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February 28, 2021 5:26 pm  #31


Re: The Return Of Jim Richards To Bell Talk Network

Hey Google, play WMPL

 

February 28, 2021 10:15 pm  #32


Re: The Return Of Jim Richards To Bell Talk Network

Odds are it'll end up being the Late Showgram with Jim Richards or something like that. 

 

February 28, 2021 10:21 pm  #33


Re: The Return Of Jim Richards To Bell Talk Network

Or they could pull a Joey Reynolds, who used to go on after dark by calling it "The Late Joey Reynolds Show." It's an interesting gag, but it always sounded weird to me. 

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February 28, 2021 11:57 pm  #34


Re: The Return Of Jim Richards To Bell Talk Network

In all the discussions about the who, it's easy to forget the what. What's really unusual about this whole thing is how much airtime a Toronto radio station - any station really - has devoted to promoting a show that runs after midnight, a time period most stations don't much care about. It's a virtual dead zone for advertisers, attracts few listeners and is rarely, if ever, even mentioned on the air.

I hadn't thought about it before, but how strange they gave so much hype to a day part (night part?) that so few are still awake to hear. I can't quite remember anything like that happening before.

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March 1, 2021 1:05 am  #35


Re: The Return Of Jim Richards To Bell Talk Network

The worst kept secret in Toronto radio was officially revealed just after midnight Monday, when Jim Richards took his spot as the new near-national talk show host on several Bell Media stations. He hasn't been on air since the big Bell blowout just under a month ago.

The name of the new show is "The Late Showgram," and it runs five hours.

Ironically, the much vaunted ":01" start time was off, after the Golden Globes ran long, slightly delaying CTV's various news packages. It didn't start until 5 minutes after the hour.

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March 1, 2021 8:06 am  #36


Re: The Return Of Jim Richards To Bell Talk Network

Someone forgot to tell George... https://www.coasttocoastam.com/stations/


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March 1, 2021 8:20 am  #37


Re: The Return Of Jim Richards To Bell Talk Network

Hansa wrote:

Odds are it'll end up being the Late Showgram with Jim Richards or something like that. 

If only I had the same foresight when picking stocks. 
 

 

March 1, 2021 9:03 am  #38


Re: The Return Of Jim Richards To Bell Talk Network

According to the show page it's being carried in St. Catharines, Windsor, London, Ottawa, Kelowna, and Victoria, at least to start with. No Montreal or Vancouver (Vancouver is a BNN branded station but still you'd think Richards would be a better fit for it than George Noory's woo woo radio). 

https://www.iheartradio.ca/newstalk-1010/shows/the-late-showgram-with-jim-richards-1.14645758

 

March 1, 2021 9:35 am  #39


Re: The Return Of Jim Richards To Bell Talk Network

So was it any good? Or more of the same?

 

March 1, 2021 10:02 am  #40


Re: The Return Of Jim Richards To Bell Talk Network

Chrisphen wrote:

So was it any good? Or more of the same?

I recorded the stream for my own listening and will listen to it back today, but what I did hear live had the typical irreverent Jim Richards style - love it or hate it, people tend to be quite polarized on whether that appeals to them. I did catch one segment live with Alan Cross on (pre-taped obviously) talking about some AM radio history which I thought pretty good.

 

March 1, 2021 10:10 am  #41


Re: The Return Of Jim Richards To Bell Talk Network

On the Coast to Coast website it shows a Toronto station that carries the show called   SOUN-FM (null FM ). Does anyone have a clue as to who/ what that station is? It doesn't give a frequency. I must have missed something.https://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons3/cwy.png

 

March 1, 2021 10:31 am  #42


Re: The Return Of Jim Richards To Bell Talk Network

AspectRatio wrote:

Chrisphen wrote:

So was it any good? Or more of the same?

I recorded the stream for my own listening and will listen to it back today, but what I did hear live had the typical irreverent Jim Richards style - love it or hate it, people tend to be quite polarized on whether that appeals to them. I did catch one segment live with Alan Cross on (pre-taped obviously) talking about some AM radio history which I thought pretty good.

Does it strike anyone else as strange that one of the first guests on a Bell Media show was a guy who very publicly works for Corus? Talk about strange bedfellows. 

I can't believe how hard they're hyping this on 'RB. John Moore talked about it every half hour, including playing clips from the show, and so did Jerry Agar. It's on after midnight! No matter how much they like Jim Richards and no matter how hard they tubthump the thing, it's never going to have a huge audience. 

I noted it in a previous post, but I've never heard so much PR given to an overnight radio program. I wonder how long that will continue.  

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March 1, 2021 10:37 am  #43


Re: The Return Of Jim Richards To Bell Talk Network

Norman peters wrote:

On the Coast to Coast website it shows a Toronto station that carries the show called   SOUN-FM (null FM ). Does anyone have a clue as to who/ what that station is? It doesn't give a frequency. I must have missed something.https://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons3/cwy.png

Can't answer your question, although I believe that may be an error on their site. (And as has been previously pointed out, they're still listing all the Bell stations that are no longer clients.)

Far more interesting, though, is what happens to the Canadian rights to Coast to Coast? Does Bell retain them to keep the show away from competitors? (Although, with Corus already having an established overnight show, who else here might have room for it?)

Hey, maybe it will end up on Sauga 960! They seem to have room for everything. 

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March 1, 2021 10:44 am  #44


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RadioActive wrote:

Far more interesting, though, is what happens to the Canadian rights to Coast to Coast? Does Bell retain them to keep the show away from competitors? (Although, with Corus already having an established overnight show, who else here might have room for it?)

Hey, maybe it will end up on Sauga 960! They seem to have room for everything. 

As suggested earlier in this thread, maybe the plan is to toss Coast to Coast on AM 1150 in Hamilton. 

If not, 960 would be a nice fit for it. 


 


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March 1, 2021 10:51 am  #45


Re: The Return Of Jim Richards To Bell Talk Network

Radiowiz wrote:

RadioActive wrote:

Far more interesting, though, is what happens to the Canadian rights to Coast to Coast? Does Bell retain them to keep the show away from competitors? (Although, with Corus already having an established overnight show, who else here might have room for it?)

Hey, maybe it will end up on Sauga 960! They seem to have room for everything. 

As suggested earlier in this thread, maybe the plan is to toss Coast to Coast on AM 1150 in Hamilton. 

If not, 960 would be a nice fit for it. 


 

Sauga 960 carries Spaced Out Radio, a paranormal themed podcast / radio show.

 

March 1, 2021 11:47 am  #46


Re: The Return Of Jim Richards To Bell Talk Network

They've finally put up a page for the show. Although I do have kind of a problem with Jim Richards being described as a "writer, and political commentator." What, exactly, has he written, other than his not-always-so-amusing shtick and one liners that start off his show? And does occasionally criticizing Doug Ford or Justin Trudeau in a joking way qualify you as a political commentator? 

Anyway I wish him luck in the time slot. I've worked a few overnight shifts in the past and it's like tumbling into a deep hole where no one can hear you and you can't quite climb out, a kind of alternate reality. Still, he's done it before at the Fan, so perhaps he's ready to face the drop in audience - although he will have a fair bit of the country to count on for calls if he needs them.

The Late Showgram Page

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March 1, 2021 5:52 pm  #47


Re: The Return Of Jim Richards To Bell Talk Network

RadioActive wrote:

They've finally put up a page for the show. Although I do have kind of a problem with Jim Richards being described as a "writer, and political commentator." What, exactly, has he written, other than his not-always-so-amusing shtick and one liners that start off his show? And does occasionally criticizing Doug Ford or Justin Trudeau in a joking way qualify you as a political commentator?

Yeah, they're really stretching it with the "political commentator" label, although I suppose you could say a "new" meaning of it is folks like Trevor Noah or Stephen Colbert riffing on the day's news and politics with splashes of humor (and not the stuffy "old" image of a political pundit), which Jim (sometimes) does. Perhaps (and being generous) it might also refer to his regular 1010 John Moore morning show roundtable appearances kicking around opinions as well?

Interesting that CJAD 800 Montreal still shows schedule-wise that they're not carrying Jim's show and remaining with "Coast to Coast". Do the decision-makers think Jim's show might not play as well in Quebec? Is it a strategic/rights issue to hang onto the "Coast to Coast" rights and that's a station they've let continue doing it? (By the way, would they lapse if they hold them yet not heard on any stations? i.e. Buying them up and renewing them just to keep them away from competitors? Wonder if there's a clause that rights holder of them MUST broadcast them - somewhere.)

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March 2, 2021 1:08 am  #48


Re: The Return Of Jim Richards To Bell Talk Network

AspectRatio wrote:

Interesting that CJAD 800 Montreal still shows schedule-wise that they're not carrying Jim's show and remaining with "Coast to Coast".

Jim Richards IS on CJAD. I guess they haven't had time to update their website.
 

 

March 2, 2021 6:56 pm  #49


Re: The Return Of Jim Richards To Bell Talk Network

eladb wrote:

Jim Richards IS on CJAD. I guess they haven't had time to update their website.

Thanks, eladb, for giving it a listen and confirming. I see they finally updated their website during the day today to reflect the show. Hmm, I guess when one guts a lot of staff and frantically reorganized/centralized some functions, some things fall by the wayside... who'd have thunk?!

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March 2, 2021 7:32 pm  #50


Re: The Return Of Jim Richards To Bell Talk Network

RadioActive wrote:

Far more interesting, though, is what happens to the Canadian rights to Coast to Coast? Does Bell retain them to keep the show away from competitors? (Although, with Corus already having an established overnight show, who else here might have room for it?)

Hey, maybe it will end up on Sauga 960! They seem to have room for everything. 

Bell is still the Canadian syndicator for the show. They'd have no issue having non-Bell stations run it as they collect some of the ad dollars when they do.


 
 

March 2, 2021 9:07 pm  #51


Re: The Return Of Jim Richards To Bell Talk Network

local issue = insomnia.  then again it could also be a national issue. it reminds me of the double mint gum commercials (back in my day).
it also reminds me of one of comments i made, on this here yellow board, back when he first started at 'rb (doing all nights). i believe i typed; "his show is filled with more ah's than a doctor's office". he's obviously improved since then... but he will have to work on obtaining/creating a lot of content (more than needed during a day shift).

 

March 2, 2021 9:22 pm  #52


Re: The Return Of Jim Richards To Bell Talk Network

I tried to listen to a few minutes of the first show now that the recording is up. Is there something wrong with the speed of the recording or does he always talk that slow? (I guess you don't want fast-talking radio at that time of the night but it was hard to listen to). 

 

March 2, 2021 10:48 pm  #53


Re: The Return Of Jim Richards To Bell Talk Network

By the way, that 5-hour block, is that an "organic", original 5 hours the entire time? I admit I haven't listened as closely as maybe I should, but I could swear Corus's overnight "The Shift" in the Drex-hosted era (and maybe still?) either had a technical producer chopping up the best callers/comedy bits/interviews for an "encore" in the show's last hour, or the local station I was hearing it on just reran the first hour again (thinking a listener wouldn't be awake/around to hear both top of show and this reroll after show's end). I know Jim pre-tapes some segments for guests during more normal daytime hours, but is he live and throwing to those for the entire 5 hour block or is there some repeating of the show within there?

EDIT: Looks like the podcast versions only make available each of the 4 hours (trimmed for commercials/news), so I'm suspecting the 5th hour is a "best of" that night or rerolling one of the hours. When the show was initially promoted by hosts on 1010 they were saying it was "midnight to 4 am".

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March 3, 2021 11:43 am  #54


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AspectRatio wrote:

 

EDIT: Looks like the podcast versions only make available each of the 4 hours (trimmed for commercials/news), so I'm suspecting the 5th hour is a "best of" that night or rerolling one of the hours. When the show was initially promoted by hosts on 1010 they were saying it was "midnight to 4 am".

I think a rerunning the first hour during the last hour is fairly typical for overnight shows. Larry King used to do it when he had his overnight show on Mutual and on TV I remember CBS' overnight news block used to do that in the 80s and 90s. 
 

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March 4, 2021 6:45 pm  #55


Re: The Return Of Jim Richards To Bell Talk Network

I listened last night for a bit. It is nice to have two overnight live shows on that are not talking conspiracy crap.