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August 14, 2024 6:03 pm  #31


Re: 900 CHML Closing

I am surprised that CHCH has not posted anything about the shutdown of 900 CHML on their website yet. Will they mention on their 6PM newscast?

But they posted this: https://www.chch.com/rogers-says-corus-business-model-broken-after-being-accused-of-predatory-action/

Last edited by haydenmatthews14 (August 14, 2024 6:03 pm)

 

August 14, 2024 6:22 pm  #32


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The CHML closure was the lead item on CHCH at 6...
The website is typically updated later in the evening... so the story will most likely be on the interwebs after 8pm....
 

 

August 14, 2024 6:29 pm  #33


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In addition to the CHML radio closure, CORUS is also making further cost cutting  /streamlining announcements today...  Voluntary packages are being offered (read... you should strongly consider) to long term employees on the TV side.....   so far, a couple of people in Toronto at Barber Greene, and about a dozen positions out west at Global BC.

 

 

August 14, 2024 7:14 pm  #35


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"This video contains the final complete radio newscasts at 9 AM and 9:30 AM on CHML, and its official (brief) sign-off."


 

Last edited by Hansa (August 14, 2024 7:15 pm)

 

August 14, 2024 8:31 pm  #36


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Someone messed up on one part of the story about the layoffs at London’s 980 CFPL. It said “900 CFPL” instead of 980.

 

August 14, 2024 8:37 pm  #37


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Joe Warmington did a very touching tribute in today's Toronto Sun.  Personalities I fondly remember at CHML were Paul Hanover, Norm Marshall, Perc Allen, Bob Bratina, Tom Cherington and Gordie Tapp.  In terms of status, CHML was Hamilton's version of what CFRB used to be in Toronto a full service station with outstanding news & sports. During radio's golden years CHML was affiliated with CBC's Dominion network carrying a wide variety. of Canadian and U.S. programming. As an old time radio buff it is indeed very sad to see an iconic station go silent.

 

August 14, 2024 8:48 pm  #38


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haydenmatthews14 wrote:

I am surprised that CHCH has not posted anything about the shutdown of 900 CHML on their website yet. Will they mention on their 6PM newscast?

Indeed, they did have it on their 6. 

Their report contains one interesting detail that was not otherwise announced - the staff of the morning show was not told about the station closing until they'd completed their shift for the day. They had no chance to say goodbye. And in an absolutely low class move that seems to characterize much of what Corus does these days, some found out they were out of a job through social media. 

You can watch the report here.

 

August 14, 2024 9:00 pm  #39


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CHML wasn't always on 900, as this listing from 1939 proves. Notice also where CKOC was located on the dial.



CHML also wanted a TV station, but since Hamilton was assigned to get only one - and the CBC had dibs on it - government regulators turned them down. From 1948:



You have to wonder if this deal, announced in March 1970, would have saved CHML - although considering what Bell did to the other stations in town, the answer would probably have been no. (Not to mention we might have had a Channel 13 here. What would that have meant for Kitchener?)

 

August 14, 2024 9:53 pm  #40


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The combined population of both Hamilton and the Halton Region can support at least one Talk radio station of its own. This is especially true when you consider that CBC Radio One comes from Toronto rather than a from a local studio. When you call a Hamilton radio station Global News Radio in addition to 640 from Toronto, and air too much of syndicated programming on top of that, this is to be expected. I am now interested in seeing how either 820 or 1150 will react to this format hole. 

 

August 14, 2024 10:11 pm  #41


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Marc1178 wrote:

The combined population of both Hamilton and the Halton Region can support at least one Talk radio station of its own. This is especially true when you consider that CBC Radio One comes from Toronto rather than a from a local studio. When you call a Hamilton radio station Global News Radio in addition to 640 from Toronto, and air too much of syndicated programming on top of that, this is to be expected. I am now interested in seeing how either 820 or 1150 will react to this format hole. 

They cannot.

Even the biggest markets cannot support a talk station without the efficiencies of an FM or two providing the revenue - especially as a startup.

In fact, the demise of CHML might actually be *bad* news for 820/1150, unless they can sign on ASAP, as CHML listeners will be less likely to be punching around their AM presets or hitting 'seek' on the band.

 

August 15, 2024 12:02 am  #42


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I've mentioned before that my sister lives in Staten Island, N.Y. She's not a radio-obsessive like her brother (i.e. yours truly) but I do recall a conversation several years ago when she told me she could really only get three stations from back home clearly where she lives - AM 740, which she occasionally listens to despite spill from WABC and WJR, CJBC, which no one listens to but is impossible to get away from, and 900 CHML. 

She even liked some of the latter's programming and would turn it on occasionally at night. I wonder what she'll say when I tell her the next time, she's likely to get nothing but permanent static. 

 

August 15, 2024 6:39 am  #43


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Not a word on AM640 about what has become a fairly big story everywhere else. But a vacationing Hamilton native and station host Alex Pierson has weighed in. 

 

August 15, 2024 6:49 am  #44


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Joe Warmington of the Toronto Sun notes the powers-that-be could not have handled this worse.

"On air-talent were preparing their shows and had no inkling. Afternoon host Scott Thompson waited until his scheduled 3 p.m. show start time to post to X: “It has been an incredible 40-year run. It was an honour to be part of the legendary CHML and its service to the great people of Hamilton.”  

None of the hosts were given a chance to say farewell to their loyal audiences and their audiences did not have the opportunity to say goodbye to them.  

It doesn’t get any more cold, callous, crass and corporate."


He also notes the void this will leave in the market. While CKOC and CHAM are still around, they're basically on auto-pilot. Other than a few traffic updates in drivetime, there's no news or info on anything happening in the Steel City. And while some FMs survive, I doubt they will take the place of a fulltime information station when it comes to things like snowstorms or goings on at City Hall. 

The Spectator survives - barely - but you can't take that with you in your car and you need a subscription. And that's why the loss for the city is so profound and being felt so heavily, even for those who were only occasional listeners. 

Hamilton's beloved CHML 900 radio goes silent without notice

 

August 15, 2024 6:59 am  #45


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Alan Cross, who once worked in the same building as CHML when he was PD at Y108, calls it a sad sign of the times for radio.

A sad moment in Canadian radio: 900 CHML shuts down 

 

August 15, 2024 7:59 am  #46


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Centerline wrote:

Announced on twitter, seems to effective immediately

900 CHML was going downhill ever since Lee Marshall died
 

 

August 15, 2024 8:57 am  #47


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RadioActive wrote:

He also notes the void this will leave in the market. While CKOC and CHAM are still around, they're basically on auto-pilot. Other than a few traffic updates in drivetime, there's no news or info on anything happening in the Steel City.

And keep in mind that those traffic reports come from Markham, at the company I used to work at.

I really want to miss having been in radio, but had I stayed, it's amazing how much has change I might've been witness to, even since I left in April 2023.

I'm very sad to see CHML disappear, however, all of the people I remembered hearing are LONG gone.  I enjoyed Bob Hooper's morning newscasts, Bill Stirrup on the weekend, Bill Kelly talking with Marvin Ryder over business topics, and Sandy Bishop in the mornings.  Lately, it was largely 640 CHML Toronto (with all the networked stuff), so what I really miss are mostly past CHML memories; however, that's the case with most radio, as I now see it.


Cheers,
Jody Thornton
 
 

August 15, 2024 9:24 am  #48


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AM radio these days, and to some extent even FM - It's kind of like the grandeur of the theatre closed years ago, but the buildings are still open...
 

 

August 15, 2024 9:30 am  #49


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Saul wrote:

AM radio these days, and to some extent even FM - It's kind of like the grandeur of the theatre closed years ago, but the buildings are still open...
 

Well put


Cheers,
Jody Thornton
 
 

August 15, 2024 10:10 am  #50


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Today, August 15th, is the 80th anniversary of the day CKNW in Vancouver first went on the air. (The official sign-on wasn't until September, but they started test transmissions on this day in 1944.) How ironic it happens at a Corus station the day after they turned off the transmitter of a place that would have turned 97 next month. 

Given everything this company has done lately, you have to wonder: Will CKNW live to celebrate 81?

 

August 15, 2024 1:48 pm  #51


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RadioActive wrote:

Today, August 15th, is the 80th anniversary of the day CKNW in Vancouver first went on the air. (The official sign-on wasn't until September, but they started test transmissions on this day in 1944.) How ironic it happens at a Corus station the day after they turned off the transmitter of a place that would have turned 97 next month. 

Given everything this company has done lately, you have to wonder: Will CKNW live to celebrate 81?

Ironic, yes. Did it matter? No.

 

August 15, 2024 2:17 pm  #52


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These aren't radiophiles running the stations. It's a business decision (regardless of actual merit or briliance or incompetence or whatever). The station is a product. Pure and simple.

Last edited by Saul (August 15, 2024 2:20 pm)

 

August 15, 2024 5:48 pm  #53


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RadioActive wrote:

Today, August 15th, is the 80th anniversary of the day CKNW in Vancouver first went on the air. (The official sign-on wasn't until September, but they started test transmissions on this day in 1944.) How ironic it happens at a Corus station the day after they turned off the transmitter of a place that would have turned 97 next month. 

Given everything this company has done lately, you have to wonder: Will CKNW live to celebrate 81?

From Global News:

News radio ‘Top Dog’ CKNW celebrates 80 years on the air

Also from The Daily Hive:

How a Vancouver talk station is defying "radio is dead" notion as it turns 80


 

 

August 15, 2024 6:32 pm  #54


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I'll miss 'Canada History X', which I went to on weekends to escape the non-stop paid air time for fancy coloured diamonds, disability rights and wrongful dismissal advice.

 

August 15, 2024 8:05 pm  #55


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I'll miss the local traffic report because 680's "busy from Ford Drive to Nicola Tesla Blvd" doesn't cut it. That's 35 kms! , busy to them really means it is crawling (and that exit will forever be Burlington Street to me).

 

August 15, 2024 8:22 pm  #56


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67GreenRambler wrote:

I'll miss the local traffic report because 680's "busy from Ford Drive to Nicola Tesla Blvd" doesn't cut it. That's 35 kms! , busy to them really means it is crawling (and that exit will forever be Burlington Street to me).

The closure of CHML gives somewhat of an opportunity for 820/1150. I wonder if Neeti Ray can afford some of the more listened-to local elements of CHML, and *perhaps* combine it either with a talk station or oldies. I can't see country, given 94.7. He needs to move soon and in a very decided, focused kind of way. I imagine the 900 transmitter site is more valuable as real estate...

 

August 15, 2024 8:22 pm  #57


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August 15, 2024 8:23 pm  #58


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I find this headline in The Bay Observer a little hard to accept. 

Corus Radio division showing a profit despite CHML closure

 

August 15, 2024 8:25 pm  #59


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Walter wrote:

I'll miss 'Canada History X', which I went to on weekends to escape the non-stop paid air time for fancy coloured diamonds, disability rights and wrongful dismissal advice.

You can still escape here, whenever you want.

 

August 15, 2024 8:28 pm  #60


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RadioActive wrote:

I find this headline in The Bay Observer a little hard to accept. 

Corus Radio division showing a profit despite CHML closure

A profit of $8 million for the entire radio division is nothing. A bad book at CFOX could cut that in half.

The company overall is losing money, so they have to kill unprofitable products.