This bugs you and me, because we want to be able to watch some of this content using legit everyday video devices,

But the fact is, phones are that to most people.  I held off on having any smartphone, until September 2019, when my niece gave me her iPhone 6s.  I've developed a fondness for older iPhone 4x, 5x and 6x phones since then, but really,  I could not live without this device in the real world now.  It's not so much that it's convenient, or that I even need it ... it's that the rest of your employment existence (work, boss, payroll, etc...) EXPECTS you have a device on you, or else you can't participate in daily work life.

SOWNY » Special Unannounced Guest On Saturday's SNL: V.P. Kamala Harris » November 3, 2024 11:12 am

67GreenRambler wrote:

And it violated 'equal time' provisions in Election laws. Lorne Michaels and NBC brass know this but did it anyway.

Looks like over time, the complaint has swung in either direction:
https://www.poynter.org/ethics-trust/2019/do-the-networks-have-to-give-equal-time-in-a-word-no/

SOWNY » This Hit Music Radio Station Is Fully AI-Generated » November 3, 2024 9:04 am

Couldn't this really just be a modern take on TM Stereo Rock automation though?  It was soulless ... sure, but I listened to the old Rock 102 for HOURS on end.

The AI content would likely be more imaginative than John Borders saying "that was ... before that" back in the day.  I guess the only thing was in the 70s and early 80s, scratch-free, clear, non-stop popular music was NOT the norm back then.  I would always veer back to the AM dial for CHUM, WKBW, CFTR or CKOC.  Now, you can hear this music anywhere, and of course, scratch-free with no chatter over top

SOWNY » Solution to Political Threads » November 3, 2024 2:25 am

Hey RA, since this is related to the now locked "National Post" thread, I wanted to pass along an idea.

Because these topics can veer political, what if there was an "off-topic" forum section made?  Would that help with those issues?  That way, those interested can espouse their views, yet keep politics away from radio/television related threads.

Just a thought

 

SOWNY » These New Spots Are Worse Than Spence! » October 28, 2024 7:17 am

The Sunwing "Flynancial" advisor spot is running on 680, but I've also heard the adbove two (Intended to correct the spelling of "above" just prior to this, and then I thought, "Wait, there's a pun lurking in there somewhere  ).  I actually like the sound of the voice artists in these.  I wonder who they?  But the spots themselves are nauseating.

SOWNY » Two Roundtable Panelists Openly Condemn CFRB - On CFRB » October 22, 2024 11:19 am

RadioActive wrote:

It's been quite a day for insider radio on NT1010. On his "Party For Two" segment at 11AM, Agar welcomed in Assistant Program Director and SOWNY board favourite Robert Turner as his guest. 
 
At one point, a listener emailed a question. "If he's the Assistant PD., who is the actual P.D.?"

Agar's answer was perfect. "We don't have one. That way we get to pay him less money." 

Given Bell's notoriously penurious purse strings, I actually believe it!
 

His name escapes me, but didn't they have a brand manager brought over from TSN 1050, when Bendixen got tossed?  Is he gone too?
 

SOWNY » Toronto Getting Yet Another New Area Code Next Year » October 17, 2024 9:44 am

I recall that prior to 1992, we in the 905 were also part of the 416.  I remember a voice tag by Ron Yantho (Michaels) at CHNR in Simcoe, Ontario stating "416" before a number, so that's fairly recent in the whole scheme of things.

SOWNY » Former One Direction Member Dead at 51 » October 17, 2024 9:38 am

Pssst ... drop the age by twenty years

SOWNY » Today Is The Official 15th Anniversary Of Moore In The Morning » October 6, 2024 5:22 pm

paterson1 wrote:

John Oakley had afternoon drive in the early 2000's but for how long?  Moore was on afternoons for at least a couple of years on RB but I am not sure how many years prior before moving to mornings in 2009.

2003 through to 2009

SOWNY » Who Was Your Favourite D.J. Influence When You Were A Kid? » September 30, 2024 11:00 am

Charlie Van Dyke has my voice of choice.  I love how he sounded in the 90s and 90s.
Dan Williamson was also a favourite during the CKFM and early Mix era.
 

SOWNY » FM Station Adopts New Format: Radio For Dogs » September 26, 2024 9:10 am

RadioActive wrote:

I can't wait for their contests, where they'll take the fifth "collar."

That's terrible !!!  Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
 

SOWNY » FM Station Adopts New Format: Radio For Dogs » September 26, 2024 8:41 am

I predict it will have a "ruff" go in the ratings!

PS - Awwww darn - I didn't see you used "Ruff" already.  I thought I was being so original.  Sigh! :D
 

SOWNY » 680 Mornings! Is This What I Think It Is? » September 23, 2024 7:16 pm

yyzradioveteran wrote:

Paul is on vacation until Wednesday or so I've heard. 

Well that's certainly good news to hear.  Still it's concerning when fill-ins stop saying who they're in for.

SOWNY » AM640 And Newstalk 1010 Need More Show Biz » September 21, 2024 3:14 pm

paterson1 wrote:

One thing that Toronto's two struggling AM talk radio stations seem to lack (in addition to having any fun) is a real scarcity of show biz news or features.

Hear, Here!  I think John Moore could be better utilized in a major way.  He has show biz smarts, and seemed to showcase this more when he did his afternoon show.  John would often have Ann Shatilla on talking about Hollywood gossip.  There was the cocktail hour and a great theme and bumper music from Kill Bill (Battle Without Honour, something ...)

John playing quarterback to a bunch of pundits and panelists seem tired and limiting.  Roundtables were getting harder to bear back when I last listened, when it was always Jerry and Deb lined up with Scott Reid.  The topical positions of Marc Warner and Laura Babcock were always predictable.  Amanda Gailbraith seems to think all of the topics are ho-hum, and never seems to care about being there.  Shelley Carroll tries to be a polished city politician.  Sigh!  See what I mean?  Maybe it has improved lately, and RA did say Alan Carter is on now, so hopefully there is some betterment of the segments.

But given that patterson1 has revisited the lack of pop culture programming on 1010 and 640, methinks, perhaps not.

SOWNY » 680 Mornings! Is This What I Think It Is? » September 21, 2024 10:52 am

Shorty Wave wrote:

Would not surprise me Jody. When Keith Pelley made the multi-billion dollar Rogers/NHL deal, I was one of the former broadcast staffers they cut and I can assure you that my salary was a mere micro drop in the bucket. They were not a nice company to work for, to put it mildly and I would have a certain sense of schadenfreude if the deal wasn’t approved, but it will be, Rogers always gets it way somehow…..

I'm actually surprised there isn't more of a reaction or speculation on this board about this, given how much bigger and more relevant of an AM station this is in the GTA (at least compared to 1010 or 640).  Plus, Paul Cook has been there for ages.  Oh well, everyone is free to be interested in what they want to be, I suppose.

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