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February 27, 2026 8:11 pm  #1


Neil Sedaka dead at 86


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February 27, 2026 8:33 pm  #2


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Wrote & recorded Stairway to Heaven, too


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February 27, 2026 10:24 pm  #3


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Should have been inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame long ago. Wrote or co-wrote over 500 songs.


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February 27, 2026 11:03 pm  #4


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Not the same "Stairway to Heaven" as Led Zeppelin.

 

February 28, 2026 8:44 am  #5


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Ale Ont wrote:

Not the same "Stairway to Heaven" as Led Zeppelin.

ALE ONT  --  would you say that Sedaka's version is for AM-740 listeners, while Led Zep's is for the Q-107 crowd?

 

February 28, 2026 8:58 am  #6


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Dicky Doo wrote:

Wrote & recorded Stairway to Heaven, too
The Sedaka version reached #9 on the Hot 100 in March 1960. It does not sound anywhere similar to what Page and Plant developed in 1971.

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February 28, 2026 8:59 am  #7


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Dicky Doo wrote:

Ale Ont wrote:

Not the same "Stairway to Heaven" as Led Zeppelin.

ALE ONT  --  would you say that Sedaka's version is for AM-740 listeners, while Led Zep's is for the Q-107 crowd?

I would agree with that.

 

February 28, 2026 9:19 am  #8


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Dicky Doo wrote:

Ale Ont wrote:

Not the same "Stairway to Heaven" as Led Zeppelin.

ALE ONT  --  would you say that Sedaka's version is for AM-740 listeners, while Led Zep's is for the Q-107 crowd?

And if they're still doing phone in music trivia on 740's afternoon drive show, it will take 9 callers until someone gets the correct band for the 'other' version of the song.
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February 28, 2026 9:34 am  #9


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Easily Amused wrote:

Dicky Doo wrote:

Ale Ont wrote:

Not the same "Stairway to Heaven" as Led Zeppelin.

ALE ONT  --  would you say that Sedaka's version is for AM-740 listeners, while Led Zep's is for the Q-107 crowd?

And if they're still doing phone in music trivia on 740's afternoon drive show, it will take 9 callers until someone gets the correct band for the 'other' version of the song.
*
"Hello...the Beatles?"
"Frank Sinatra?"
"Herman's Hermits?"
"Patsy Gallant?"
"I was calling for 'Fight Back'."

 
The phone in music trivia on 740 ended when their system was hacked late last year and they couldn’t use the phone lines, then Liz West left and that was it. I would listen to it usually on my way home and actually enjoyed it, even though it was a bit hokey, especially when you had to “sing the next lyrics”!

 

February 28, 2026 9:52 am  #10


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Dicky Doo wrote:

Ale Ont wrote:

Not the same "Stairway to Heaven" as Led Zeppelin.

ALE ONT  --  would you say that Sedaka's version is for AM-740 listeners, while Led Zep's is for the Q-107 crowd?

Actually, I think AM740 plays both these days.


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March 1, 2026 6:57 am  #11


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This was so sad. Neil Sedaka was not only a big hitmaker in the 60s, but also an incredible writer, along with his long-time partner Howard Greenfield.

But he’s also among music’s real rarities – he’s one of the few who hung around long enough to have a second act. His career was all but wiped out by the British Invasion and the hits virtually stopped.

But in the mid-70s, thanks to the intervention of Elton John, of all people, he came roaring back with big hits like “Laughter In The Rain,” “Bad Blood” and “The Immigrant.” I can’t think of many who faded out like he did and then came back so strong

And there’s one more anomaly in his long career – he’s one of the only artists/songwriters who ever had a shout-out on another record by a different artist. At the end of the Captain & Tennille’s debut hit “Love Will Keep Us Together” (written by Sedaka and Greenfield) they sing “Sedaka is back,” which just happened to be the name of his comeback LP. That song, by the way, wound up as the #1 tune of 1975, spending four weeks at the top of the Billboard chart.

A pretty amazing career twice over.

 

March 1, 2026 5:24 pm  #12


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One more amazing feat by Sedaka. He's the only artist I can think of who charted with the same song twice - at different tempos. His "Breaking Up Is Hard To Do" in 1962 was a #1 classic. But his softer, slower version hit the Billboard Charts again and went to #8. That's simply unheard of and I'm not sure if it will ever happen again. 

 

March 1, 2026 7:40 pm  #13


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With reference to CHUM charts:

Del Shannon, Runaway, 1961, & 1967 - different versions

Surfaris, Wipe Out, 1963 & 1966 -- different versions

D.D.
 

 

March 1, 2026 8:41 pm  #14


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I think that Sedaka reaching the top 10 twice with two completely different versions of the same song is the most remarkable single instance of an artist doing this. However, Tommy Edwards made the top 40 on Billboard three times with very different versions of his hits "It's All In The Game" (1951, 1958), "The Morning Side of The Mountain" (1951, 1959), and "Please, Mr. Sun" (1952, 1959). Of course the originals of all three songs predate the CHUM Chart, but there is another instance of this kind of feat occurring during the CHUM Chart era: The Ventures with "Walk-Don't Run" and "Walk-Don't Run '64". Also noteworthy is that on Billboard, the two versions had almost the same chart peaks as what Sedaka achieved; The Ventures' original got to #2 in 1960, and their remake reached #8 in 1964.

 

March 1, 2026 10:38 pm  #15


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Eric Clapton charted at least twice with "Layla"; once in 1972 as part of Derek and the Dominos from the album Layla and Other Assorted Love Songs, and then two decades later in 1992 as a solo artist with his Unplugged album.

Interestingly, the song was originally released as a single in 1971 in a majorly edited version which just featured the rocking first part, fading at 2:43, totally omitting the piano passage that goes on for about another four minutes. The common practice of editing a single for airplay to make it more appealing to radio programmers and the public was not particularly effective this time around, as the single only peaked as high as #51 on the Billboard Hot 100.

The song was re-released the following year as part of Eric Clapton's The History of Eric Clapton compilation, as well as Duane Allman's An Anthology. "Layla" was released in its full 7:10 version as a single this time around and peaked at #10 on the Billboard Hot 100, as well as #9 on the Canadian RPM Singles chart. It was also a Top 10/Top 20 hit in a number of other countries. The D&D version also saw a limited release in 1982 and became a Top 10 hit in Great Britain, Ireland, Japan and Poland.


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March 2, 2026 2:19 am  #16


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RadioActive wrote:

This was so sad. Neil Sedaka was not only a big hitmaker in the 60s, but also an incredible writer, along with his long-time partner Howard Greenfield.

But he’s also among music’s real rarities – he’s one of the few who hung around long enough to have a second act. His career was all but wiped out by the British Invasion and the hits virtually stopped.

But in the mid-70s, thanks to the intervention of Elton John, of all people, he came roaring back with big hits like “Laughter In The Rain,” “Bad Blood” and “The Immigrant.” I can’t think of many who faded out like he did and then came back so strong

And there’s one more anomaly in his long career – he’s one of the only artists/songwriters who ever had a shout-out on another record by a different artist. At the end of the Captain & Tennille’s debut hit “Love Will Keep Us Together” (written by Sedaka and Greenfield) they sing “Sedaka is back,” which just happened to be the name of his comeback LP. That song, by the way, wound up as the #1 tune of 1975, spending four weeks at the top of the Billboard chart.

A pretty amazing career twice over.

Love song Bee Gees then Disco Bee Gees?

 

March 2, 2026 8:24 am  #17


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also psychedelic and power pop Bee Gees as well:

 

 


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March 2, 2026 8:54 am  #18


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Fitz wrote:

also psychedelic and power pop Bee Gees as well:

 

 

That is probably from their "One" 1967 psychedlic LP experiment. I doubt if it was released as a single in North America. It never cracked the Hot 100 or Bubblling Under chart.

 

March 2, 2026 9:41 am  #19


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The Bee Gees are a good example of a big comeback. In fact, it could be argued they were more successful with their later material from Saturday Night Fever than the stuff they hit the charts with in the 60s. 

Another group, although to a far lesser extent, is The Four Seasons. All those amazing 60s hits, like "Rag Doll," were huge sellers. But they returned years later with discofied versions of songs like "December 1963" and "Who Loves You" in the 70s. And Frankie Valli had a few solo hits of his own, such as "Grease" and "My Eyes Adored You." 

Again, it's unusual but it happens. 

 

March 2, 2026 10:55 am  #20


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mace wrote:

Fitz wrote:

also psychedelic and power pop Bee Gees as well:

 

 

That is probably from their "One" 1967 psychedlic LP experiment. I doubt if it was released as a single in North America. It never cracked the Hot 100 or Bubblling Under chart.

Their first North American top 40 hit had shades of psychedelia and people fo forget that the early Bee Gees were played on FM free form radio for example their album Odessa.




 

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March 2, 2026 11:03 am  #21


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I had actually thought about mentioning "December 1963" as another song that was a hit twice for the same artist in two different versions. But in this case the second version was a remix of the first, and that aspect of it didn't involve the original artist; it was done by Dutch DJ and producer Ben Liebrand. The original went to #1 in 1976, and the remix reached #14 in 1994.

 

March 2, 2026 11:11 am  #22


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Have not seen this much attention directed to an "oldies" topic since the D. Patterson and C. Smith eras.   Those were the days; we thought they'd never end.

D.D.     

 

March 6, 2026 7:03 am  #23


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Less than a week after his death, Neil Sedaka's music has registered an amazing 708% increase on streaming services. It's not unusual (not a Tom Jones reference!) for an artist's back catalogue to see more people listening after their passing, but this is a huge amount, especially for a musician that hasn't had a hit record since the 1970s. 

So what was at the top of the charts for the late and lamented singer-composer?

“Laughter in the Rain” (up 505% in streams to 514,000), “Breaking Up Is Hard to Do” (up 453% to 307,000) and “Calendar Girl” (up 519% to 212,000). In addition, The Captain and Tennille’s Sedaka-co-penned “Love Will Keep Us Together” got a more modest 15% bump to 137,000 streams, while Sedaka’s original “Love” was up a whopping 1,811% to 55,000 streams."

Trending Up Is Hard to Do: Neil Sedaka Streams Up 700% Following Legendary Pop Singer-Songwriter’s Death

 

March 6, 2026 3:45 pm  #24


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Thanks RA, for bringing this thread back to Neil Sedaka. While he wrote amazing melodies, we can't forget the two main men who wrote his lyrics. First, his neighbour Howie Greenfield in the '60s/'70s - "Oh Carol", "Stairway To Heaven" "Breaking Up Is Hard To Do", "Love Will Keep Us Together", "Calendar Girl", "Happy Birthday Sweet Sixteen" plus so many more. In the '70s, Phil Cody ("Laughter In The Rain", "Bad Blood", "Solitaire", "The Immigrant")

During COVID, Neil was on Facebook almost every day performing 3 songs from his catalogue to make people feel better. 

I interviewed Neil at his town house in New York in the late1980s. He had a sore throat that day and I asked him several times if he wanted to stop. He said "Let's keep going".

I have over an hour on tape with him (actually on DAT) and then another 45 minutes just chatting. He loved Toronto and had great memories of performing here.

Neil was a true renaissance man. Damn the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame for not inducting him while he was alive.  

 

March 6, 2026 3:52 pm  #25


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 Video of him two days before he died. He seemed like a nice guy with a sense of humor

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_4c76n7Y7E


 

 

March 6, 2026 4:07 pm  #26


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Not sure how many people know that Gene Pitney's hit "It Hurts To Be In Love" was actually recorded by Neil Sedaka and was supposed to be released as a single. But when Sedaka's record label balked because his contract stipulated that he had to record it in one of their studios - and he didn't - they refused to release it.

So they wiped his vocal track off the background music and had Gene Pitney record it instead. It was a huge song in 1964, and if I'm not mistaken, to add insult to injury, I believe Sedaka's voice is on there in the background. If you listen to the tune, you can almost hear how much it's like a Sedaka song - because, in fact, it was.

He didn't really have another hit until his big comeback in the mid-70s.

 

March 7, 2026 1:16 am  #27


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Another example of two distinctly different versions of a song charting (although this would be at the same time) would be Paul McCartney's 1984 hit, "No More Lonely Nights". In many territories, there were two versions released on the 45 rpm single: the "ballad" version on the A-side, and the faster-tempoed dance-oriented "playout version" on the flip side. Although the ballad version seemed to win out as the more popular of the two, some stations did opt for the playout version instead. I remember CFTR and CKOC playing the former, while 1050 CHUM opted for the latter (I also recall hearing the playout version on 570 CHYM in Kitchener at the time).

There was only one video for the song though, the ballad version, which probably made it a little awkward for 1050 CHUM with their Saturday night video countdown, The CHUM 30.


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March 10, 2026 7:08 am  #28


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I thought about  this yesterday when I posted The Beach Boy's Country Joe song. They released two different studio versions of Help Me Ronda and their live renditions of the same song was sometimes very different. Moreover they had so many different sounds from wacked out lofi to progressive psychedelia to AOR that only the die hard fans are aware of as heard below:




















 


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