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I have an over-the-air recorder called DVR+, an old model made by Channel Master. It's a great machine and rarely gives me any problems.
But I've noticed something extremely odd in some of the program descriptions and I wonder if anyone else has ever seen them. The DVR Guide updates overnights every Thursday, giving you a week or so worth of listings. They're usually very accurate and they're free.
So you can imagine my surprise when I turned on WGRZ's early news to see a description telling me I was watching "Oklahoma City's latest headlines."
Over on Channel 7 at 6, I often see "Savannah's news." I assume that's the one in Georgia.
But my favourite and perhaps the craziest of all is Global's 6 PM show, in which I'm informed I'm watching the latest headlines for Donn Mills. Yes, Donn Mills, with two "n's." I had no idea there was such much going on in Don Mills that they had their own newscast!
It's very weird, probably only happens on my system and I wonder how this keeps happening.
Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go see what's going on in Savannah...
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Whenever I tune in to the news via Global OTA, it shows "Headlines from Donn Mills". Obviously there's a lack of due care and attention by whoever updates that data at Global. I find Canadian broadcasters (except CBC) put very little effort into these program descriptions. CHCH OTA has been showing nothing but "DTV Program" for the past several days.
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I have seen the Donn Mills from Global before as well. Right now the 11 PM news shows as Donn Mills but the National News has a longer description.
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Meanwhile on the cable side, Rogers on screen guide is extremely detailed. It tells you if the episode is "NEW" or a "repeat" It also gives an original TVGuide style program synopsis and as an added bonus the episode name and original air date. This is quite helpful when watching CHCH. Their trending feature [I assume] lists every Rogers channel offered. I once checked and stopped at 150. Another useful feature is "Free For Me" which only lists the channels to which I subscribe.
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Davenet wrote:
Whenever I tune in to the news via Global OTA, it shows "Headlines from Donn Mills". Obviously there's a lack of due care and attention by whoever updates that data at Global. I find Canadian broadcasters (except CBC) put very little effort into these program descriptions. CHCH OTA has been showing nothing but "DTV Program" for the past several days.
It just occurred to me that the station is located on Barber Greene Rd., which is in Don Mills (one "n.") How that got mixed up in the program's description is anyone's guess. But it's never been corrected.
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It's set to zip code 14202 (Buffalo) because they don't offer the format for Canadian postal codes, with letters and numbers. So that doesn't explain it. It's odd that both Channel 7 and Channel 2 sometimes (but not always) show up with Savannah and Oklahoma City.
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I just checked to see if I received the updated guide on my DVR and noticed under WGRZ's NBC News Daily, the program description reads:
"Mid-day news in Tyler-Longview with today's local stories."
Where is Tyler-Longview? Turns out it's in Texas.
Why it would say that on an NBC show being broadcast on a Buffalo affiliate is beyond me.
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Mine does permit the entry of Canadian postal codes, so I suspect you may have a different software load to me. On power up, the EPG data is initially loaded from the tuned channel and then gets appended from the Internet. I suspect if you disconnected the Internet and rebooted, you would get the correct EPG data when tuned to WGRZ and WKBW. Of course, their steams only provide program data for their own channels. I have to admit though, I can't think of a good reason why you would be seeing out of market EPG data when using a Buffalo zip code. I assume this is something that has just started recently?
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Mine does permit the entry of Canadian postal codes, so I suspect you may have a different software load to me. On power up, the EPG data is initially loaded from the tuned channel and then gets appended from the Internet. I suspect if you disconnected the Internet and rebooted, you would get the correct EPG data when tuned to WGRZ and WKBW. Of course, their steams only provide program data for their own channels. I have to admit though, I can't think of a good reason why you would be seeing out of market EPG data when using a Buffalo zip code. I assume this is something that has just started recently?
Actually, it's been going on for a while. While most listings I look at on the EPG are fine, it seems to be the local news ones where it goes haywire.
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I have to confess that I don't use it very often but I will keep an eye out for this. It has to be their server pushing the wrong data to you.
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Evuguy wrote:
I have to confess that I don't use it very often but I will keep an eye out for this. It has to be their server pushing the wrong data to you.
I'm not sure who Channel Master uses to send this info. I do know that it only feeds once a week - sometime early Thursday. If you miss it, you can't get it again until the following Thursday, and you're stuck with whatever the local station puts out. It never used to be like that, but CM discontinued the model, told me they would also be stopping the guide updates years ago, but they still continue for some reason
It's a bit of an odd service but it seems to work and once a week is plenty for me to set up what I want to record. But if the power to the unit ever goes out, you're essentially on a day-to-day only program guide until the next update.
If I see that weird listing again, I'll try and get a pic of it and post it here.
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According to one explanation I read, machines like Tablo or a DVR+ often draw their listings from a national service that has crossed up a setting or a zip code, leading to this result. They likely either don't know about it - or don't really care.
If that's true, I'm guessing this isn't the only area where people see this.
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Hi RA. So, I took a look this evening and noticed WKBW's 11pm news has no info. In other words, WKBW is not sending any EPG event details on their ATSC stream for this program. I'm wondering if this is where you might see EPG data creep in from other regions, as the CM box may try and fall back on the Internet EPG data.
Just for a test, you can try doing a soft reset of the box by holding the front power button until the LED changes from blue to bright red. The box will then reboot and purge all the stored EPG data. Your EPG data will then strictly be what is sent on the ATSC streams until the next push on Thursday. You will also lose your channel icons.
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Yes, my box has a "refresh guide option," which I'm assuming is the same thing you're talking about.
It does pretty much what you suggest, but being that it's only Monday, I'm not prepared to lose everything in the guide just to test this out. It actually used to download the guide all over again, but Channel Master told me that service was discontinued a few years ago and it basically just wipes everything out now.
Too bad. It used to come in handy when you missed the hit.
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Bell had some issues also:
From their Facebook page:
"Some Bell Satellite customers may be experiencing issues with the on-screen guide. Our team is actively working to restore full functionality as quickly as possible. Thank you for your patience and understanding. We’ll share updates as soon as they’re available."
(the problem has been resolved)
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On CBC News Network on Shaw cable in Vancouver, Power & Politics shows as “Local news program covering Savannah’s political landscape and key issues.”
And when Canada Tonight with Travis Dhanraj was still on, the same IPG described it as a former program hosted by Bill Good and Tony Parsons from 1994-2001. (Canada Tonight was the national newscast from BCTV that aired in Ontario on CHCH under WIC ownership.)
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It is! Right after the Gulf of Mexico is mentioned, BTW, that’s what I still call it!
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Bell’s Satellite TV program guide has the wrong listing each day at 4:30 EST for CTV Halifax. It lists CTV Atlantic from 4-5 pm and will not record CTV National News with Sandie Rinaldo. The program listing on Bell Fibe is correct and you can set a timer for the CTV National News at 4:30. I’ve brought that to their attention but no one cares.
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Here are photos of the Bell Satellite and the Bell Fibre guides
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