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The U.S. Senate sat late into the middle of the night Thursday to pass a bill that terminates funding for Public Television and Radio. It's still needs to pass in the House, but it's expected to get through.
This is a devastating blow to stations like WNED and WBFO, which depended on government funds to help keep them going. So what happens if - and it seems, when - this becomes the law of the land and what will happen to all those TV and radio stations in the U.S.?
Things seems pretty dire with such a major and sudden, although sadly not completely unexpected, funding slash, and there are predictions some won't survive.
"Public media executives say some smaller broadcasters will be forced off the air in the months and years to come. That’s because stations in rural areas and smaller communities tend to rely more heavily on the federal subsidy. Stations in larger markets typically have a wider variety of other funding sources, like viewer donations and foundation support."
And what of WNED? Is Buffalo a large enough market for them to keep going? Hard to say, but they, as well as Detroit and Seattle, do have one advantage many others in the U.S. don't - there are a ton of Canadian members that contribute to the stations. Whether that will be enough to let them continue on as before remains to be seen.
If, that is, there's anything left to be seen at all.
Trump’s victory over PBS and NPR ‘bias’ will be ‘devastating’ for rural areas, station leaders say
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In the 70s and 80s, high-brow cultural, intellectual, and science programs as well as financial programs such as Wall Street Week and some conservative shows such as Firing Line with William F. Buckley were sufficient for PBS to earn enough support form Brahmin Republicans to stave off cuts but with the dumbing down of culture generally and the populist revolution in the Republican Party, PBS/NPR no longer has that cushion. (As well as the fact you no longer need PBS to access cultural, science, or financial programming).
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Well, here's something I didn't know (one of many things, I'll admit!) Apparently Joan Kroc, widow of the founder of the McDonald's restaurant chain, left some $200 million to National Public Radio in her will - and because of government funding, that bounty has apparently never been touched. It's believed they could now turn to that money and the interest it's generated to keep NPR solvent during the Trump-cut era.
That's the good news. The bad is that may not help some smaller local stations in less affluent areas.
So how can they stay on the air? The article below suggests some intriguing solutions about the survival of the stations, with several different approaches, including one aimed squarely at Baby Boomers.
There are, broadly speaking, two ways to try to get by without federal support. One is to become much more commercial, and the other is to become much less commercial.
The "much more commercial" strategy is easier to envision because it's what most public broadcasters have been doing already for years. An underwriting announcement is basically a more genteel advertisement, and those boomer-music marathons on PBS are as brazen a case of chasing an affluent demographic as anything on network TV. So one path would be to lean into this approach and air more of the programming that brings in the most dollars."
How To Keep Your Radio Station Going When the Government's Checks Don't Come
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A WNED Press Release:
Buffalo Toronto Public Media's Commitment to Canada
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This is kind of amusing. WNED talking about all the cancon they feature and some even produced by the station. Detroit PBS pretty much ignores Canada from what I have noticed. I have never heard them refer to Ontario in any of their viewership pledge drives. Mind you I don't usually watch these 20 minute commercials for more than about two minutes.
I wonder if money from Canada is starting to become a little harder to raise, what with the tensions between Canada and the US, and some Canadians avoiding things American. Could be a double whammy for PBS stations that rely on Canadian donations.
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This move will cripple NPR. But, if it doesn't kill it, the right will find another way to attack it.
When we're in Florida every year, I always make a contribution to WUSF our local affiliate there. Looks like I may have to step up my giving.
If word gets out they're being funded by a foreign socialist he MAGA crowd would make hay with that.
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paterson1 wrote:
This is kind of amusing. WNED talking about all the cancon they feature and some even produced by the station. Detroit PBS pretty much ignores Canada from what I have noticed. I have never heard them refer to Ontario in any of their viewership pledge drives. Mind you I don't usually watch these 20 minute commercials for more than about two minutes.
I wonder if money from Canada is starting to become a little harder to raise, what with the tensions between Canada and the US, and some Canadians avoiding things American. Could be a double whammy for PBS stations that rely on Canadian donations.
One thing WNED has always done is accept Canadian money at par. I would expect that to continue, further encouraging people here to give. Not sure how many know Channel 17 actually has a Toronto office. It's located at 130 Queen's Quay East. Very unusual for a Buffalo station to have an HQ here.
I don't get WTVS, but I'm surprised to hear you say they don't seem to care about their Canadian audience, since that station goes out via satellite all over the place here and can reach a cable audience with money to donate all across the country. They're foolish if they don't pay attention to that potential for fundraising.
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Is channel 54 still on-air in Erie? I can't remember it's calls by memory, but we used to get it with fuzzy reception, when we lived near Cayuga. I wonder if they also bid for Canadian donations.
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It was/is WQLN and I used to get them on occasion in North York back in the analogue days. Came in pretty good when the conditions were right.
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If they aren't fully finished by this administrative action, the current ruling regime of what is now the United States will likely criminalise them.
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Chrisphen wrote:
If they aren't fully finished by this administrative action, the current ruling regime of what is now the United States will likely criminalise them.
I agree with what you say, but for the name of the country. It's now the Dis-United States of America and it's a bloody shame what one lunatic can do.
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Jody Thornton wrote:
Is channel 54 still on-air in Erie? I can't remember it's calls by memory, but we used to get it with fuzzy reception, when we lived near Cayuga. I wonder if they also bid for Canadian donations.
The donation form on WQLN's homepage DOES take donations from Canada; I don't know if it's at par.
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Dial Twister wrote:
I agree with what you say, but for the name of the country. It's now the Dis-United States of America and it's a bloody shame what one lunatic can do.
I saw Henry Rollins in June 2022. He made a point of dropping the word "United" and referred to his homeland as the "States of America".
I agreed with him then, and still would today.
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RadioActive wrote:
paterson1 wrote:
This is kind of amusing. WNED talking about all the cancon they feature and some even produced by the station. Detroit PBS pretty much ignores Canada from what I have noticed. I have never heard them refer to Ontario in any of their viewership pledge drives. Mind you I don't usually watch these 20 minute commercials for more than about two minutes.
I wonder if money from Canada is starting to become a little harder to raise, what with the tensions between Canada and the US, and some Canadians avoiding things American. Could be a double whammy for PBS stations that rely on Canadian donations.
One thing WNED has always done is accept Canadian money at par. I would expect that to continue, further encouraging people here to give. Not sure how many know Channel 17 actually has a Toronto office. It's located at 130 Queen's Quay East. Very unusual for a Buffalo station to have an HQ here.
I don't get WTVS, but I'm surprised to hear you say they don't seem to care about their Canadian audience, since that station goes out via satellite all over the place here and can reach a cable audience with money to donate all across the country. They're foolish if they don't pay attention to that potential for fundraising.
Well I don't think WNED has much choice than to accept Canadian money at par. If the rumours that it is the Canadian dollars that keeps the station successful are true, then I guess they would do that.
WNED knows they are lucky to have over 10 million people sitting across the border so they aren't going to do anything to complicate the fundraising from the golden goose, which has ten times the population of their home base. Didn't know the Toronto office was considered a headquarters.
I didn't mean to imply that PBS Detroit doesn't care about the Canadian audience, it's just that they don't acknowledge them much or at all that I have seen, even on pledge breaks. Unlike WNED all of their local programming is Detroit/Michigan oriented. They may have had some Canadian focused local programming in the past, but I have never seen any. They do feature some Canadian kids shows during the day produced by TVO and CBC, but all PBS stations do this. I am not a big PBS viewer.
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ckg927 wrote:
Jody Thornton wrote:
Is channel 54 still on-air in Erie? I can't remember it's calls by memory, but we used to get it with fuzzy reception, when we lived near Cayuga. I wonder if they also bid for Canadian donations.
The donation form on WQLN's homepage DOES take donations from Canada; I don't know if it's at par.
Why would we care if it's at par? $50C if that's all we're giving, they can count it any way they want.
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turkeytop wrote:
Why would we care if it's at par? $50C if that's all we're giving, they can count it any way they want.
Because they often give thank you prizes based on dollar amounts donated.
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Dial Twister wrote:
turkeytop wrote:
Why would we care if it's at par? $50C if that's all we're giving, they can count it any way they want.
Because they often give thank you prizes based on dollar amounts donated.
I wonder if many of the prizes and thank you gifts are donated as well. This is often the case with fundraisers.
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How To Save NPR And PBS
1) During Pledge Week/Month/Year reanimate Mike and Goldie’s corpses.
2) Lean into Elmo’s newfound social media status as a Far Right Extremist Influencer to appeal to the untapped resources found on that side. It’s worked for Andrew Tate and Count Dankula, why not own it?
3) Reach one hundred million dollars during one Pledge Break and we’ll shoot whoever is cutting Ken Burns’ hair live and on camera.
4) NPR has lost the rural listeners so pivot to the urrrrrban audience. Change from NPR to NWA. Car Talk? Boost That Ride! All Things Considered? All Things Considered Why Dontcha Shut Yo Mouf! Fresh Air with Terry Gross? Fresh Beats with Dr. Dre!
5) The Late Show with Stephen Colbert.
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Several years ago I paid for a one year membership to WNED only because they were offering a prize that interested me. I received a dvd on the history of local Buffalo television. Great footage of Rocketship 7, Dialing For Dollars, Commander Tom, Meet The Millers, Bowling for Dollars, Strikes Spares and Misses and ch 2's Saturday morning show from Fantasy Island. Well worth my contribution.
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Dial Twister wrote:
turkeytop wrote:
Why would we care if it's at par? $50C if that's all we're giving, they can count it any way they want.
Because they often give thank you prizes based on dollar amounts donated.
Ah right. The coffee mugs, the tee shirts, the tote bags. All the good stuff and I've never managed to snag any of it.
I usually call in when there is a challenge, like some generous listener pledges to match whatever is donated during the hour.
I believe that donations are Tax deduct deductible in the US. I wonder if they're taking that away too.
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Some PBS and NPR stations are in a fortunate position to receive state-level funding, either directly or indirectly. The nearest NPR station to me is KUOW Seattle, which is owned by the University of Washington, which itself is a public university receiving state funding. Closer to Ontario, WDET in Detroit has a similar situation, owned by Wayne State University which is also a public university.
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In Florida I always listen to WUSF, from the University of South Florida. I can't imagine Ron Desantis coming forward with any state funding.