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July 4, 2025 11:35 am  #1


massive fm skip now...

Biggest opening of the year...

 

July 4, 2025 11:40 am  #2


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Thanks for the head's up! Just got KVOO-FM on 98.5 from Tulsa, Oklahoma. A first for me.

Also KIXQ 102.5 Joplin, Missouri. 

That is some amazing skip!

 

July 4, 2025 12:39 pm  #3


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I was wondering why Julie Nesrallah's 'Tempo' on 94.1 was telling me about some Independence Day gathering in Oklahoma, through the static and interference. 🤔😁

 

July 4, 2025 12:47 pm  #4


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Picked up KRNB from Dallas Fort-Worth on 105.7 very briefly this morning. First for me! Pretty cool!

 

July 4, 2025 12:56 pm  #5


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Also KMGL 104.1 from Oklahoma…

 

July 4, 2025 2:03 pm  #6


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Yep, definitely a lean towards a certain part of the U.S.

Among the catches here in northern North York:

KXRO 107.7 Oklahoma City
KQOB 96.9 Enid, Oklahoma
KRXO 107,7 Oklahoma City
KOBC 90.7 Joplin, Missouri
KJKE 93.3 Oklahoma City
KJMK 93.9 Joplin, Missouri and

What I thought must surely be The Grand turned out to be far grander - KRQV aka Classic Hits 93 at 92.9.

There was a country station identified as Star 104 at 103.9 but I wasn't able to I.D. it. 

It's been a long time since the skip has been that good for me. Unfortunately, I had to take my dog to the vet for a previously scheduled appt. so my time was limited. He ALWAYS comes first, even during good DX days (Dog days?) But it sure was fun while it lasted!

 

July 4, 2025 2:10 pm  #7


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Nice to be able to hear KIXQ-Joplin MO and KKYR-Texarkana TX on 102.5 instead of  Buffalo's K-Hate.

All of the other ones noted by RadioActive were also heard here in 'southern' North York (Hoggs Hollow)

 

July 4, 2025 2:18 pm  #8


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Do these things tend to be tightly geographically limited? Nothing at the cottage here north of Kingston.

 

July 4, 2025 3:22 pm  #9


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RadioActive wrote:

Yep, definitely a lean towards a certain part of the U.S.

Among the catches here in northern North York:

KXRO 107.7 Oklahoma City
KQOB 96.9 Enid, Oklahoma
KRXO 107,7 Oklahoma City
KOBC 90.7 Joplin, Missouri
KJKE 93.3 Oklahoma City
KJMK 93.9 Joplin, Missouri and

What I thought must surely be The Grand turned out to be far grander - KRQV aka Classic Hits 93 at 92.9.

There was a country station identified as Star 104 at 103.9 but I wasn't able to I.D. it. 

It's been a long time since the skip has been that good for me. Unfortunately, I had to take my dog to the vet for a previously scheduled appt. so my time was limited. He ALWAYS comes first, even during good DX days (Dog days?) But it sure was fun while it lasted!

Nice catches. That was the main area.
KOBC 90.7 was one of three stations in my very first E-skip opening ever way back in 1977.
 

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July 4, 2025 3:24 pm  #10


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RadioAaron wrote:

Do these things tend to be tightly geographically limited? Nothing at the cottage here north of Kingston.

Wow!
Can be like that. Bermuda remote SDR had top of band to NB QC and eastern ON (Ottawa area) a few days ago for a few hours and I had nothing at all...not a hint of skip. I;m between Peterborough and Orillia.

I owe you a longer explanation. I'm frankly exhausted from working this opening. I have enough recordings to go through that I needn't worry about spare time for awhile. Just because one does not have any skip does not mean you're outside the cloud. If the end point is in the Atlantic or the Gulf of Mexico or the Caribbean or whatever body of water, and there are no stations to be heard in the 'received' zone, you won't of course hear any. That was probably my case with Bermuda. Picture a cloud very high, signals bouncing off it. That clud is roughly the midway point benween the signal and your radio. A path from N-S will be crossed by one that's E-W. Think of it as a circle of reception. The other factor is recepption generally extends from 400-1500 miles, with slight exceptions where it's very short or very long, or where two clouds line up magically almost and you get two hops and a considerable distance. We'd have to calculate locations and paths to know your situation. I would not have expected you to get nothing in Kingston ... not in this situation. That's a bit odd but not unheard of.
I can engage further on this. Though I'm no expert on the science. I'm not ready to do that right now; this put me behind a few other things.
 

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July 4, 2025 3:32 pm  #11


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In addition to KIXQ Joplin, I also logged on 102.5  KBLS Fort Riley, Ks, and KKCV Rozel, Ks. I also had 102.7 KLDG Liberal, Ks, 102.7 KJYO, Oklahoma City, plus 96.9 KQOB mentioned above. All logged at Coronation Park in Oakville. My DX-286 worked amazingly well. Several of these stations were received in stereo.

 

July 4, 2025 4:45 pm  #12


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I was getting a country station at 97.3 in Kitchener this afternoon. Sound quality wasn't great, but it was definitely crowding out BOOM.

 

July 4, 2025 5:48 pm  #13


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RadioAaron wrote:

Do these things tend to be tightly geographically limited? Nothing at the cottage here north of Kingston.

Nice country for a cottage. Years ago my Union used to put on schools up at Chaffeys Locks. I loved it up there.

It's now 5:45 PM. I only just learned about this opening. I just took my radio out onto the patio here in London. I tuned across the band and there doesn't appear to be anything unusual.
 


After all is said and done, more is usually said than done.
 

July 4, 2025 7:01 pm  #14


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The one thing these skips almost always have in common is it's there for about an hour or so, maybe two if you're lucky - and then it's gone. I came back from the vet and it was already over. 

 

July 4, 2025 8:30 pm  #15


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RadioActive wrote:

The one thing these skips almost always have in common is it's there for about an hour or so, maybe two if you're lucky - and then it's gone. I came back from the vet and it was already over. 

So you had the skip neutered. Thanks a lot!

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July 4, 2025 10:43 pm  #16


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This from Glen Hauser of the World of Radio program.

"** CANADA [and non]. Another huge sporadic E FM DX opening July 4! Already in progress when I join at 1507 UT, constantly until I suspend for lunch and R&R at 1818, and just a little more almost a hour later. At least from: NY, ON, MI, ND, MB, SK. Will take another day at least to fully research and report, approx. 92 discrete log entries including repeats of same stations. DXMAP showed MUF spikes around 150 MHz, and multiple paths across central/eastern US almost solid red! A major nexus around Chicago but does not account for my western Canada catches, Teaser: starts with Fox Sports Radio on 87.7+ MHz, which WTFDA FM DB shows has to be WQSE-LD in Syracuse NY, 2.75 kW, -61 m = below average terrain (Glenn Hauser, OK, WOR)"


After all is said and done, more is usually said than done.
 

Yesterday 5:57 am  #17


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Saul wrote:

RadioAaron wrote:

Do these things tend to be tightly geographically limited? Nothing at the cottage here north of Kingston.

Wow!
Can be like that. Bermuda remote SDR had top of band to NB QC and eastern ON (Ottawa area) a few days ago for a few hours and I had nothing at all...not a hint of skip. I;m between Peterborough and Orillia.

I owe you a longer explanation. I'm frankly exhausted from working this opening. I have enough recordings to go through that I needn't worry about spare time for awhile. Just because one does not have any skip does not mean you're outside the cloud. If the end point is in the Atlantic or the Gulf of Mexico or the Caribbean or whatever body of water, and there are no stations to be heard in the 'received' zone, you won't of course hear any. That was probably my case with Bermuda. Picture a cloud very high, signals bouncing off it. That clud is roughly the midway point benween the signal and your radio. A path from N-S will be crossed by one that's E-W. Think of it as a circle of reception. The other factor is recepption generally extends from 400-1500 miles, with slight exceptions where it's very short or very long, or where two clouds line up magically almost and you get two hops and a considerable distance. We'd have to calculate locations and paths to know your situation. I would not have expected you to get nothing in Kingston ... not in this situation. That's a bit odd but not unheard of.
I can engage further on this. Though I'm no expert on the science. I'm not ready to do that right now; this put me behind a few other things.
 

Really interesting, thanks! I’ve caught things with this radio before (just a Yamaha component system with a wire antenna) and I’m free of buildings, etc. Bit just the usuals at their usual strength.

 

Yesterday 8:19 am  #18


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Had this skip had occurred in the analog days, I suspect we could have received ch 2's from North Platte, Neb. [KNOP] Great Bend, Ks. [KSNC] and Tulsa, Ok [KJRH], ch 3 Wichita, Ks. [KSNW] and ch 4 Oklahoma City [KFOR]

 

Yesterday 9:30 am  #19


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Hams in Texas yesterday reported QSOs with operators all over central and eastern Canada.


After all is said and done, more is usually said than done.
 

Yesterday 11:07 am  #20


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Fascinating. Now I kow why my car FM radio had some second station break through CBC on Friday early PM.

 

Yesterday 11:41 am  #21


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mace wrote:

Had this skip had occurred in the analog days, I suspect we could have received ch 2's from North Platte, Neb. [KNOP] Great Bend, Ks. [KSNC] and Tulsa, Ok [KJRH], ch 3 Wichita, Ks. [KSNW] and ch 4 Oklahoma City [KFOR]

There's a handful of analogs left. Like a handful. One or two in BC on 2 and 3, CITO 3 Timmins, or or two in QC... I haven't DXed TV in years. I know one Niagara area DXer is desperately trying to get BC on double-hop. He had a hint of a carrier there yesterday evening but nothing remotely close to actual audio or video. He had Venezuela twice yesterday on channel 2 analog. (Bill Hepburn, who is responsible for the tropo forecast maps).

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