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December 23, 2024 8:10 am  #1


Christmas Day NFL Games May Be A Challenge For CTV/TSN

The fact that CTV and TSN are showing both Christmas Day NFL games is remarkable enough for Canadian viewers - those same two contests will be restricted to Netflix subscribers in the U.S. Here, both the K.C-Pittsburgh and the later Ravens-Texans tilts will be on free TV. 

My questions: where are they getting the feed? Does Netflix make room for commercials? If not, how do they get their own in without missing anything?

But the real problem is with so many almost certain to tune in across the U.S., what happens to the feed if it gets interrupted and is plagued with issues like the Mike Tyson-Jake Paul boxing match was on Nov. 15th?

Hopefully, Netflix learned its lesson from that buffering debacle but if it happens again, will it also hang up the broadcast for TSN & CTV? I'm assuming they might have a different source for the feed. But it will be worth watching just see if it all goes smoothly.  

 

December 23, 2024 8:46 am  #2


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Hmm, looks like I wasn't the only one wondering about this. 

"While the boxing match was able to proceed despite some fans complaining of long load times or pixelated images, it was an unwelcome foul-up for a company preparing to air its first live NFL games on Christmas Day. It also revealed the complexity of bringing live sporting events to the global masses."

Can Netflix Avoid Glitches In Its Christmas Day NFL Broadcasts?

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December 23, 2024 10:44 am  #3


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Netflix will have commercials during the game.  In fact the ad avails have been sold out for months, but I wouldn't be surprised if they had less than a normal broadcast.   CBS is producing the games for Netflix according to Forbes magazine, so at least the broadcast will look slick.  In terms of the buffering let's hope this isn't an issue for those paying on Netflix.  CTV/TSN won't likely have any problems.  https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/netflix-says-its-commercials-for-christmas-nfl-games-are-sold-out

 

December 23, 2024 10:52 am  #4


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RadioActive wrote:

The fact that CTV and TSN are showing both Christmas Day NFL games is remarkable enough for Canadian viewers - those same two contests will be restricted to Netflix subscribers in the U.S. Here, both the K.C-Pittsburgh and the later Ravens-Texans tilts will be on free TV. 

My questions: where are they getting the feed? Does Netflix make room for commercials? If not, how do they get their own in without missing anything?

But the real problem is with so many almost certain to tune in across the U.S., what happens to the feed if it gets interrupted and is plagued with issues like the Mike Tyson-Jake Paul boxing match was on Nov. 15th?

Hopefully, Netflix learned its lesson from that buffering debacle but if it happens again, will it also hang up the broadcast for TSN & CTV? I'm assuming they might have a different source for the feed. But it will be worth watching just see if it all goes smoothly.  

It would be comical at best if CTV is actually logging in to Netflix on some computer at master control and actually feeding that stream to its stations.

Most likely CTV is getting the broadcast backhauled via satellite or whatever. CTV already has been broadcasting the Amazon Prime Thursday Night football games.

 

December 23, 2024 11:04 am  #5


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ED1 wrote:

RadioActive wrote:

The fact that CTV and TSN are showing both Christmas Day NFL games is remarkable enough for Canadian viewers - those same two contests will be restricted to Netflix subscribers in the U.S. Here, both the K.C-Pittsburgh and the later Ravens-Texans tilts will be on free TV. 

My questions: where are they getting the feed? Does Netflix make room for commercials? If not, how do they get their own in without missing anything?

But the real problem is with so many almost certain to tune in across the U.S., what happens to the feed if it gets interrupted and is plagued with issues like the Mike Tyson-Jake Paul boxing match was on Nov. 15th?

Hopefully, Netflix learned its lesson from that buffering debacle but if it happens again, will it also hang up the broadcast for TSN & CTV? I'm assuming they might have a different source for the feed. But it will be worth watching just see if it all goes smoothly.  

It would be comical at best if CTV is actually logging in to Netflix on some computer at master control and actually feeding that stream to its stations.

Most likely CTV is getting the broadcast backhauled via satellite or whatever. CTV already has been broadcasting the Amazon Prime Thursday Night football games.

That's actually what I thought, too, most likely a backhaul source. But if there's a problem at the point of origin of the game, you have to wonder if that might affect a TV broadcast. 

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December 23, 2024 11:22 am  #6


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RadioActive wrote:

ED1 wrote:

RadioActive wrote:

The fact that CTV and TSN are showing both Christmas Day NFL games is remarkable enough for Canadian viewers - those same two contests will be restricted to Netflix subscribers in the U.S. Here, both the K.C-Pittsburgh and the later Ravens-Texans tilts will be on free TV. 

My questions: where are they getting the feed? Does Netflix make room for commercials? If not, how do they get their own in without missing anything?

But the real problem is with so many almost certain to tune in across the U.S., what happens to the feed if it gets interrupted and is plagued with issues like the Mike Tyson-Jake Paul boxing match was on Nov. 15th?

Hopefully, Netflix learned its lesson from that buffering debacle but if it happens again, will it also hang up the broadcast for TSN & CTV? I'm assuming they might have a different source for the feed. But it will be worth watching just see if it all goes smoothly.  

It would be comical at best if CTV is actually logging in to Netflix on some computer at master control and actually feeding that stream to its stations.

Most likely CTV is getting the broadcast backhauled via satellite or whatever. CTV already has been broadcasting the Amazon Prime Thursday Night football games.

That's actually what I thought, too, most likely a backhaul source. But if there's a problem at the point of origin of the game, you have to wonder if that might affect a TV broadcast. 

That's like any other NFL or sports broadcast on TV. They have a multi million dollar mobile production truck at the stadium. If the mobile truck goes down, so does the game. There's engineers on hand and other contingencies CBS has for these things. The only difference is how the end customer is getting this game. 
 

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December 23, 2024 5:01 pm  #7


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One critic feels that Netflix learned nothing from its boxing bashing. 

NFL statement on Netflix buffering issue jinxed Christmas Day broadcast beyond belief

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December 23, 2024 5:24 pm  #8


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Amazon Prime has also had problems with buffering, glitchy sound and poor picture quality on some of their Thursday night games.  Haven't heard that CTV/TSN has had any problems but as mentioned they have a different feed anyway.  https://amazonforum.my.site.com/s/question/0D56Q0000CIjj34SQB/why-does-thursday-night-football-keep-freezing

I remember the first year of Blue Jays games streaming on Apple+ were pretty bad overall.  They would have stretches when everything was fine, but then jumpy shots, buffering and poor sound quality and this would happen sometimes over half an inning.  Didn't watch much last year, but it did seem quite a bit better the few innings I watched.   

 

December 23, 2024 6:28 pm  #9


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How pathetic that a Canadian network figures it's a real coup to show Canadians two American NFL football games on Christmas Day.
Why don't they just pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America.
This used to be no part of a Canadian Christmas.
What's next, flying the Confederate flag on Parliament Hill?
Maybe Trump is right... Canadians want to be the 51st state.


 

 

December 23, 2024 6:36 pm  #10


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Only a matter of time before the NHL has games over Christmas. Someone will make them an offfer they can't refuse at some point 

 

December 23, 2024 7:02 pm  #11


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It's two NFL football games on Christmas day, nothing political about that.  It's business and programming, real simple.  Canadian networks with a better schedule than their US counterparts is nothing new, especially with sports.
 
It doesn't matter if it's from the US.  Beating them at their own game is what is significant.  The NFL games that we watch for free on OTA, or no extra cost on TSN won't last forever.  So if you are an NFL fan, enjoy it while it's here.  Same with the excellent NHL coverage on SN and CBC, and superior coverage of the Olympics.   

Confederate flag on Parliament Hill??  And pledging allegiance?   Huh??

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December 23, 2024 8:54 pm  #12


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Well the NFL will be on  U.S. Network television until the current contract expires in 2033. After that who knows.

 

December 23, 2024 11:14 pm  #13


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mace wrote:

Well the NFL will be on  U.S. Network television until the current contract expires in 2033. After that who knows.

They won't necessarily be on CTV/TSN after 2026. 

 

December 24, 2024 12:20 am  #14


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Obviously it's a backhaul feed... 0% chance it's being streamed in master control. This will be no different than any Thursday game. CTV has aired commercial free quarters in the past without issue, so a different ad load would be communicated to all the broadcasters worldwide well in advance. 

 

December 24, 2024 7:33 am  #15


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While we’re talking sports on Christmas Day, the NBA is airing 5 games that day, no time for turkey!

 

December 24, 2024 9:15 am  #16


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Shorty Wave wrote:

While we’re talking sports on Christmas Day, the NBA is airing 5 games that day, no time for turkey!

Last year when the NFL and NBA competed on Christmas Day, it was like Bambi vs Godzilla. The three NFL games drew between 27M and 29M viewers. The highest rated of the five NBA games [Lakers/Celtics] clocked in at 5M. I suspect similar results this year.

 

December 24, 2024 9:23 pm  #17


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Turns out Canadians aren't the only ones who will be able to see the games OTA. The rules say the home teams get to show the contests on their local affiliates. That may be the feed CTV and TSN take. 

"Steelers-Chiefs game will be available on CBS affiliates KDKA in Pittsburgh and KCTV in Kansas City. Meanwhile, CBS affiliates KHOU in Houston and WJZ in Baltimore will carry the Texans-Ravens games.

As part of their deal to produce the Netflix games, CBS receives a production fee, promotion spots during the games, and the ability to sell ads in the local markets airing the games on broadcast television."

Not everyone will need Netflix to watch Christmas Day NFL games
 

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December 25, 2024 6:54 am  #18


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RadioActive wrote:

Turns out Canadians aren't the only ones who will be able to see the games OTA. The rules say the home teams get to show the contests on their local affiliates. That may be the feed CTV and TSN take. 

"Steelers-Chiefs game will be available on CBS affiliates KDKA in Pittsburgh and KCTV in Kansas City. Meanwhile, CBS affiliates KHOU in Houston and WJZ in Baltimore will carry the Texans-Ravens games.

As part of their deal to produce the Netflix games, CBS receives a production fee, promotion spots during the games, and the ability to sell ads in the local markets airing the games on broadcast television."

Not everyone will need Netflix to watch Christmas Day NFL games
 

This local affilliate rule also applies to the Amazon Prime Thursday and ESPN only Monday games.

 

December 25, 2024 2:58 pm  #19


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Netflix subscribers who pay extra for the commercial free option aren't happy they're being forced to see spots before their eyes during the NFL broadcasts. 

Netflix Forces Commercials on Ad-Free Subscribers During Live NFL Broadcast, and We Hate It

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Yesterday 7:47 am  #20


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Despite some early snafus, the NFL on Netflix was a touchdown. 

Netflix has up-and-down first foray into NFL broadcasting after early glitch

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Yesterday 9:54 am  #21


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The game looked better OTA on CFTO than on Netflix.Sony 4k tv with premium Netflix.

 

Yesterday 12:54 pm  #22


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I'm not surprised that there were no major server issues with the NFL games that I know of.  The US and some of Canada cares about the NFL. the boxing was a global event.  Try a World Cup final ;)