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Daylight saving time, will radio and tv get it right.
Even if the weather isn't cooperating, it's the spring forward part of the year. How many on-air news announcers and hosts will goof up, add the extra S and call it daylight savingS time, instead of daylight saving time.
Nobody wants to get it wrong and sound like Gollum, but it's a certainty at least a few broadcasters will ssslip up.
Then with the time adjustment, there's the possibility of glitches in the automated programming on reroll Sunday radio.
At least those working the overnight shift (I've been there, tough gig) will be happy tonight.
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Apparently we are all getting it wrong. Canadian Press style guide says it's "Daylight Time" (no 'saving').
eg) This CP wire copy on The National Post website...
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If broadcasters started calling it "Daylight Time" I guarantee half the audience would think that they 're talking about daylight or daytime rather than moving the clock forward or back an hour. Hey, at least it's not called "War Time" anymore!
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Hansa wrote:
Hey, at least it's not called "War Time" anymore!
How long until?
If we don't quickly stop cowering to a madman with nukes, the march across Europe will continue. If it's too dangerous to confront him, what lessons does that teach North Korea, Iran, China, etc.?
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Hey, at least it's not called "War Time" anymore!
How long until?
If we don't quickly stop cowering to a madman with nukes, the march across Europe will continue. If it's too dangerous to confront him, what lessons does that teach North Korea, Iran, China, etc.?
The problem of course is that any attack on Russia would lead to WW3. Should that happen, this is what you'd hear (or not hear)...
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The US senate has passed a bill today that would end the need to change the time. Daylight Saving Time would be permanent. Has still to pass in then house and be signed by the president. Would take effect in 2023.
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The US senate has passed a bill today that would end the need to change the time. Daylight Saving Time would be permanent. Has still to pass in then house and be signed by the president. Would take effect in 2023.
The bill is actually called "The Sunshine Protection Act" which is so very The Onion.
Expect a Saturday Night Live sketch, maybe with with two senators, a hard-nosed senior schooling a preppy junior, both drunk in a Washington bar...
Senior "we need a feel good moment in American politics"
Junior "hmmm, say, I have an idea, let's give the people what they want, the right to have agency over their bodies"
S "nah, something simple, something cheap, that every man, woman and real American can get behind, more sunshine!"
J "sir, the actual sunshine won't increase."
S "but it will feel like there's more sunshine, throw in the environment angle and we'll be golden."
J "golden like sunshine sir!"
S "you're catching on sonny."
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OK maybe I imagined this but wasn't there a very brief time in the past - decades ago - when Ontario was one hour different from the U.S.? I can't quite recall why, but Buffalo was an hour ahead of us for some reason.
It sticks out in my increasingly addled mind because it totally screwed up all the primetime shows on TV. So something that was on at 8 PM U.S. time started at 7 PM here and primetime ended at 10 o'clock. Canadian networks were forced to scramble, with an extra hour to fill before the 11 o'clock news.
Again, I can't quite call to mind when this happened (although I'm pretty sure it was before simsub) but I think it was some sort of experiment with the time change down south. The only thing I'm sure of is that it didn't last long.
I do know that in 1974, DST started early in the U.S. - on Jan. 6th, as part of a plan to save energy during a crisis. It might have happened then.
Does anyone else remember this or is my mind playing tricks on me?
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It was Michigan and Ontario you are thinking of. Don't recall NY state ever having different time than Ontario. Detroit and Windsor were separated by one hour in 1973 when Michigan didn't do the time change. They only did this for one year. It was interesting for CKLW since they would do top of the hour time checks and I can't remember which came first but it was something like "it's 7 o'clock in Detroit and 8 o'clock at CKLW". . During the show however they only gave the time for CKLW on the airchecks I heard. Maybe in the morning they did both or just dropped time checks so much. Likely didn't impact Windsor television that much since their programming was already different than what the rest of CTV and CBC networks were scheduling.
More information on Michigan's experiment from Michigan Live..
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OK maybe I imagined this but wasn't there a very brief time in the past - decades ago - when Ontario was one hour different from the U.S.? I can't quite recall why, but Buffalo was an hour ahead of us for some reason.
It sticks out in my increasingly addled mind because it totally screwed up all the primetime shows on TV. So something that was on at 8 PM U.S. time started at 7 PM here and primetime ended at 10 o'clock. Canadian networks were forced to scramble, with an extra hour to fill before the 11 o'clock news.
Again, I can't quite call to mind when this happened (although I'm pretty sure it was before simsub) but I think it was some sort of experiment with the time change down south. The only thing I'm sure of is that it didn't last long.
I do know that in 1974, DST started early in the U.S. - on Jan. 6th, as part of a plan to save energy during a crisis. It might have happened then.
Does anyone else remember this or is my mind playing tricks on me?
You're right. When the US switched to DST early in 1974, we didn't, and so Buffalo was an hour different from us. My father was responsible for doing timetables for Gray Coach Lines at the time, and he was very unhappy about this .... it caused a lot of problems with the connections they made with Greyhound in Buffalo.
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Thanks Lorne (and mojo55 in a separate thread.) I was pretty sure it happened but that it didn't last long. What's surprising is they let it get to that point at all, given the interplay between the two countries.
If simsub had existed at the time, I can only wonder what the Canadian stations would have done. Cancel their money-making 7-8 PM syndicated shows? Air Jeopardy and Wheel of Fortune at 10 o'clock at night instead? Move the 6 PM news back to 5?
It certainly would have made for some interesting choices for Canadian programmers. It is, of course, just one more reason why we would have to go along with whatever the U.S. decides. The chaos it would cause (beyond just TV, but that's our focus here) is simply not worth it.
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When the US decided to try year-round Daylight Saving Time as a response to the energy crisis, I don't think that they really gave much thought to how that would affect coordinating things with us. I remember that there was some pressure on the Ontario government to follow suit, but there was also a lot of pressure not to do so as well because it would mean children would be going to school in the dark. I was 13 at the time, and my mother didn't want the province to change because of this which meant that she and my father were very much on opposite sides of the issue. I didn't want us to change either, but that was more because I felt that the US had just expected that we would go along with whatever they did and I didn't like that. In the end, the government decided not to change and it was because of the safety concerns regarding children
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My apology, I didn't realize or even remember it was the whole country. The experiment was originally to last for two years, but it didn't happen. Too much confusion, too dark in the morning and most Americans didn't like it...
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Yes ... when the US abandoned the idea, I remember feeling vindicated regarding how I had felt about us not making the change just because they had, and I'm sure my mother did as well.