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December 3, 2024 9:57 am  #1


The Daytime Soap Opera Isn't Dead Yet

While there are only three daytime dramas remaining on broadcast television [Young&The Restless, Bold&Beautiful and General Hospital] one of them will be in production for at least four more years. CBS has renewed it through 2027-28. It has been the top rated soap since 1988. With only two competitors now, that doesn't seem like much of a victory. However, 36 years ago when it became the most watched daytime drama, there were twelve others competing for viewers. In 1969-70, there were nineteen of them in production, predominantly airing between noon and 4pm.

 

December 3, 2024 10:48 am  #2


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At their peak in the 80's and 90's a few afternoon soaps had ratings of up to 16 million viewers on American TV.  Since they were so popular, evening hour long soap operas were developed.  Shows like Dynasty, Falcon Crest, Dallas, Knots Landing and others were over the top, campy, trashy, celebrated wealth and success, and audiences couldn't get enough.

Dallas really got the evening soap opera era started when it had it's debut in 1978 on CBS. 

 

December 3, 2024 11:59 am  #3


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All of which is not the biggest news. CBS is readying its first new soap opera in years, a mostly all-Black series called "Beyond The Gates." It's set to premiere on Feb. 24, 2025 at 2 PM. I believe it's the first new such show in the genre on any network in decades.

Beyond The Gates 

 

December 3, 2024 7:18 pm  #4


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When I was a child my mother and grandmother used to watch back-to-back soaps.
They are now long gone, but they were, "The Edge of Night," and "The Secret Storm," 
Later on when I was in university quite a few students at UBC were really into "The Young and the Restless," not because they really liked the soap, but because they found it funny and campy.
 

 

December 3, 2024 7:43 pm  #5


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mace wrote:

While there are only three daytime dramas remaining on broadcast television [Young&The Restless, Bold&Beautiful and General Hospital] one of them will be in production for at least four more years. CBS has renewed it through 2027-28. It has been the top rated soap since 1988. With only two competitors now, that doesn't seem like much of a victory. However, 36 years ago when it became the most watched daytime drama, there were twelve others competing for viewers. In 1969-70, there were nineteen of them in production, predominantly airing between noon and 4pm.

Which one of them then, and was it named after a Prism song?

 

December 4, 2024 9:53 am  #6


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newsguy1 wrote:

When I was a child my mother and grandmother used to watch back-to-back soaps.
They are now long gone, but they were, "The Edge of Night," and "The Secret Storm," 
Later on when I was in university quite a few students at UBC were really into "The Young and the Restless," not because they really liked the soap, but because they found it funny and campy.
 

When the Edge of Night premiered in 1956, it aired at 4:30pm which really was, in the winter, the edge of night. In 1963 it moved to 3:30pm which I remember because that is what my mom was watching when I got home from school. The only thing I remember about Secret Storm was the intro had waves crashing on to a rocky shoreline.

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December 4, 2024 10:02 am  #7


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RadioActive wrote:

All of which is not the biggest news. CBS is readying its first new soap opera in years, a mostly all-Black series called "Beyond The Gates." It's set to premiere on Feb. 24, 2025 at 2 PM. I believe it's the first new such show in the genre on any network in decades.

Beyond The Gates 

This afternoon sudser is replacing The Talk which airs its final episode on December 20. I wonder what CBS will air in the 2pm slot for the next two months? A possible temporary return to local affilliates?

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December 4, 2024 10:13 am  #8


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newsguy1 wrote:

.. Later on when I was in university quite a few students at UBC were really into "The Young and the Restless," not because they really liked the soap, but because they found it funny and campy. 

University students are prone to embracing things that allow procrastination from doing their studies.

The number of crappy/cheesy Sunday afternoon movies I watched is a testament to this : )) 
 

 

December 4, 2024 10:37 am  #9


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Ever wondered what Soap Stars get paid. Using the Young & the Restless as an example, if you only have five lines or less you get paid in the $450-$500 range for the episode. The well known stars such as Melody Thomas Scott [Nicky Newman] Peter Bergman [Jack Abbott] Eileen Davidson [Ashley Abbott]all pull in about $3000/per episode. Eric Braeden who has played Victor Newman for 40 years commands about $5000 per episode. That is a quite nice payday with a pretty reliable, steady flow of income compared to primetime where a show can be gone in less than a month.

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December 4, 2024 10:43 am  #10


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DX wrote:

mace wrote:

While there are only three daytime dramas remaining on broadcast television [Young&The Restless, Bold&Beautiful and General Hospital] one of them will be in production for at least four more years. CBS has renewed it through 2027-28. It has been the top rated soap since 1988. With only two competitors now, that doesn't seem like much of a victory. However, 36 years ago when it became the most watched daytime drama, there were twelve others competing for viewers. In 1969-70, there were nineteen of them in production, predominantly airing between noon and 4pm.

Which one of them then, and was it named after a Prism song?

The 1980 tune "Another World"?

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December 4, 2024 1:37 pm  #11


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Prism had a  hit with Young and Restless back in 1980.  The song reached #14 on the Billboard Canada Top 100.  The band also had a #1 song on the  Billboard US rock chart with Don't Let Him Know.  This song only got to #49 here.  Prism had 14 songs on the Canadian charts and 11 in the US.   Young and Restless from the album of the same name..https://www.google.com/search?q=prisim+young+and+restless&rlz=1C1GGRV_enCA751CA751&oq=prisim+young+and+restless&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIJCAEQLhgNGIAEMgkIAhAAGA0YgAQyCQgDEAAYDRiABDIICAQQABgWGB4yCAgFEAAYFhgeMg0IBhAAGIYDGIAEGIoF0gEJMTAxMDVqMGo3qAIAsAIA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:afe40678,vid:_Doi83TOIxM,st:0

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December 4, 2024 7:00 pm  #12


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Traditionally soaps are cheap to make, though not as cheap as in the days of live to air and shaky sets. Modern audiences tend to demand higher production values. I thought Train 48 was a good model - a single set (the train), shows airing the same day they're shot with little if any post and scripts with only a basic outline meaning the dialogue is largely improv. Shame Global didn't stick with it but it would be a great model for a US network to try.

 

December 6, 2024 6:43 pm  #13


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mace wrote:

RadioActive wrote:

All of which is not the biggest news. CBS is readying its first new soap opera in years, a mostly all-Black series called "Beyond The Gates." It's set to premiere on Feb. 24, 2025 at 2 PM. I believe it's the first new such show in the genre on any network in decades.

Beyond The Gates 

This afternoon sudser is replacing The Talk which airs its final episode on December 20. I wonder what CBS will air in the 2pm slot for the next two months? A possible temporary return to local affilliates?

Well now we know. CBS has announced that reruns of the Price is Right will run in the 2pm slot until Beyond The Gates premieres.

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