1. A one-day virtue signalling session playing CanCon on Canada Day is absolutely not the same thing as being forced to play it every other day.
2. Zoomer is a dead last station that is cross-funded by over regulation on the TV side which requires Bell/Rogers to force subscriptions of Moses' TV channels, basically writing him a cheque every month even though nobody watches OneTV or Vision TV. He uses that money to run 740 as a full-time station even though it would not be profitable in its own right. 
3. If you agree that the industry is dying and "losing touch with listeners" is partly to blame, then that's the same as what I'm saying. Listeners do not play 35% CanCon when they stream music on Apple Music or youtube..... so by forcing stations to play it, you're already spending 35% of your day out-of-touch with the interests of your audience. Let the Canadian consumer dictate what they want to hear. 

Using Canada Day as justification for why CanCon isn't an issue is hilariously cute.... I wonder what you're like in real life P1... maybe you just say these god awful thoughts just to troll me? 

 Who cares?  It's US ratings..Why would anyone in Canada care?  

My point would be that the regulations, cancon or other, have little or nothing to do with speeding up the death of an entire industry.  Most of radio's issues have been brought on themselves with losing touch with listeners, too much automation, music stations not even talking about the music they are playing, and filling airtime with ridiculous breaks like do you order pineapple on your pizza, if you do...call or text now....

Look at today, Zoomer, BOOM, CBC and likely a few others, broadcasting live, talking to people on air (yes some may have been staged) actually interacting with the listener and playing all cancon.  How were the ratings?  Who knows and does it really matter for one day?  But maybe ratings were great..

Just the fact we are talking about all of this is interesting, even though we are all about radio and TV on SOWNY.  How often do we talk about what Zoomer, BOOM, CBC or any others are doing on a typical Tuesday? 

And these stations have been playing 100% of the music that some see no value in and blame for all of radio's shortcomings.     

paterson1 wrote:

Most of what you say I agree with.  Radio does still have influence, but less and less for music, whether it be Canadian or anything else.  Looking at artists and songs that are receiving platinum and even multi platinum recognition is interesting.  Many aren't on commercial radio or have never seen the top 40 charts on OTA radio.

So to say the regs are "forcing music on the public that it has no interest in" is kind of dated and too much a generalization.  We heard many comments like that 50 years ago when radio was king and had a huge influence on music.  That wasn't accurate then and probably still isn't.

So what's your point? Radio has limited influence over consumer taste, and is far from the only way to reach mass audiences these days. CanCon should be abolished and the Canadian consumer will indirectly determine what gets played and what doesn't.... simple as that. Over regulation is speeding up the death of an entire industry 
 

Zoomer has been fascinating musically as well.  Yes, yes I know the ratings...blah blah blah.. But they actually have a bit of an advantage in that they can play tunes more from either end.  Songs from the 50's and 60's and also tunes from into the 2000's.  So BOOM and Zoomer aren't always playing as much of the same music as might have been expected.  Both stations have sounded great all day whenever I listened in.   

Jimmy Swaggart right now.
AAAAAAhhh It burns!!! it burns!!!!

paterson1 wrote:

If the current policy is having little influence on consumer behaviour domestically, likely has more to do with traditional radio and OTA TV just not holding much sway with people like before.  Don't really see that the regs have much to do with that. All we need to do is look at the poor balance sheets and weak ratings of radio and especially television for any proof of this. 
 

Correct; the traditional broadcasters have much, much less influence than they did, and it's mostly not because of Cancon. (Though I'd question where you're seeing that radio has "weak" ratings.)

Radio still has a lot of influence, but in the splintered environment, it can't force through music that the public has no interest in like it used to be able to. The audience is no longer captive, and the media that can keep people's attention are those that can best reflect their taste. No longer can one single platform set the agenda and make the hits. It has to be cross-platform and cross-border.

Radio still has influence, but it can't go it alone, as the regulations assume.

Not to speak ill of the dead, but what a tool.

paterson1 wrote:

 BOOM has been knocking it out of the park today

Also within Stingray, New Country 93.5 ran a "Top 100 Canadian Country" countdown hosted by Terri Clark and Paul Brandt.

RadioActive wrote:

RadioAaron wrote:

RadioActive wrote:

Canada has a thriving music industry and many of its talents are huge stars - from Drake and the Wknd to icons like Neil Young.

Your modern examples are interesting, as Cancon had nothing to do with the success of Drake or The Weeknd...or almost any contemporary artist.
 

But that's my point. It no longer matters where they're from - they're popular enough that listeners want to hear them. The fact they're Canadian is a bonus. I'd like to see the rules removed as a test and measure if future artists still get played. 

Yes. I think any discussion around change has to take into account current effects of the policy. It's doing very little to influence consumer behaviour domestically, and absolutely nothing for break-out success.

The radio station Canadian artists are most excited to have their new music added on? It's Sirius/XM's Canadian channels, as the service has very high royalty rates. It doesn't matter that very few are even listening.

Manipulating consumer behaviour through content regulation absolutely doesn't work. Only direct funding can have an impact.

This seems fitting for today.






PJ

RadioAaron wrote:

RadioActive wrote:

Canada has a thriving music industry and many of its talents are huge stars - from Drake and the Wknd to icons like Neil Young.

Your modern examples are interesting, as Cancon had nothing to do with the success of Drake or The Weeknd...or almost any contemporary artist.
 

But that's my point. It no longer matters where they're from - they're popular enough that listeners want to hear them. The fact they're Canadian is a bonus. I'd like to see the rules removed as a test and measure if future artists still get played. 

Reading Don Henley's comments in the bad song thread makes me believe that the Cancon shlock we are subjected to would just be replaced by worldwide shlock.  It's hard to quantify what percentage would give adequate exposure to Canadian talent.  But if it means less of Nick Guilder's whiny warbling, I am fine with that.  Another Giant 91.7 favourite. 🤨

Which  CTV stations Still have weekend even 6:00 p.m. evening news ? I know Toronto does but I forget the other two that were mentioned to still have it ?