Binson Echorec wrote:

RadioAaron wrote:

Binson Echorec wrote:

I'm genuinely curious to know what you expected to hear other than static/dead air. The station ceased operations, I'd expect nothing but static.
 

They're talking about the static on 95.3 HD3, which is rather odd.

I'll take your word for it, I don't have HD radio. But if that was the subchannel dedicated to CHML and CHML no longer exists, what else would be there other than static?

There's no such thing as static on HD. It would either be silent or off. So it's actually re-broadcasting static.

It's starting to look like HD could become the next AM Stereo (not in a good way). In the U.S. they are now testing radio over ATSC 3.0 UHF signals. 

https://www.radioworld.com/columns-and-views/guest-commentaries/atsc-3-0-audio-services-the-how-and-why

On paper it appears that the coverage of the Michigan test beats all of the HD signals. WOMC-HD-1 and 2 breaks up in Sarnia as you drive. I have heard WOMC's standard FM broadcast in the London area many times. 

mace wrote:

Marc1178 wrote:

It's starting to look like HD could become the next AM Stereo (not in a good way). In the U.S. they are now testing radio over ATSC 3.0 UHF signals. 

https://www.radioworld.com/columns-and-views/guest-commentaries/atsc-3-0-audio-services-the-how-and-why

On paper it appears that the coverage of the Michigan test beats all of the HD signals. WOMC-HD-1 and 2 breaks up in Sarnia as you drive. I have heard WOMC's standard FM broadcast in the London area many times. 

At 190,000 watts, I can see why WOMC could be heard in London.

Same with Erie’s 103.7 signal. Except it is at 50,000 watts. Another example as well is WQLN 91.3 from Erie.

mace wrote:

Marc1178 wrote:

It's starting to look like HD could become the next AM Stereo (not in a good way). In the U.S. they are now testing radio over ATSC 3.0 UHF signals. 

https://www.radioworld.com/columns-and-views/guest-commentaries/atsc-3-0-audio-services-the-how-and-why

On paper it appears that the coverage of the Michigan test beats all of the HD signals. WOMC-HD-1 and 2 breaks up in Sarnia as you drive. I have heard WOMC's standard FM broadcast in the London area many times. 

At 190,000 watts, I can see why WOMC could be heard in London.

If band conditions are favorable it is not unusual to receive WOMC in London, unfortunately their 190 kw is on a relatively short tower which limits the signal's distant range. You can to some extent increase power to make up for a shorter tower but height still gives you the long distance range.
 

haydenmatthews14 wrote:

I know I picked up a station from Rochester last summer on 97.9 which was rare.

98 PXY (WPXY-FM)

mace wrote:

haydenmatthews14 wrote:

mace wrote:

I am not overly familiar with the Erie radio market. Are 91.3 and 103.7 the only FM's that can be heard in London on a regular basis? 103.7 gets into the GTA under tropo conditions and I once got a Country station on 98.9 mixed with Rochester.

91.3 and 103.7 are the 2 FM's that can be heard in London under clear conditions. Sometimes the Detroit/Windsor stations can overtake the Erie stations such as 93.9 and 97.9. I know I picked up a station from Rochester last summer on 97.9 which was rare.

Oops! That was a typo. I meant 98.9. The Buzz was mixed with the Erie Country station. I have only heard PXY in the GTA once or twice and that was due to exceptional tropo conditions.

I heard 100.5 WDVI in the GTA also from Rochester NY which was an Hot AC station before flipping to Country sometime ago.

Paul Jeffries wrote:

Oddly coincidental that CHML "went dark" on the 21st anniversary of the big blackout.



PJ

And it's situations like the blackout trhat make local radio so important. The day of the blackout I was listening to CBC Radio I. But their local London program was unavailable and we were getting the feed fro Radio I in Toronto.
 

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MJ Vancouver wrote:

turkeytop wrote:

Paul Jeffries wrote:

Oddly coincidental that CHML "went dark" on the 21st anniversary of the big blackout.



PJ

And it's situations like the blackout trhat make local radio so important. The day of the blackout I was listening to CBC Radio I. But their local London program was unavailable and we were getting the feed fro Radio I in Toronto.
 

CBC Radio in London aired local Toronto programming outside of the Ontario Morning slot prior to 2015. We always got Here & Now.

Oops. My bad. Are you in London too? We have Vancouver Street right near our home.
 

mace wrote:

When I was out in Oakville earlier this week, there was no static on 900 and I heard muffled pulsating voices on the frequency. Unfortunately, not strong enough to identify. Has anything appeared at night?

From Kawarthas I have heard IDs from three: WABY Watervliet NY (Rock-pop); WKDA Franklin TN (adult standards), WURD (African American talk, possibly also the one with jazz. I haven't set up my outdoor antennas yet for the coming AM season, or done any serious listening. These just from quick moments on a portable. One London DXer also heard a Georgia African American gospel station. With CHIN running daytime only on 1540 at night, a few of have heard ZNS1 from Nassau Bahamas. Last night they were running African American gospel music.

RadioAaron wrote:

Binson Echorec wrote:

RadioAaron wrote:

They're talking about the static on 95.3 HD3, which is rather odd.

I'll take your word for it, I don't have HD radio. But if that was the subchannel dedicated to CHML and CHML no longer exists, what else would be there other than static?

There's no such thing as static on HD. It would either be silent or off. So it's actually re-broadcasting static.

HD3 has finally been shut off, saving Corus a few pennies on hydro. Drove past the antenna site last week and the towers were still up. 900 CHML signage us still in place at the studio but interestingly, the 95.3 signage is gone. Did Corus move them somewhere else? So how long does Corus hold that space for only one station? Or is Y108 being co-sited somewhere else?

homewithbrian wrote:

From what I know, 95.3 is fully out of Corus Quay now with exception of one DJ working from home in Hamilton. Y108 is moving to the London building, again with one DJ working from home in Hamilton (having the two working from home in Hamilton is apparently enough for the CRTC).

CRTC doesn't mandate a local/studio presence at all, instead they mandate that (in order to accept local advertising $) 1/3rd of your broadcast week be local programming (that is... programming can't air on two stations and count as local on both). Hamilton WFH staff probably just prefer to do so, since they live there.