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SOWNY » Rebel News David Menzies arrested » Today 12:42 am

Saul
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A couple points to RA's and Jody's comments, above...

- When I listen to podcasts, I'm impressed that the people who put them together can maintain focus for longer than the 2-3 minutes I get with talk radio. They're right up there with CBC programs like Ideas or Under the Influence. Jody's right, and I hope podcasts help pave the way to a bright future for spoken-word 'radio'.

- It might be a bit of a stretch to think of whatever comes next, in some online form, as radio. But if the word 'radio' paves a path to whatever comes next, so be it. Radios, or newspapers and other forms of media for that matter, are simply delivery trucks. To a considerable degree they help shape and define how content is presented, and what form it takes, but at the end of the day it's content, and it's the content that matters. Without content, no delivery vehicle - terrestrial or online - is worth much. Modern-era owners, by and large, often don't seem to get it. A slight tangent - AM is nearing its end and that makes it compelling to discuss, IMO. Maybe the discussion here isn't high level enough...maybe less rubbernecking at the 640-1010 pile-up and more analytical could be expected here.

- Over the air broadcasters, particularly in radio, have shown little if any ability to plan the future and program over the airwaves in 'real-time' to create synergy between older and newer delivery trucks. But the media companies aren't alone - office equipment and other technology-driven products have also shifted to a considerable degree to new manufacturers. To varying degrees, these products are also delivery trucks.\

- Just as there's a lot of crap on conventional radio (and TV), there are gems. Generally, quality is in the eye of the beholder. I'm no fan of Coronation Street; if I was on a deserted island, I'd rather stare at a palm tree. But it's the genre and storylines I dislike. They're not my thing. But the acting is solid and production exceptional. Anyhow, I solve my possibly unrea

SOWNY » Attn. CTV Toronto: Can You Send Someone With A Bottle Of Windex? » Today 12:17 am

For the longest time they had a shot of the city from Polson Pier that was suddenly interrupted by a huge rusting ugly lake freighter docked in the way, and left it there for several weeks before moving to what I believe is the shot at the top of this thread.    It gave me a chuckle looking at it when they broke for the shot during the weather until one day someone in control there woke up and realized what was now in the view.

It definitely dove tailed well into CFTO's recent "don't give a sh*t"  approach brought on by being understaffed due to all the cuts.  

BTW, recently their news reporting has reached a new low.   So many reports consist of simply interviewing bystanders (not witnesses) about their feelings and then parroting police statements with nothing in them that I don't watch them any more because they don't provide any useful information, while Global and the rest actually provide analysis and do a little background digging despite having their own dire staffing issues.

There was a boating tragedy a few weeks ago where Global did all kinds of interviews and social media follow up to glean information on what happened, while CFTO just reported the tight lipped information-free OPP statement.   A few days later CFTO led with "an update" which consisted of the OPP saying they had nothing to add.    Don't get those shoes dirty chasing the stories boys and girls!
 

SOWNY » A Canadian team makes the Stanley Cup final » Today 12:03 am

RadioActive
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I have to admit being a bit surprised by what The Fan 590 did on Friday. They carried the Blue Jays game as usual, another disastrous night in Cleveland. (Which one of the sportscasters on 680 insists on constantly calling “The C-L-E” for some reason.) Then they did Jays talk. And only then, around the 10:15 PM or so mark, they signed off and picked up the Stanley Cup final coverage for the last few minutes of the Oilers-Panthers game.

This was, of course, the possible game where the Cup could have been won. It might literally have been the Stanley Cup Final.
 
Look I get it, the Leafs aren’t in it, but given the remarkable Edmonton comeback, the interest in this series and the status hockey in general has in Canada, why wouldn’t they shunt the game over to 680? Instead, Toronto listeners without access to a TV at the time it was on couldn’t hear anything but the final few minutes. I was frankly stunned that they didn’t carry it anywhere else.

I certainly hope they don’t make that same mistake on Monday night. But the Jays are playing the Red Sox at Fenway, which means The Fan is obligated to take the Jays game. Knowing this is definitely the last NHL game of the season with historic implications, if this doesn’t end upon TSN 1050, will 680 take it?

SOWNY » When Will The New Owner Start Programming CKOC, CHAM & CKWW? » Today 12:01 am

As Andysradio said: Decision next week. The CRTC plans to issue the following decisions and/or regulatory policies in the week of 25 to 28 June 2024. This is subject to change without notice.Broadcasting decisions:• Neeti P. Ray, on behalf of corporations to be incorporated
Hamilton and Windsor, Ontario
CKWW Windsor, CHAM Hamilton and CKOC Hamilton – Change in ownership and effective control
Public records: 2023-0534-1, 2023-0629-0 and 2023-0630-8

SOWNY » When Will The New Owner Start Programming CKOC, CHAM & CKWW? » Yesterday 11:21 pm

RadioActive
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And I recall him musing about leaving CKWW alone, but who knows what he might ultimately do with it?

SOWNY » Another Country Readies To Switch Off All FM Broadcasting » Yesterday 11:19 pm

RadioActive
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Alan Cross muses about why a nearly all DAB world might one day be a problem for North American radio. 

France will cease all FM radio broadcasting by 2033. This portends a problem for North America.

SOWNY » When Will The New Owner Start Programming CKOC, CHAM & CKWW? » Yesterday 11:16 pm

Brad
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Bounce was sold off separately to White Oaks, along with HTZ FM and Move 105.7 in St Catharines.

But the two AM's he bought were both automated. BNN Bloomberg 1150 would have to change pretty quick since that was just audio of the Bell's BNN TV channel. Funny 820 might have some time to change.

SOWNY » Buffalo Getting a Latino-Hispanic Station On HD FM » Yesterday 11:14 pm

RadioActive
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It's a first of its kind for Western New York and it will be on Buffalo's educational outlet WBFO, over HD3. It will be called "Radio Bilingüe" and will offer "a variety of programming including music, news and information, and forums for Latino voices. The dialogue aims to be inclusive, including the Spanish, English, Mixtec and Triqui languages. The programming focuses on Latino arts and culture."

There's no exact debut date announced, except for 'sometime this summer.'

Latino radio station coming to WNY

SOWNY » When Will The New Owner Start Programming CKOC, CHAM & CKWW? » Yesterday 10:55 pm

RadioActive
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So let's presume the CRTC gives a thumb's up to the deal and Neeti Ray officially takes possession of the stations he bought. How long before we see any on air changes? I doubt it will be the next day or week, but how soon will say, Funny 820 have its last laugh? It's probably the one station of the three I will miss most, but I will be very curious to see what he does with all three of them. He's certainly had enough time to plan out his next moves. 

SOWNY » Rebel News David Menzies arrested » Yesterday 10:46 pm

RadioActive
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Boy did I pick a bad day to take a day off from this Board! But it couldn't be helped.

I have to say I was worried about this thread from the moment it was resurrected. There is no winning with stuff like this, since someone's ox will inevitably be gored. Which is why I try to keep it off here for the most part. But as noted, this involved two major talk stations allowing an Internet "broadcaster" on its airwaves and I thought that made it relevant. But perhaps we just can't let stuff like this go, because inevitably someone takes offence while others will go too far. 

As for the other issues raised in my absence, some quick observations.

-Re: Jody Thornton's always interesting comments:

I've said it before and will say it again. I have no problem dealing with any of the issues he raised. I post stuff about the stations I listen to, because I can talk about what I heard. Anyone who wants to start threads on CHUM-FM, CHFI, Indie 88.1- pick your station of choice - or even a relevant podcast, is welcome to do so. But it seems no one ever does, which leads me to believe a) those who gather here don't listen to them or b) they rarely do anything worth commenting on. Yes, CHUM-FM recently switched a morning host to afternoons and that made news here. But in general, when all you play is music, what is there to post? That I like the new Taylor Swift song they added? 

Somehow 640 and 1010 often make news by following the news and thus there's plenty of fodder for comments. But feel free to talk about anyone else. I, for one, would welcome it. 

-Jody's other suggested topics are fine. I'm not just not sure what the responses would be. But instead of merely suggesting them, I would welcome his posting about them to try and generate discussion. Well, except for maybe that thing about me and podcasts! Maybe one day I'll find something I like enough to make the effort but for now, they're simply not on my radar. And as a non-stop dial switcher, it would be technically

SOWNY » Bill Maher's Friday HBO Show May Be Strangely Different This Week » Yesterday 10:05 pm

RadioActive
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I thought it was great and it made me laugh - even though I was never a fan of the Glick character. They say if you can make a professional comedian laugh you've done something. Short did just that, IMHO. And I loved Maher's reference to "most of the cast of SCTV" being talented.

SOWNY » When Will The New Owner Start Programming CKOC, CHAM & CKWW? » Yesterday 9:18 pm

Brad
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I just happened to drive past where the radio stations used to be today. All the logos (Bounce/BNN Bloomberg/Funny 820) have all be removed from the building beside Limeridge Mall in Hamilton. Now I know there is no one on air at two of the stations, but someone mentioned in another forum that Bounce co-host Matt Hayes was working from home. Bounce was sold off separately, but is the work from home thing temporary until the new owner get the go ahead?

SOWNY » Canada's Alex Trebek Honoured On A U.S. Stamp » Yesterday 11:56 am

newsguy1
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I didn't know Donald Sutherland got a stamp before he died -- but gosh, what a somber portrait.
He mainly got famous for being cast in goofy or quirky roles.



 

SOWNY » Rebel News David Menzies arrested » Yesterday 11:34 am

paterson1
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Interesting comments and thoughts Jody.  One thing that has always struck me is the number of registered users (1564) and the number that post or comment on anything. That total would not be very large.  Maybe 40-60 actually post or comment on anything. 

Also we have three types of participants.  Those that link articles and or offer information, throw out topics for discussion like your favourite summer songs etc.  Others that only comment on what has been posted by someone else, but almost never initiate any topics of their own.  And the last group that do both, offer up topics and also comment what others have posted.  

I always thought that the fixation with certain topics like AM radio, nostolgia about the good old days of US prime time TV, complaining about CBC, CRTC, TVO, cancon, government regulations etc. etc. and general dislike of broadcasting today had more to do with the average age of those that post.  I am guessing would be late 40's-early 70's, with the majority of this age group in the older end. 

Overall I enjoy the lively debates, either participating or just reading.  It looks like most of our registered users are reading and likely going through the many pages of 78,113 posts and 11,736 topics. 

SOWNY is certainly more active than most other radio/TV sites I have come across.  Radio Discussions in Buffalo and Detroit can go weeks with nobody posting or commenting on anything.  Michigan Radio and TV Buzzboard gets tedious and downright mean in some comments. They do have regional forums that include SW Ontario which is often entertaining. It is interesting to read what US listeners think of Canadian radio.  

Hats off to our friends at RadioWest.ca who have an excellent site that is different than SOWNY and focuses on Western Canada and a little on the US Pacific Northwest. However they also have regional categories with information and comment on radio for the rest of the country.  Their site has daily features like CanCon

SOWNY » Rebel News David Menzies arrested » Yesterday 11:14 am

Jody Thornton wrote:

But if we're going to appear progressive, and in the here and now, discussions that I'm criticizing should only appear every so often.  Most millennials and GenZs that you SHOULD WANT to be attracted to this board do not care one iota about AM radio period ... much less talk radio.  American auto makers crying afoul about the demise of AM radio in cars and its impact on security and safety is pure fear mongering silliness.  AM is dying (actually terrestrial radio is dying - ONLY radio people deny it).  I did care about that once, either when I was working in it, or when I loved listening to it.  News for some of you - there is MUCH MUCH better content elsewhere, and I mean by a mile.

Yes, most of that content is online, which means we should talk about it here, because what replaces radio eventually, is also relevant to the discussion of radio.  We need to stop being in the "live and local" and "radio still has life in it" echo chambers, because that's what we're becoming.
 

Amen to all these points Jody, particularly the one quote captured above. I wish more people here would give podcasts a chance because I've found many that are enlightening and entertaining. Yes, some podcasts are too long, too amateurish and too self-absorbed, but so was a lot of early radio back in the days when it was run on a shoestring by hobbyists and a few forward thinking businessmen. Content will evolve and improve over time, just as it did with radio, television and streaming services. Twenty years from now, terrestrial radio will be looked upon as a quaint relic kept alive by some philanthropic folks catering to small, niche audiences.

With diminishing resources, radio's capacity for breaking news coverage has largely been superseded by social media, which often breaks stories far faster than they can be put on the air. Look at yesterday's announcement of the immediate closure of the Ontario Science Centre. Reporters from the Star and Global were

SOWNY » Rebel News David Menzies arrested » Yesterday 11:07 am

Chrisphen
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We could also discuss the dimensions of broadcast editorialising, which is entirely relevant to this august forum.

SOWNY » Rebel News David Menzies arrested » Yesterday 8:34 am

Glen Warren wrote:

Question: 
When you are in the studio, what is your preferred microphone...  an EV RE20 or a Shure SM-7?
 

Hopefully I didn't misunderstand, but if you meant by this to suggest other, more relevant topics we should be discussing on SOWNY, I fully agree.  I think that, because there's a disproportionate amount of discussion regarding two lowly rated AM frequencies, duking it out over an aging format, we discuss too much of WHAT they talk about,  That should be something that station fans or listeners should discuss; not insiders.

We should have more discussion surrounding formatics, jingle package effectiveness (and by that I mean modern ), break content and quality or automation systems.  We should get more questions such as (just as examples):

(a) Is 80s gold still warranted so heavily on AC stations, now that millennials become the core audience?
(b) How can talk be made more relevant for Gen Z audiences to attract them?  Or is that now YouTube and TikTok?
(c) Is Live/Local really the solution to radio's woes, or is it compelling content?
(d) How can streaming incorporate ratings, in a way that broadcasters can leave the costs and infrastructure of terrestrial radio behind?
(e) How can we better mentor young broadcasters, when companies cut more costs.
(f) Where can beginners gain experience (now that post secondary media courses and overnights have nearly vanished).  OR ... should they focus on building influencer/podcaster "empires".
OR even ...
(g) How can we arrange a "Podcast vs AM radio" intervention for RA?

See?  Other than the odd discussion about its possible replacements, not a single mention about AM radio, CHUM nostalgia, numbers like 640 or 1010 (unless you're quoting the time), etc...  Do I love these topics?  Sure I do, but they should only come up every so often, unless we want to rename SOWNY t

SOWNY » Is Anyone Watching Those 24/7 Online Toronto News Stations? » Yesterday 8:19 am

chrishch
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CityNews's new red colour scheme is annoying. Most of their YouTube clips have a fading red line at the bottom which confuses people, especially me... as if I have already started watching those videos when I haven't watched any of them. Maybe that's the point.

SOWNY » Rebel News David Menzies arrested » Yesterday 8:10 am

Glen Warren wrote:

Question: 

When you are in the studio, what is your preferred microphone...  an EV RE20 or a Shure SM-7?

Got an RE20 in my home studio, going into a RØDECaster Pro II board with built-in Aphex processing, and it sounds awesome. Haven't used an SM7 yet.

SOWNY » Bill Maher's Friday HBO Show May Be Strangely Different This Week » Yesterday 8:06 am

paterson1
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Typical Jiminy Glick, cutting the guest and Hollywood down to size.  I always liked the way that he usually answers his own questions and doesn't let the guest respond. I thought it was funny.  Out of touch with modern humour??  Please..Jiminy's style is timeless..

SOWNY » Rebel News David Menzies arrested » Yesterday 7:34 am

Glen Warren
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Question: 

When you are in the studio, what is your preferred microphone...  an EV RE20 or a Shure SM-7?


 

SOWNY » Bill Maher's Friday HBO Show May Be Strangely Different This Week » Yesterday 6:48 am

betaylored
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newsguy1 wrote:

Why did he do this?
I never thought that Jiminy Glick was very funny, as opposed to Martin Short's much better lampoon of Brock Linehan, meant to be Toronto's Brian Linehan.
This routine is just out of touch with modern humour, kind of like it Maher had himself interviewed by Rich Little imitating Johnny Carson.
I'm not exactly a young guy but even I see this is sort of "dad humour."

well said



 

SOWNY » A Canadian team makes the Stanley Cup final » Yesterday 6:38 am

mace
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Some Stanley Cup history for you. IF Florida loses game seven it will be back to back Cup losses for them. That hasn't happened since 1977/78 when the Bruins lost twice to Montreal. Detroit lost twice to the Leafs in 1963/64 and the Leafs went down to Montreal in 1959/60. The last threepeat loser was St. Louis who lost to Montreal twice and Boston once between 1968-70. No team has ever lost four consecutive Cups but the Leafs came close losing six of eight between 1932-40. However, the majority of those losses came before the NHL introduced the best of seven format.

SOWNY » Rebel News David Menzies arrested » Yesterday 5:52 am

mojo55 wrote:

I thought we were going to keep highly sensitive politicsl statements out of this forum

Seconded.

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