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July 5, 2025 12:39 am  #1


CFOS 89.3 testing, I think the date to go live is Aug 1

Think that's what I heard. Weak and mixing with Peterborough. Noted while checking for skip late tonight (there were brief surges into FM but nothing identified).

 

July 5, 2025 12:43 am  #2


Re: CFOS 89.3 testing, I think the date to go live is Aug 1

Saul wrote:

Think that's what I heard. Weak and mixing with Peterborough. Noted while checking for skip late tonight (there were brief surges into FM but nothing identified).

How long until they have to shut down the AM?
 


After all is said and done, more is usually said than done.
 

July 5, 2025 5:46 am  #3


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I think it's normally 3 months, if all goes to plan. I think I heard Aug 1.  But for all I know it's the first of another month.
 

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July 5, 2025 5:58 am  #4


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They don’t have to leave it on for the amount of time they’ve been given, but in this case they probably should. There are radios rusted on to 560 around there.

 

July 5, 2025 7:44 am  #5


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RadioAaron wrote:

They don’t have to leave it on for the amount of time they’ve been given, but in this case they probably should. There are radios rusted on to 560 around there.

Probably one of those models that had only two knobs. CFOS and OFF.  My parents had a similar type of radio in the 60's. Its two knobs were CFRB and OFF.

 

July 5, 2025 7:55 am  #6


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mace wrote:

RadioAaron wrote:

They don’t have to leave it on for the amount of time they’ve been given, but in this case they probably should. There are radios rusted on to 560 around there.

Probably one of those models that had only two knobs. CFOS and OFF.  My parents had a similar type of radio in the 60's. Its two knobs were CFRB and OFF.

Once retired, my father would frequent the garage and yard sales looking for cheap table radios, the type where you could look through the back and see the tubes glowing.  I think he wanted a radio in every room.  Many had a pitifully small tuning knob, and he would take a sharp pencil and mark on the knob the stations he favoured.

Brash teenager me: "Why is that radio humming?"
Father: "AC interference.  It's old, and it was cheap."
Brash teenager me: "No, it doesn't know the words."

 

July 5, 2025 1:47 pm  #7


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RadioAaron wrote:

TThere are radios rusted on to 560 around there.

That's so true. I don't believe my mother ever touched the tuning knob on her radio.
 


After all is said and done, more is usually said than done.
 

July 5, 2025 2:34 pm  #8


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From Radio Station Lounge's FaceBook page: 
"Coming August 1st"


CityNews 24/7: https://toronto.citynews.ca/video/
RadioWiz & RadioQuiz are NOT the same person. 
RadioWiz & THE Wiz are NOT the same person.

 
 

July 5, 2025 2:37 pm  #9


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Radiowiz wrote:

From Radio Station Lounge's FaceBook page: 
"Coming August 1st"

August 1 is just the promo buttons being ready.  They're hedging their bets on the actual airdate. 😁😉

 

July 6, 2025 10:26 am  #10


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No longer the "The Oldies You Want, The Info You Need" tag line.

I wonder if they keep the existing format?

Last edited by darcyh (July 6, 2025 10:27 am)

 

July 18, 2025 8:02 am  #11


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Heard this morning on 560 before just before 7AM: "soon" on 89.3 FM.

Last edited by andysradio (July 18, 2025 9:14 am)

 

July 18, 2025 9:07 am  #12


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I will miss hearing it from long distances on 560...I have had it on even east of Toronto
But I often listen to Remember When on line in the evenings

Is there any information about when CFCO will make the change 
I am assuming that they are shutting down 92.9, but I wonder what their range will be with the Port Huron station being on the same frequency

 

July 18, 2025 9:47 am  #13


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I have occasionally heard CFOS in North York an hour or two after sunset. Someone forget to change power and pattern? 

 

July 18, 2025 11:30 am  #14


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Unless they are in a rush... they should likely take the full 3 months.... once down to the last 30 days, run a loop to direct any leftover listeners to the new FM home.   Habit is a hard thing to break... and if they do it too fast, people will assume 560 just left the air... and not go looking for them.   Any of these moves typically go well with a transition period and looped audio to push listeners over. 

 

July 18, 2025 11:35 am  #15


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Yes, so long as the new FM is keeping a similar format.

If they were going alternative rock or something there’d be no need to keep the AM on at all.

 

July 18, 2025 12:39 pm  #16


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I grew up near Owen Sound, within sight of their towers.

I recall when they moved from 1470 to 560. They gave notice of the change over the air for a few weeks. Then, on the day of the switch, they did it in the middle of the day and made a ceremony of it.


After all is said and done, more is usually said than done.
 

July 18, 2025 12:54 pm  #17


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CFOS  moved from 1470 to 560 in 1958. CHOW in Welland signed on to 1470 in 1957. For that year, I imagine both stations had directional signals.

 

July 18, 2025 10:11 pm  #18


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mace wrote:

CFOS  moved from 1470 to 560 in 1958. CHOW in Welland signed on to 1470 in 1957. For that year, I imagine both stations had directional signals.

When they were on 1470 they were at really low power (I seem to recall about 200 W)
Long before CFOS even planned to move down the dial to 560 my parent's radio and many other radios around Owen Sound could already hear it on 560. It was some kind of image
455 KHZ IF X 2 = 910 KHZ. 1470 minus 910 = 560.
 


After all is said and done, more is usually said than done.
 

July 22, 2025 9:32 am  #19


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Im living in Barrie and pick up 560 fairly well at all times, it will be sad to lose it.  Good oldies station and sounds very old school even when they do their chime "CCCCCFOOOOHHHH SSSSSS" 

 

July 28, 2025 1:40 pm  #20


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Saul wrote:

I think it's normally 3 months, if all goes to plan. I think I heard Aug 1.  But for all I know it's the first of another month.
 

It is indeed this coming Friday, August 1st, right after the 8 AM news, according to Bayshore Broadcasting. The two will simulcast on both AM and FM until the end of October. Following that, after 85 years on the AM band, 560 will fall silent. 

And as for the format? According to the P.D., it will mostly stay the same - the greatest hits from the 60s until around 2001. But references to oldies will not be a part of their future sloganeering. 

“For a long time we have said, ‘The oldies you want the info you need on CFOS,’ and certainly we’ve lived by that, but the positioning statement that we are using going forward —and we put a lot of thought into this and everybody at the company had some input on it—- is ‘Putting Grey Bruce first.’

The station explains that while 560 could be heard in places like Toronto and even the U.S., it didn't always propagate so well to the local area after pattern change at night. That will no longer be the case with the FM signal. 


After 85 Years, 560 CFOS Flipping From The AM Waves To FM

 

July 28, 2025 4:49 pm  #21


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RadioActive wrote:

Saul wrote:

I think it's normally 3 months, if all goes to plan. I think I heard Aug 1.  But for all I know it's the first of another month.
 

It is indeed this coming Friday, August 1st, right after the 8 AM news, according to Bayshore Broadcasting. The two will simulcast on both AM and FM until the end of October. Following that, after 85 years on the AM band, 560 will fall silent. 

And as for the format? According to the P.D., it will mostly stay the same - the greatest hits from the 60s until around 2001. But references to oldies will not be a part of their future sloganeering. 

“For a long time we have said, ‘The oldies you want the info you need on CFOS,’ and certainly we’ve lived by that, but the positioning statement that we are using going forward —and we put a lot of thought into this and everybody at the company had some input on it—- is ‘Putting Grey Bruce first.’

The station explains that while 560 could be heard in places like Toronto and even the U.S., it didn't always propagate so well to the local area after pattern change at night. That will no longer be the case with the FM signal. 


After 85 Years, 560 CFOS Flipping From The AM Waves To FM

I quite admire Bayshore and CFOS. Given the limitations of the 560 AM signal to the southwest they do a great job with good programming / content. The cost controls are clearly evident in their live programming but they are still a heck of a lot more entertaining to listen to than many other stations. 

The new slogan "Putting Grey and Bruce First" sounds okay but they will certainly not cover Bruce county with the rather anemic 1500 watts compared to the relatively clear 560 AM frequency even at 1000 watts night power. I would expect a relatively strong local signal to fritter out at about Wiarton. On FM 1500 watts effective radiated power at 1000 feet height will go about 30 miles; sure it will go further into a tuned antenna and sensitive receiver but who uses these?

I also expect over time there will be a program shift away from oldies / news. It always seems to happen when a successful AM staion shifts to FM.

At least they will have a smaller electric bill and possible proceeds from selling the transmitter land. I wish them well. If you like the current content on CFOS enjoy it now.
 

Last edited by darcyh (July 28, 2025 5:04 pm)

 

July 28, 2025 5:15 pm  #22


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darcy wrote:

I also expect over time there will be a program shift away from oldies / news. It always seems to happen when a successful AM staion shifts to FM.

 

They said it in the article without saying the words, but they’re moving to Classic Hits. Expect a LOT of 80s

 

July 28, 2025 6:56 pm  #23


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darcyh wrote:

At least they will have a smaller electric bill and possible proceeds from selling the transmitter land. I wish them well. If you like the current content on CFOS enjoy it now.
 

The biggest business up there is agriculture. The transmitter land would be worthless for that. It's all rocks. Some of their ground radials are laying on the surface because it was impossible to bury them.
 


After all is said and done, more is usually said than done.
 

July 29, 2025 8:41 am  #24


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turkeytop wrote:

I grew up near Owen Sound, within sight of their towers.

I recall when they moved from 1470 to 560. They gave notice of the change over the air for a few weeks. Then, on the day of the switch, they did it in the middle of the day and made a ceremony of it.

Reading the thread, I was moved to listen in over the web to the broadcast of the station.  There's something both reassuring and charming about the ads for local businesses that small town radio stations bring.  I hope that this aspect of radio in small towns will always be around.

 

July 29, 2025 8:54 am  #25


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I will try to listen on 560 on the old signal as long as I can


If what is being said is correct,  I wonder if the weekday evening show, Remember When, will still be on the new FM station.
I listen to it on line several nights a week
I know 630 CFCO is going to be FM only, but what about Blackburn's   CHOK Sarnia which has been on 1070 AM since 1946.........they presently have an FM repeater at 103.9






 

 

July 29, 2025 1:51 pm  #26


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Too bad - the golf cart and its only AM radio is set to 560 at my property in the Midland Ontario area and it comes in clear.  Now what... its all talk radio on AM. 

 

July 29, 2025 2:06 pm  #27


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Maybe AM740, which has an amazing signal? 

 

July 29, 2025 6:19 pm  #28


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Maybe it was the conditions today, but I was getting the new CFOS at 89.3 clearly between Mount Forest and Durham on hwy 6.  In fact I was pulling in the station reasonably well in Mount Forest.  Also CFOS-FM came in clearly in Harriston.  I know at their power they wouldn't penetrate buildings in these communities, but in the car with the atmospheric conditions today, they were coming in pretty good.  My car has a  good FM tuner as well.   

Last edited by paterson1 (July 30, 2025 7:02 am)

 

July 29, 2025 10:51 pm  #29


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I have heard CFOS FM along line 86 right throughWingham all the way to Mt. Forest no problem. Country 93 is in the same antenna and much higher power and in some spots I can not here them but CFOS comes in being a low power it is a clean channel.

 

July 30, 2025 9:08 am  #30


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Good to hear - I wonder how it will be in Barrie?  Their AM signal reaches decently but I think the escarpment of Blue Mountain will block the low power FM.   Why so low power?  A station like that with its coverage and history should have atleast been 20,000 watts lets say on FM.