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paterson1 wrote:
One thing is apparent is that some in the news media don't take criticizm well, especially from those they think aren't qualified to question them. Sadly this is sometimes the public that is questioning and newsmedia tends to overreact when their positions are examined. When this happens automatically you or those questioning are "hard right wing" or extreme, and usually compared to Trump or one of his amateurish and unqualified guppies.
Very true. Also, people tend to dismiss news that they don't like or choose not to believe as "fake news" or "propaganda", even when there's sufficient evidence to back it up.
In this day and age, I believe we should get our information from multiple sources and seek out the information we need, and not just the information we want, as well as being our own fact-checkers.
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RadioActive wrote:
Can't we all agree that there are bad apples in every bunch and stop the partisan divide? They're politicians. They'll say anything to get elected and they're all pretty sketchy if you ask me. Greenbelt scandal? Sponsorship scandal? Gas plants scandal? Party affiliation doesn't seem to dictate morality. Just assume they're all crooks and let it go at that.
It's up to reporters to scope all this out and it's a big "get" for them when they do.
Yup. A politician's job is 1. Get elected and 2. Stay elected. The cost to achieve these goals is of no concern to them.
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The Ford government is the most corrupt in Ontario history. He rode in on his faux “anti-Trump” sentiment, his $200 citizen bribes, and offering his suburban voters red-meat disinformation about how bad the city is. (ie. bike lanes, 401 tunnel) Journalists are supposed to hold politicians- especially shady ones (Therme, Greenbelt, Science Centre, etc) - to account.You saying they are corrupt does not make it so. And the voters obviously didn't agree with your assessment.
Most of the voters in Ontario DIDN'T BOTHER TO VOTE in the last election. So, there's THAT.
That's true, many felt an election wasn't necessary and we don't normally have elections in February. However voting in Ontario and Canada is very easy and if some people are too lazy to vote that is on them. Also if the Liberals or NDP can't even get their "supporters" to it cast a ballot could be that the government isn't the problem.
At least the recent federal election had a more traditional turnout with almost 20 million voting and a turnout of 69.4%. One of the most interesting in a long time and major upset.
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The sad truth is that many voters also seem to be exceptionally stupid. Case in point, there were at least two times I saw on the TV news when some elderly person said that they were voting Conservative because they hated Trudeau. It was for a PROVINCIAL election!
There were also many cases cited online where people blamed Trudeau for the closing down of hospitals and emergency rooms (again, the blame goes to Doug Ford 100% for this, but these voters clearly don't understand what level of government is responsible for what and Ford spent a fair amount of his term blaming all the problems he could on the Feds, his followers aren't exactly the brightest of folk).
I'm sure once Ontario is finished privatizing our health care and the next election comes round, Ford will find some way to blame Carney for that too. And in case, no one was watching the news just two days ago, Ford is handing over $155 million taxpayer dollars to fund 57 more private clinics. You want to know why public healthcare sucks? Elect any right-wing gov and they will defund public health until it hits crisis levels, the public will get mad, and the gov will step in and claim the solution is to build more private clinics. They create the crisis, then offer the fake solution that enriches their donors. OHIP money goes into their pockets instead of back into the public system, and the private clinics get to charge OHIP 2x to 4x times what a public hospital would charge.
So yes, Doug Ford IS a corrupt piece of garbage. He's not in it for you.
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But RA, it's every day with Southern. He's entirely predictable. If you have a memory and are paying attention you know exactly where he's going with the details. I'm on the channel selector as soon as I hear "for more on the story here's Richard Southern".
What bothers me most about Southern's reporting is he often inserts himself into the story... it's always about HIM. If southern is still around when there's a different government in power, it'll be interesting to see if his aggressive tactics continue. Somehow I doubt it... but willing to be pleasantly surprised.
When it comes to bias, CityNews is terrible (worse than CBC IMO). A recent example form their Kitchener outlet.During the recent Federal election campaign, Mark Carney held a rally. CityNews sent a reporter out the the event (they rarely send reporters out to anything anymore), covered the event with audio, interviews the whole bit. When introducing that story the following morning, the anchor (Mark Douglas) said "Mark Carney was in town last night and supporters were hanging on his every word". Contrast that to the following week when Pierre Poilievre held a rally. No reporter on site, only coverage was airing Kevin Misener's generic report about where the leaders were last night. And no flattering introduction when the report came on.
When people talk about media bias, this is exactly the sort of stuff they're talking about. Two identical stories covered very differently, the only differing factor seems to be the political spectrum.
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What reporter would bother with Pierre Poilievre? He limits what questions you can ask him, insults the reporter if they dare to question a policy that he is championing, and primarily gives his attention to far-right wing outlets like Rebel News which are guaranteed to give him favorable coverage. He doesn't deserve "flattering" coverage because he acts like an ass and done nothing for his constituents for 20 years, which is why they booted him out of there.
If anything I found CTV to be very right-winged bias during the election coverage. They never once raised the serious issue of why PP refuses to get his security clearance at a time when we've seen election interference from India (which it was already confirmed participated to help him win the leadership race) and China. A compromised PM who owes his position of power to a foreign nation that is murdering Canadian citizens was a serious concern.
You know why? Because the CONS had a lot of ad money to spend, and CTV was catering to them heavily to get those dollars (hmmm, wondering where all that money came from...). That's your bias right there. We're lucky Carney won and not that hate-mongering twit.
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It's like we've locked into a self-perpetuating cycle. PP doesn't think he'll get a fair shake from the mainstream so he tends to ignore them, which induces the mainstream to tend to ignore him right back. Lather, rinse, repeat.
On security clearance - I feel it should be a requirement to be the leader of a national party. How is it not?
Got elected? Congrats, now fill out these forms for CSIS.
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Can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. Peepee was looking to score PR points; or perhaps there were demons to be uncovered. Anyhow, and the endpoint was failure. Peepee et al screwed up because they behaved like outsiders when the majority of Cdns were looking for a leader to deal with Trump. Ford figured out how to run successfully in Ontario by seeming able to do that.