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July 14, 2026 8:45 am  #1


John Tory Goes Back To The Future

I'm not exactly sure why John Tory has been constantly translating Celsius back into Fahrenheit all morning in talking about our record breaking temps., but he's been doing it since he signed on at 6 AM. 

When I was doing graphics for TV in the early days of C and F, we had to put up both and so I committed the differences to memory, without any math. But I have slightly younger friends who were brought up totally in the metric system era and if I say it's going to be close to 100 tomorrow, they look at me like I'm speaking Swahili. 

I know CFRB's audience skews older, but I'm sure this is lost on many of them.

I do remember when it first came in and was mandated by the government for TV and radio stations to give the readings in "the other scale." For the first year or so, we gave it in both, then gradually stopped as people got used to it. I think the last hanger-on to the dual readings was CKLW, which back then was still the Big 8. Because they had such a large cross-border audience, they were forced to say, "It's 20 degrees in Windsor, 68 in Detroit." I don't think they do that anymore.

I still recall the beginning of all this and they couldn't have picked a worse day - April 1, 1975.

Yep, April Fool's Day and in the beginning associating metric with a day for fooling people could not have seemed more appropriate. Anyone recall those early first months? It was a bit chaotic. 

And of course, CFRB was front and centre on the battle for change, because one notorious member of its staff refused to acknowledge Celsius at all. His name probably won't surprise you

 

July 14, 2026 8:53 am  #2


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I noticed that Tory was doing that as well and I don’t think he did that yesterday. I have used Celsius all my life and I’m no spring chicken but this was a bit odd this morning. I wonder if his producer will talk to him about it. Stay tuned!

 

July 14, 2026 12:14 pm  #3


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When I first came to Canada in 1991, radio newscasts would say the temperature in both Celsius and Fahrenheit all the time. I can't even remember when that practice was dropped altogether.

 

July 14, 2026 12:45 pm  #4


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eladb wrote:

When I first came to Canada in 1991, radio newscasts would say the temperature in both Celsius and Fahrenheit all the time. I can't even remember when that practice was dropped altogether.

In my high school years (late '90s/early 2000s), there were still some jocks and newsies in Peterborough and Lindsay regularly using both scales, and one host on CKLY once referred to the Fahrenheit scale as "real degrees".

Last edited by bmaudioworks (July 14, 2026 12:45 pm)

 

September 5, 2026 1:39 pm  #6


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Actually on April 1st 1975 broadcasters were not mandated by government to begin using celsius.  Almost all did include the new temperatures at that time since this was the first official day of Canada's start of converting to the metric system.  However broadcaster were not mandated to do so.  Most just did.

Working in Thunder Bay at CKPR for two and a half years beginning in the spring of 1977, never did you hear a temperature in celsius.  The owner said there was nothing that the government mandated that said that radio or TV stations had to include celsius.  I believe CKPR did begin sometime in the early 80's.  This could have been because of complaints from listeners.  We would get calls from listeners in the late 70's inquiring why we never gave any temperatures in "metric" when the other radio stations in town did. 

 

September 5, 2026 6:00 pm  #7


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paterson1 wrote:

Actually on April 1st 1975 broadcasters were not mandated by government to begin using celsius.  Almost all did include the new temperatures at that time since this was the first official day of Canada's start of converting to the metric system.  However broadcaster were not mandated to do so.  Most just did.

Working in Thunder Bay at CKPR for two and a half years beginning in the spring of 1977, never did you hear a temperature in celsius.  The owner said there was nothing that the government mandated that said that radio or TV stations had to include celsius.  I believe CKPR did begin sometime in the early 80's.  This could have been because of complaints from listeners.  We would get calls from listeners in the late 70's inquiring why we never gave any temperatures in "metric" when the other radio stations in town did. 

I may have been one of those listeners.
 

 

September 5, 2026 7:36 pm  #8


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RadioActive wrote:

I'm not exactly sure why John Tory has been constantly translating Celsius back into Fahrenheit all morning in talking about our record breaking temps., but he's been doing it since he signed on at 6 AM. 

When I was doing graphics for TV in the early days of C and F, we had to put up both and so I committed the differences to memory, without any math. But I have slightly younger friends who were brought up totally in the metric system era and if I say it's going to be close to 100 tomorrow, they look at me like I'm speaking Swahili. 

I know CFRB's audience skews older, but I'm sure this is lost on many of them.

I'm 58 and was in elementary school when Metric conversion was underway. Fahrenheit is meaningless to me and to almost everyone under 60 unless they're from or spent considerable time in the US.

As an aside, one of my pet peeves is that many grocery stores mark some produce and fresh meat and fish in Imperial and other in Metric making comparison shopping a chore without an app or calculator. I really wish the government would require Metric labeling for all foodstuffs (fine if they want to use both systems but at least have metric on the sign as well as pounds and Oz.

 

Yesterday 3:12 am  #9


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The grocery store where I work, there is nothing metric priced. Everything is priced by the lb. The owner is old school I talian and the majority of his customers [older] prefer Imperial pricing. As for the rest of the metric system, I have converted the temperatures to memory. Snow? 2.5 cm = 1 inch. 5-10 cm = 2-4 inches. 30 cm= one foot. I'm good. Because I'm a beer drinker I know 28 ml = 1 oz. Distance I can easily calculate mentally. When terms like hectares and kilopascals get thrown around my eyes glaze over.