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Have you ever noticed how sometimes an announcer, newscaster or on-air personality seems to fall in love with a word or a phrase? That seems to be what has befallen CFTO weather presenter Jessica Smith. I know some here think she talks a bit too fast, but that doesn't bother me.
What does is a turn of phrase which she says so often in every weathercast that I'm not even sure she's aware of it anymore. The words are "as we step into..." It can be stepping into a new week, a new year, a new month, a new season or something else, and she seems to have fallen so in love with those words that she says them constantly.
Case in point - Monday's noon weather, where she said those words not once or twice or even three times. I counted seven times in a three or four minute forecast, which is why it stands out.
It's easy to get into this habit and much harder to break it, especially if you're not even aware it's happening. (Another pet peeve is the way she constantly says the word "BUT," always in capital letters and always exaggerating that last "t.")
I think Smith does an OK job overall, although I wonder when and if Lyndsay Morrison is ever planning to return from mat leave. "As we step into" that inevitability, I hope there are no if, ands or BUTS.
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RadioActive wrote:
Have you ever noticed how sometimes an announcer, newscaster or on-air personality seems to fall in love with a word or a phrase? That seems to be what has befallen CFTO weather presenter Jessica Smith. I know some here think she talks a bit too fast, but that doesn't bother me.
What does is a turn of phrase which she says so often in every weathercast that I'm not even sure she's aware of it anymore. The words are "as we step into..." It can be stepping into a new week, a new year, a new month, a new season or something else, and she seems to have fallen so in love with those words that she says them constantly.
Case in point - Monday's noon weather, where she said those words not once or twice or even three times. I counted seven times in a three or four minute forecast, which is why it stands out.
It's easy to get into this habit and much harder to break it, especially if you're not even aware it's happening. (Another pet peeve is the way she constantly says the word "BUT," always in capital letters and always exaggerating that last "t.").
I think Smith does an OK job overall, although I wonder when and if Lyndsey Morrison is ever planning to return from mat leave. "As we step into" that inevitability, I hope there are no if, ands or BUTS.
Thankfully, I only see her on the rare times I put on CFTO TV news at 6. That would get really annoying, really fast.
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The late Bob McIntyre on CKVR almost always said something along the lines of "as we go through the night tonight" in his reports on the 6pm and 11pm newscasts. Also never said the night sky was clear - it was "stars" when there was a clear sky.
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Jessica is not alone in this. I got into a habit when I was doing an evening talk show of saying goodbye to callers with the phrase, "There's goes Bill off into the night," or "There goes Stephanie off into the night." This worked fine and I wasn't even aware of how often it was happening until one night, I said goodbye to a caller named "Jack."
And yes, it came out, "There goes Jack off into the night."
It was so glaring and I was so embarrassed, that I never said it again after that caller!
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Jessica is not alone in this. I got into a habit when I was doing an evening talk show of saying goodbye to callers with the phrase, "There's goes Bill off into the night," or "There goes Stephanie off into the night." This worked fine and I wasn't even aware of how often it was happening until one night, I said goodbye to a caller named "Jack."
And yes, it came out, "There goes Jack off into the night."
It was so glaring and I was so embarrassed, that I never said it again after that caller!
DXers can do likewise. Once when the First Canadian Place transmitters were off, including 92.5 then known as Jack FM, I posted a note on a DX list somewhere or other that started with "Jack off..." That may or may not have been intentional...
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John Moore has developed the infuriating habit of closing off interviews he does by telling the interviewee, "thank you for this,"
Lately when I have listened to him he closes off every interview with the annoying phrase.
I can't understand why he doesn't realize what he's doing.
The other peeve I have with him is his repeated expression, "we're running out of racetrack" meaning he's running out of time for a segment.
What he means to say is "running out of runway."
You can't run out of racetrack because racetracks are closed loops. They just keep going round and round.
Runways, however have a finite length and if planes run out of runway they crash.
And don't get me started on the 680 traffic reporter who pronounces stalled vehicle as "stawd veekle."
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Forward Power wrote:
The late Bob McIntyre on CKVR almost always said something along the lines of "as we go through the night tonight" in his reports on the 6pm and 11pm newscasts. Also never said the night sky was clear - it was "stars" when there was a clear sky.
CTV London weather presenter Julie Atchison would always say “conditions across our area, region” etc on the 6pm newscasts as well.
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Frequent nails on the blackboard almost daily is a host saying "We'll see you tomorrow". No, you won't.
In my 40+ years in radio and TV, mostly on-air, never have I actually seen the audience from the studio I'm in.
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Radio Bob wrote:
Frequent nails on the blackboard almost daily is a host saying "We'll see you tomorrow". No, you won't.
In my 40+ years in radio and TV, mostly on-air, never have I actually seen the audience from the studio I'm in.
Does this mean that woman on Romper Room lied to me when she said she could see me at home watching through her Magic Mirror? I'm devastated!
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No. She could see you, but only her and Santa Claus looking through his big magic telescope.
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There's the boot... now look up....waaaay up.
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Why the hell does everyone on CP24 say "Welcome back" after a break? I didn't go anywhere, you did! If anything, they should say "I'M BACK!".
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Mavridis wrote:
Why the hell does everyone on CP24 say "Welcome back" after a break? I didn't go anywhere, you did! If anything, they should say "I'M BACK!".
Or why do some news anchors say “Thanks for joining us”? I know a couple of CTV anchors like Tony Grace (CTV Kitchener), Carlyle Fiset (CTV London) etc.
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If you ever watch GMA on ABC the hosts finish every interview thanking them "as always". Very annoying.
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Despite the above mentioned annoyance, I dread the nights when Jessica Smith is off. Then I must endure Nathan Downer stumble his way through the weather forecast. I have access to the NYC network affilliates. All of them have weather AND sports reporters in their newscasts every night. It is an absolute disgrace that sports has disappeared and weather is hit and miss on CTV's affilliate in Canada's #1 market. I would assume Bell has taken a similar approach in Montreal and Vancouver.
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Forward Power wrote:
The late Bob McIntyre on CKVR almost always said something along the lines of "as we go through the night tonight" in his reports on the 6pm and 11pm newscasts. Also never said the night sky was clear - it was "stars" when there was a clear sky.
Haha yes I remember this. Luckily you can see stars here in Barrie!
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mace wrote:
Despite the above mentioned annoyance, I dread the nights when Jessica Smith is off. Then I must endure Nathan Downer stumble his way through the weather forecast. I have access to the NYC network affilliates. All of them have weather AND sports reporters in their newscasts every night. It is an absolute disgrace that sports has disappeared and weather is hit and miss on CTV's affilliate in Canada's #1 market. I would assume Bell has taken a similar approach in Montreal and Vancouver.
I agree 100%. There is simply no reason not to have a weather person - especially in Toronto in the winter. You could get away with this in July, but with snow, rain and freezing drizzle in the forecast, it would be nice to have someone who can take the time to not hurry through a weather prediction.
If you really want to see where it falls down, you should have seen Pauline Chan's attempt at doing the weather a few days ago on CFTO. She stumbled through the maps, and it was obvious she had not seen them before. She booted talking about what was on screen constantly, stumbled over her words constantly, didn't know which maps were in which order and called for one that didn't come up and it was generally a terrible presentation. It was clear she did not know what she was talking about and after it was over, I still had no real idea what to expect the next day.
Anchor weather almost never works. But it's cheaper than bringing someone in. And for Bell, that appears to be the way the wind is blowing.
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CTV Kitchener does have one person that only does weather, he has been away over the past few weeks. During the holidays one of their reporters Tyler Keleher has been doing a great job on weather during the week. They also have a female forecaster who appears only from time to time and seems to be part time and I can't remember her name.
Odd how CFTO does such a poor job, and CHCH not only always has a weather person but also someone to do sports, with an emphasis on local Hamilton area coverage. CTV London and Windsor have had a weather caster whenever I have tuned them in.
CTV's dreadful Your Morning actually seems to use their overabundance of weather as filler, and they rarely have anything about sports. CBC Morning handles both much better and with some personality.
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paterson1 wrote:
CTV Kitchener does have one person that only does weather, he has been away over the past few weeks. During the holidays one of their reporters Tyler Keleher has been doing a great job on weather during the week. They also have a female forecaster who appears only from time to time and seems to be part time and I can't remember her name.
Odd how CFTO does such a poor job, and CHCH not only always has a weather person but also someone to do sports, with an emphasis on local Hamilton area coverage. CTV London and Windsor have had a weather caster whenever I have tuned them in.
CTV's dreadful Your Morning actually seems to use their overabundance of weather as filler, and they rarely have anything about sports. CBC Morning handles both much better and with some personality.
You might be thinking of 2 female weathercasters at CTV Kitchener. They are Ashley Bacon and Krista Sharpe who is back from mat leave.
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There's a BBC World anchor Geeta Murthy, thankfully she seems more of a fill-in to NA audiences these days than in the past when she featured more.
Ended every interview with "Thank you very much indeed," regardless of topic or guest.
Some of their other anchors occasionally use those specific five words to wrap it up, but she was an abuser with the rather superfluous "indeed" - I could see using it for folks in war zones or delivering breaking news, but it started having the opposite effect on me - ie you couldn't possibly be extremely grateful to the same degree to the Royal expert and the war reporter and the White House hitter etc, so now I think you're insincere and/or operating on autopilot.
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Forward Power wrote:
The late Bob McIntyre on CKVR almost always said something along the lines of "as we go through the night tonight" in his reports on the 6pm and 11pm newscasts. Also never said the night sky was clear - it was "stars" when there was a clear sky.
CTV London weather presenter Julie Atchison would always say “conditions across our area, region” etc on the 6pm newscasts as well.
Anotther habit of hers that really irks me. She never comments on the weather in (some place) It's always in though the place. It's snowing in through Woodstock. The temperature in through Stratford is - -
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Have you ever noticed how sometimes an announcer, newscaster or on-air personality seems to fall in love with a word or a phrase? That seems to be what has befallen CFTO weather presenter Jessica Smith. I know some here think she talks a bit too fast, but that doesn't bother me.
What does is a turn of phrase which she says so often in every weathercast that I'm not even sure she's aware of it anymore. The words are "as we step into..." It can be stepping into a new week, a new year, a new month, a new season or something else, and she seems to have fallen so in love with those words that she says them constantly.
Case in point - Monday's noon weather, where she said those words not once or twice or even three times. I counted seven times in a three or four minute forecast, which is why it stands out.
It's easy to get into this habit and much harder to break it, especially if you're not even aware it's happening. (Another pet peeve is the way she constantly says the word "BUT," always in capital letters and always exaggerating that last "t.")
I think Smith does an OK job overall, although I wonder when and if Lyndsay Morrison is ever planning to return from mat leave. "As we step into" that inevitability, I hope there are no if, ands or BUTS.
Jessica has gotten better but she still talks far too fast at times.
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turkeytop wrote:
haydenmatthews14 wrote:
Forward Power wrote:
The late Bob McIntyre on CKVR almost always said something along the lines of "as we go through the night tonight" in his reports on the 6pm and 11pm newscasts. Also never said the night sky was clear - it was "stars" when there was a clear sky.
CTV London weather presenter Julie Atchison would always say “conditions across our area, region” etc on the 6pm newscasts as well.
Anotther habit of hers that really irks me. She never comments on the weather in (some place) It's always in though the place. It's snowing in through Woodstock. The temperature in through Stratford is - -
I wonder if viewers in Woodstock or Stratford watch and trust CTV London or CTV Kitchener for weather reports.
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haydenmatthews14 wrote:
turkeytop wrote:
haydenmatthews14 wrote:
CTV London weather presenter Julie Atchison would always say “conditions across our area, region” etc on the 6pm newscasts as well.Anotther habit of hers that really irks me. She never comments on the weather in (some place) It's always in though the place. It's snowing in through Woodstock. The temperature in through Stratford is - -
I wonder if viewers in Woodstock or Stratford watch and trust CTV London or CTV Kitchener for weather reports.
I'm not really certain if the Stratford or Woodstock usage I cited were even correct. It could just as easily be in through Sarnia or in through Goderich.
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Have lived in Woodstock for almost 20 years and have never heard Julie mention the city in a weather forecast. As a matter of fact have complained that their maps do not even include Woodstock despite the fact that Woodstock is the second or third largest city in the immediate area of London. It also happens at Kitchener CTV. Not a big deal to have someone in graphics create a new map......if anyone still works there! London (CFPL-TV) was one of the best news organizations but has continued all the way to the bottom......but thats another story for another day.
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Jacjames wrote:
Have lived in Woodstock for almost 20 years and have never heard Julie mention the city in a weather forecast. As a matter of fact have complained that their maps do not even include Woodstock despite the fact that Woodstock is the second or third largest city in the immediate area of London. It also happens at Kitchener CTV. Not a big deal to have someone in graphics create a new map......if anyone still works there! London (CFPL-TV) was one of the best news organizations but has continued all the way to the bottom......but thats another story for another day.
Sometimes they show Woodstock on the map. But only when they are zoomed in on London like during severe weather etc. Also I noticed that CTV Kitchener’s 7 day forecasts is that they include areas like Sarnia/Lambton, Windsor/Essex, Chatham-Kent and Georgian Bay area too. Same with CTV London their 7 day forecast includes the Midwest areas of their coverage area.
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haydenmatthews14 wrote:
Jacjames wrote:
Have lived in Woodstock for almost 20 years and have never heard Julie mention the city in a weather forecast. As a matter of fact have complained that their maps do not even include Woodstock despite the fact that Woodstock is the second or third largest city in the immediate area of London. It also happens at Kitchener CTV. Not a big deal to have someone in graphics create a new map......if anyone still works there! London (CFPL-TV) was one of the best news organizations but has continued all the way to the bottom......but thats another story for another day.
Sometimes they show Woodstock on the map. But only when they are zoomed in on London like during severe weather etc. Also I noticed that CTV Kitchener’s 7 day forecasts is that they include areas like Sarnia/Lambton, Windsor/Essex, Chatham-Kent and Georgian Bay area too. Same with CTV London their 7 day forecast includes the Midwest areas of their coverage area.
Do they still operate the former CKNX transmitter on CH 8?
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All of which reminds me - why does CFTO's weather display always have every temperature in Ontario possible on its initial weather map but Toronto? Isn't that where most of the viewers are? They usually go to a separate board for the local conditions, but you have to wait.
I get why Hamilton or St. Catharines might be there, and I guess it's nice to know how the folks in Owen Sound are doing, but CFTO is a local station. I really could live without knowing it's -38C in Peawanuck. (On a side note, where the hell is Peawanuck and what is it doing on a Toronto station's weather map in the first place?)
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turkeytop wrote:
haydenmatthews14 wrote:
Jacjames wrote:
Have lived in Woodstock for almost 20 years and have never heard Julie mention the city in a weather forecast. As a matter of fact have complained that their maps do not even include Woodstock despite the fact that Woodstock is the second or third largest city in the immediate area of London. It also happens at Kitchener CTV. Not a big deal to have someone in graphics create a new map......if anyone still works there! London (CFPL-TV) was one of the best news organizations but has continued all the way to the bottom......but thats another story for another day.
Sometimes they show Woodstock on the map. But only when they are zoomed in on London like during severe weather etc. Also I noticed that CTV Kitchener’s 7 day forecasts is that they include areas like Sarnia/Lambton, Windsor/Essex, Chatham-Kent and Georgian Bay area too. Same with CTV London their 7 day forecast includes the Midwest areas of their coverage area.
Do they still operate the former CKNX transmitter on CH 8?
I think they shut down the CKNX TV transmitter sometime ago. I don’t know when but there is a reporter based out of the former CKNX station in Wingham. Scott Miller who covers the Midwestern part of Ontario.
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(On a side note, where the hell is Peawanuck and what is it doing on a Toronto station's weather map in the first place?)
Hudson's Bay. 🤔