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May 20, 2025 6:11 pm  #1


Did CTV Toronto Break The Law While Reporting This Story?

I like to switch around during the 6 PM news to see what everyone is doing. And that's where I caught an interesting and huge difference on one of the worst stories in recent days - the death of three young children at the hands of an alleged drunk driver on the weekend. You've likely heard about this awful tale by now. 

What caught my eye (and ears) was what I saw on Global and CTV on their respective Tuesday night's 6 PM. 

On the former, veteran reporter Catherine McDonald told viewers the family members could not be identified due a court-ordered publication ban. 

Meanwhile, at almost the same time over on CTV Toronto, Beth McDonnell was not only ID-ing the late family members, but showing their pictures and publicly naming them on air. They also had an interview with a cousin, which would also identify the family. 

So which one is it? There's either a publication ban or there isn't. Somebody really screwed up here and didn't get the memo. My guess is it was CFTO, because McDonald is a veteran crime reporter and she doesn't usually make that kind of mistake. Should be interesting to see what, if anything, happens after this.

 

May 20, 2025 7:00 pm  #2


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Their faces were shown on CBC on Monday, though The National on YouTube does not show this. I didn’t catch if the names were identified in the broadcast.

 

May 20, 2025 7:04 pm  #3


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Ironically, I believe Global used the pictures and the names on their noon newscast, which was likely before the judge's ruling. CFTO didn't have it on that earlier show. Things were completely reversed on their respective 6 o'clock programs.

My suspicion: McDonnell may not have gone to court, which I think McDonald did, so word never got to her. My guess is they won't be showing or IDing anyone again until the ban is lifted. 

What's equally telling, though, is this story on the CTV Toronto website, which notes the publication ban on the names in its copy. So how did it get on their 6? Equally puzzling, it names the aunt, which could lead to the identity of the family involved. 

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May 20, 2025 7:57 pm  #4


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Sounds like typical failings in reporting due to lack of training and experience.
So few reporters are allowed to spend years working a "beat" these days meaning reporters with little or no experience ending up covering stories they just don't have expertise in.
Shame.
 

 

May 20, 2025 8:09 pm  #5


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Who would have to be notified for CTV to be punished and what would said punishment be?

 

May 21, 2025 7:52 am  #6


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Here is the Tuesday CityNews Toronto 6pm lead.  Reporter identifies all.

https://youtu.be/N3wGXsjn0vk?si=6E-4SqytIcJ9bl3h

 

May 21, 2025 8:16 am  #7


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67GreenRambler wrote:

Here is the Tuesday CityNews Toronto 6pm lead. Reporter identifies all.

https://youtu.be/N3wGXsjn0vk?si=6E-4SqytIcJ9bl3h

The fact this is still online now that they surely know a judge has declared a publication ban on an I.D. is simply incomprehensible. 

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May 21, 2025 8:21 am  #8


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This reminds me of a story I dealt with once a long time ago. Cops were looking for a young offender (someone under 18) for a violent crime, and had received special judicial permission to show his name and picture for 48 hours because he was considered dangerous to the public. 

We ran it on our 6 PM and other shows until the time ran out and we could no longer I.D. him. But what about our website, where nothing ever disappears? Sure enough, it was still there, and I recall having to go back to the article and completely rewrite it, to take out any hint of the kid's name and delete the photo. It was in a few different stories and was a pain in the you-know-what, but it had to be done to be in compliance with the law. 

The whole thing is pretty dumb, because once the information is out there, it's out there and you don't magically forget that you heard the name or saw the face. But those are the rules and you disobey them at your own peril. Trust me, you do not want a judge angry at you for violating one of their orders!

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May 21, 2025 9:00 am  #9


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RadioActive wrote:

The fact this is still online now that they surely know a judge has declared a publication ban on an I.D. is simply incomprehensible. 

C'mon, RA. POTUS has shown us the way. Respect for court rulings is for losers.

 

May 21, 2025 9:03 am  #10


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Any idea which higher up at Bell Beth McDonnell is related to?

RadioActive wrote:

I like to switch around during the 6 PM news to see what everyone is doing. And that's where I caught an interesting and huge difference on one of the worst stories in recent days - the death of three young children at the hands of an alleged drunk driver on the weekend. You've likely heard about this awful tale by now. 

What caught my eye (and ears) was what I saw on Global and CTV on their respective Tuesday night's 6 PM. 

On the former, veteran reporter Catherine McDonald told viewers the family members could not be identified due a court-ordered publication ban. 

Meanwhile, at almost the same time over on CTV Toronto, Beth McDonnell was not only ID-ing the late family members, but showing their pictures and publicly naming them on air. They also had an interview with a cousin, which would also identify the family. 

So which one is it? There's either a publication ban or there isn't. Somebody really screwed up here and didn't get the memo. My guess is it was CFTO, because McDonald is a veteran crime reporter and she doesn't usually make that kind of mistake. Should be interesting to see what, if anything, happens after this.

 

Last edited by ToRon (May 21, 2025 9:05 am)

 

May 21, 2025 10:56 am  #11


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Dial Twister wrote:

C'mon, RA. POTUS has shown us the way. Respect for court rulings is for losers.

C'mon, DT. Needless politicization.

I caught the tail end of a report on CP24 around 10pm last night. It was a video of a woman upset about about the injustice of this event. Reporter Melissa Duggan came on to say that the person in the video was a relative of the victims. I didn't see or hear a name but a video of a family member has to be as close to identifying someone as you can get.

Again I ask:

Binson Echorec wrote:

Who would have to be notified for CTV to be punished and what would said punishment be?

 

May 21, 2025 11:01 am  #12


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I'm honestly not sure, but I believe the judge could issue sanctions against the broadcaster who breaks his/her ban. That could mean a fine or even worse for the company in some ways, order one of their head honchos to appear before the bench to explain themselves. That would not make for a comfortable day.

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May 21, 2025 11:05 am  #13


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No it wouldn't but I can't help but feel that it would equate to a slap on the wrist, which isn't much of a deterrent.

It's too bad editors and proofreaders are such easy salary dumps.

 

May 21, 2025 1:47 pm  #14


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Have you even confirmed if there was a publication ban? 

 

May 21, 2025 1:55 pm  #15


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Global ran a pic and ID of the kids on their noon show Tuesday, but were very specific to say on their 6 that the judge had imposed a publication ban on the family's identity. Not only did they not repeat the photo on their suppertime show, but they had two relatives of the victims, whose faces were blurred out and their voices altered. No way would they go to that trouble if the court said nothing.

In addition, the CTV Toronto web story also noted the publication ban, even as the TV video aired all the things they supposedly were not allowed to show. 

Dave Bradley on AM640 Wednesday morning told listeners the names were under a court-ordered ban, so they could only refer to them by their ages and the school board they attended.

And finally, there's this sentence in today's Toronto Star story on this tragedy:

"The identities of the three children and their family are now covered under a court-ordered publication ban."

I'd say that's definitive evidence of the fact the no-I.D. rule has been ordered. Not sure how much more proof you're looking for.

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May 21, 2025 2:45 pm  #16


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This is sad beyond words. The 19 year old impaired driver ala Marco Muzzo will be out on a few years. I am not a fan of publication bans in the justice system. Always err on the side of transparency. The family has a gofundme account where all the kids are named with photos. Why was a publication ban needed and granted?

https://www.gofundme.com/f/lavinas-grand-children

 

May 21, 2025 3:43 pm  #17


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cash wrote:

This is sad beyond words. The 19 year old impaired driver ala Marco Muzzo will be out on a few years. I am not a fan of publication bans in the justice system. Always err on the side of transparency. The family has a gofundme account where all the kids are named with photos. Why was a publication ban needed and granted?

https://www.gofundme.com/f/lavinas-grand-children

I agree. But judges seem to love to put everything behind a wall of secrecy, to make sure nothing interferes with the pursuit of fairness. There are lots of things wrong with the U.S. justice system, but I don't believe they do this. 

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May 22, 2025 8:35 pm  #18


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I've been following this blackout as well. Monday's Star had 3 of the children pictured and they were identified. That would have been printed before the court order on Monday.  As far as I can see, that image has been wiped from Canadian media but as of Wednesday when I last checked, it was still shown on the Daily Mail (UK) website and also the family's Go Fund Me page.  The Daily Mail had more than just the one photo. Clearly, the court order is only observed in Canada, which I think puts our broadcasters at a disadvantage. Perhaps our judges are not aware that foreign media is now widely available to the public. It brings back memories of the Paul Bernardo case and that publication ban, where US media could report it and Canadian BDU's were on the hook to block those parts of the US newscasts.

 

May 23, 2025 9:20 am  #19


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During the Bernardo trial, one of the syndicated U.S. tabloid shows, possibly Hard Copy, did a complete episode about the case. To honour the Canadian Justice system, that episode was not made available to any television station broadcasting within 100 miles of the Canadian border. Those stations received an alternate episode.

 

May 23, 2025 9:26 am  #20


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I remember this differently. The Bernardo episode (I think it was Inside Edition) was shown on Buffalo's Channel 2, but cable companies were obligated to black out that one show on their systems. Any U.S. station carrying the show got the same treatment here. 

Fortunately, we still had an antenna at that time (still do) and we watched it, not only out of curiosity but as a middle finger to the courts and censors, who tried to keep the public from finding out what was going on. Another reason to keep OTA TV!

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May 23, 2025 2:59 pm  #21


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RadioActive wrote:

I remember this differently. The Bernardo episode (I think it was Inside Edition) was shown on Buffalo's Channel 2, but cable companies were obligated to black out that one show on their systems. Any U.S. station carrying the show got the same treatment here. 

Fortunately, we still had an antenna at that time (still do) and we watched it, not only out of curiosity but as a middle finger to the courts and censors, who tried to keep the public from finding out what was going on. Another reason to keep OTA TV!

I’ve read there were Canadians who travelled to Buffalo to buy copies of the Buffalo News to bring back across the border. The Buffalo News reported on the Bernardo trial.

I remember that trial was taking place at the same time as the infamous OJ Simpson trial, and many Canadians lamented in the summer of 1995 how much easier it was to follow the Simpson trial than it was the Bernardo trial.

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May 23, 2025 3:13 pm  #22


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MJ Vancouver wrote:

I’ve read there were Canadians who travelled to Buffalo to buy copies of the Buffalo News to bring back across the border. The Buffalo News reported on the Bernardo trial.

One Uncle of mine worked within a public library system at the time in Western Canada and vividly remembers the periodicals department was actually obligated to physically skim and then cut the articles out of the newspaper for the U.S. and international ones they carried, where those articles reporting on the trial, once received and before they went out to customers! Apparently you'd be flipping through the newspaper with holes in certain pages during that trial.

 

May 23, 2025 3:15 pm  #23


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Talk about overreach from a judge. That's just absurd.

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May 23, 2025 6:09 pm  #24


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RadioActive wrote:

I remember this differently. The Bernardo episode (I think it was Inside Edition) was shown on Buffalo's Channel 2, but cable companies were obligated to black out that one show on their systems. Any U.S. station carrying the show got the same treatment here. 

Fortunately, we still had an antenna at that time (still do) and we watched it, not only out of curiosity but as a middle finger to the courts and censors, who tried to keep the public from finding out what was going on. Another reason to keep OTA TV!

That is interesting because I was on cable back then.

 

May 28, 2025 1:18 pm  #25


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Here is another recent case that was put under a publication ban in Canada by authorities.  It has to do with a restaurant owner in Owen Sound, who was killed back in 2023 when he got into a dispute with 3 UK residents who didn't pay their bill. As a court in the UK (Scotland) was involved in the case as well, the CBC was able to get the case details from them and publish it here. 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/sharif-rahman-death-new-details-1.7541287