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SOWNY » The AM Song Version Vs. The FM Song Version. Is Longer Better? » October 28, 2025 11:44 pm

Get a load of the horrible chop and slap edits on this desecration of The Animals classic.






PJ

SOWNY » The AM Song Version Vs. The FM Song Version. Is Longer Better? » October 27, 2025 8:16 pm

In some cases, the artist prefers the single version over the album version. The members of U2 are said to have preferred the "Temple Bar Remix" of "Who's Gonna Ride Your Wild Horses", the version that was released as a single in 1992. I myself prefer it over the weird, screechy album version.

When it comes to single vs. album versions, I also agree that it really depends on the song. Some songs you don't dare take a hatchet to no matter how long they are, like The Who's "Won't Get Fooled Again" (although somebody at the record company did, and the end result was horrendous). In other cases, some songs could do with some fat-trimming and maybe even a little spicing up with a remix to make it a little more flavorful.

Some may argue that the album version is "the way the artist wanted you to hear the song". But if I prefer the single, I don't really care...this is the way I want to hear the song! 



PJ
 

SOWNY » Why Was Tom Rivers Fired As CHUM Morning Man? » October 26, 2025 9:11 pm

RadioActive wrote:

This goes back a ways but even after reading the article from 1982 below, I'm still not quite sure what CHUM's reason for firing Tom Rivers might have been - in the middle of a ratings period, no less. Too many bits and not enough music? A lack of discipline? Failure to follow format changes? They're all used as excuses, but what did they expect out of a morning man?

Whatever happened, CHUM's loss was CFTR's gain. The Rivers flowed over to 680 in 1983, and resumed his morning gig for around 10 years there. Other places he worked in the Big Smoke included CKFM, CHEZ, CJAQ (now Kiss 92.5) and AM640, then known as CHOG. He sadly died of cancer in 2004. 

Whatever the case, and as much as I loved CHUM, I will always believe that firing Tom Rivers was probably the stupidest decision they ever made. When Tom was terminated, CHUM still had a talented pool of jocks for sure, but they didn't really have a "resident funny guy" to take his place, which was vital to most radio stations in that era, or at least music format stations that appealed to a younger demographic. When Tom hopped aboard to CFTR, they had two resident funny guys, with Tom in the mornings and Mike Cooper in the afternoons. That was the one-two punch CFTR needed and the one-two punch CHUM definitely didn't need. Both stations battled it out during their Top 40 years, but this would play out as CHUM's final battle as a CHR station, when they conceded defeat and flipped to their Favourites of Yesterday and Today format in June 1986.



PJ
 

SOWNY » Did CHUM & CKFH Really Censor "Dirty" Rock Lyrics In The 60s? » October 23, 2025 7:46 pm

Then of course, there's the famous CHUM edit of Rough Trade's "High School Confidential":

What's the principal doing with her?
Who's that guy?
Is he ________ with her?
What's her perfume?
Tigress by Farberge
It makes me mmmmmmmmmmmm when she comes my way.  




PJ
 

SOWNY » Founding KISS Member Ace Frehley Dies At 74 » October 16, 2025 10:50 pm

Another rocker that suffered a similar fate was Stiv Bators, vocalist and founder of The Lords of the New Church, who had scored a Top 40 hit in Canada in late 1982 with "Open Your Eyes" (#34 RPM; #21 CHUM Chart).

Bators was hit by a car while riding his motorbike in France in June 1990. He was knocked off his bike, but believing that he wasn't seriously injured, he returned to his apartment and then later died in his sleep as the result of a traumatic brain injury.

Tragic.


PJ

SOWNY » An 8-Track AM/FM-CB Radio? Yep, It Really Existed » October 13, 2025 6:44 pm

You don't get much more '70s than that! Just stick an 8-track of C.W. McCall's "Convoy" in the deck, crank up the volume, and you're cruisin'. 



PJ

SOWNY » Moody Blues' Singer John Lodge Is Gone » October 10, 2025 8:29 pm

DX wrote:

Paul Jeffries wrote:

Also, it's "Nights in White Satin", not "Knights". I used to make that mistake myself. 



PJ

I thought I heard them say "Ni!"

Maybe that was the horse! 


PJ
 

SOWNY » Moody Blues' Singer John Lodge Is Gone » October 10, 2025 11:47 am

Also, it's "Nights in White Satin", not "Knights". I used to make that mistake myself. 



PJ

SOWNY » You'll Never Believe Who Jimmy Kimmel Wants As A Guest On His Show » October 9, 2025 8:24 pm

Wouldn't be the first time, although this interview took place before Trump's first presidency. 






PJ


 

SOWNY » A Weird Quirk Of The New TV Season In Canada » October 9, 2025 10:43 am

RadioActive wrote:

On Thursday, ABC is carrying the new season of "911," immediately followed by the debut of its new spin-off "911: Nashville." Nothing unusual about that - if you want to watch both, they're on the same channel in the U.S.

But that's not the case in Canada. Here, Global has the original "911," but CTV snagged the rights to "911: Nashville." Producers of the shows have confirmed they're actively thinking about doing crossovers between the two shows, once the newcomer gets established. It's always a good thing for ratings. 

But in Canada, that means you'll have to watch one channel to see part one and tune over to a separate station to get part two. Not a big deal, until you realize that, if they do a crossover, one show on one network will effectively be promoting a show an hour later on their direct competition. 

This kind of thing doesn't happen here often. All the Law & Orders and all the Chicago dramas, for example, are on one station - City TV. So two-parters or the continued storylines they frequently do on those shows are seamless for the viewer. Same with the various flavours of NCIS, which all air on Global.

Not so for the 911s. It's a pretty unusual situation and it could only happen in Canada...

The recently cancelled 9-1-1 Lone Star was also on CTV.

Actually, the Dick Wolf dramas used to run into a similar situation in Canada about a decade or so ago. The Chicago shows were on Global at the time and Law & Order: SVU was on CTV, and there were multiple crossovers that involved both franchises.

Also, IIRC, Law & Order: Organized Crime debuted on CityTV when SVU was still on CTV, and CityTV ran the debut episode of Organized Crime against SVU at the exact same time, even though it was supposed to be the second part of the storyline that began on SVU! (Confused yet?)

Interestingly too, 9-1-1 and 9-1-1 Lone Star only had one true crossover event that took place during season 4 of the original and season 2 of the spinoff.



P

SOWNY » Songs that were hits in Canada, but…. » October 4, 2025 7:27 pm

Jody Thornton wrote:

paterson1 wrote:

Most of these I remember and some you don't hear anymore.

Jon and Vangelis with the "Friends of Mr Cairo" also comes to mind.
 

According to Wikipedia, Canada was the only country where it charted, and it was a #1 hit at that!

Some other examples that I was surprised weren't included: Tears For Fears "Pale Shelter" and "Change", as well as Fine Young Cannibals "Johnny Come Home" and "Suspicious Minds". All of those were hits in Canada but failed to crack the Top 40 on the Billboard Hot 100 in the U.S.



PJ
 

SOWNY » Who Is Listening To HD Radio? » September 30, 2025 6:29 pm

I suspect if asked, a lot of people would probably think HD radio is High definition radio. 


PJ

SOWNY » Survey Says Listeners Turned Off By A.I. Generated Audio Content » September 26, 2025 10:25 am

I suspect most radio owners aren't going to pay attention to surveys like that and just plow ahead with whatever saves the most amount of bucks.

Not to mention, listeners don't hold radio hosts in as high regard as they did many moons ago. With a few exceptions, most listeners tend to look upon the DJ as the dummy that talks in between the songs and likely couldn't care less whether it's human or computer-generated.


PJ
 

SOWNY » How is the media covering the Canada Post strike » September 26, 2025 9:55 am

Aytononline wrote:

I tuned into 680 news this morning to see how they were covering the changes at Canada Post and the strike. After traffic and weather they did have it as the lead story, but only 1 short story, no team coverage or wall to wall coverage.
I guess that shows how important Canada Post is to the GTA.

And to the rest of Canada, for that matter.


PJ
 

SOWNY » Why Does CKTB Still Not Have A Website? » September 25, 2025 8:02 pm

torontostan wrote:

Paul Jeffries wrote:

I've seen worse. Zoomer Radio Toronto's old website from a few years ago was not mobile-friendly at all, clearly set up for viewing on desktop only. Zoomer Radio Owen Sound's website is currently like that.

 

They probably have the lowest share of mobile viewers out of all stations

Still, you wouldn't think building a mobile site would be a hard thing to do. I use WIX for my station's website and it automatically builds a mobile version and allows you to fine tune it and the desktop version separately if need be, as do most website hosts/builders. Makes me wonder what they're using.

Plus, you'd think there'd be somebody on staff with a smartphone that said "Hey, this doesn't look right". 



PJ



 

SOWNY » Report Minces No Words On Corus' Bleak Future » September 25, 2025 7:45 pm

So, penny stock, literally.

Still amazes me that AM 640 is still standing (for the time being at least, anyway).



PJ

SOWNY » Why Does CKTB Still Not Have A Website? » September 24, 2025 7:42 pm

RadioAaron wrote:

I suppose this looks good on desktop, but it’s a nightmare on mobile.

I've seen worse. Zoomer Radio Toronto's old website from a few years ago was not mobile-friendly at all, clearly set up for viewing on desktop only. Zoomer Radio Owen Sound's website is currently like that.



PJ

 

SOWNY » Traffic reports for tomorrow should be significant. » September 24, 2025 10:05 am

newsguy1 wrote:

This is the only Rapture I care about.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHCdS7O248g

In that case, the only thing you have to worry about is the Man from Mars who eats cars and guitars. 



PJ
 

SOWNY » Sonny Curtis, Composer Of Classic "MTM" Theme Song & Ex-Cricket, Dies » September 22, 2025 12:10 am

Sonny Curtis also co-wrote "More Than I Can Say", a moderate post-Buddy Holly hit for The Crickets that peaked at #42 on the UK charts in 1960. It would become a major worldwide hit for Leo Sayer when he covered it in 1980.



PJ

SOWNY » "I Asked A 23-Year-Old Why She Doesn’t Listen To Radio" » September 20, 2025 7:42 pm

Dale Patterson wrote:

I asked a 25-year-old if any of his friends listen to the radio. His response: "Nobody in my generation listens to the radio."

Hence the major reason that enrollments are way down for broadcasting courses at most post-secondary institutions, too.



PJ

 

SOWNY » ABC Pulls Jimmy Kimmel "Indefinitely" Over Charlie Kirk Comments » September 18, 2025 8:20 pm

Paul Jeffries
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RadioActive wrote:

I don't think it's hysteria to be worried about the leader of a country - any country - seeking to punish those who dare to criticize him. Look at every Communist regime that's ever existed.

Kind of like former Prime Minister Mr. Nice Hair and Socks. Time will tell whether his replacement is any better, but I am glad that The Bulldog is back in The House to keep things in check.



PJ
 

SOWNY » ABC Pulls Jimmy Kimmel "Indefinitely" Over Charlie Kirk Comments » September 17, 2025 10:38 pm

Paul Jeffries
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I don't remember the exact words, but didn't Jimmy Kimmel originally post something on his X account along the lines of can't we just feel bad that a husband and father lost his life without politicizing it, shortly after Charlie Kirk was killed? Seems to me his comments earlier this week run contrary to that.



PJ

SOWNY » More Layoffs Hit Global News » September 11, 2025 2:02 pm

RadioActive wrote:

“We are applying new workflows and ways of working.”

In other words, more machines and less human beings to come?
 

Also probably means that the humans still remaining will have more "workflow" heaped on them for the same price.



PJ
 

SOWNY » When Jay Nelson Ended Up On City TV » September 10, 2025 10:08 pm

An interesting blog post from 2012 by Pat Begin, aka Scott Carpenter, recalling his memories of the iconic morning man.


https://patbergin.blogspot.com/2012/01/jay-nelson.html



PJ

SOWNY » Mark Volman, co-founder of The Turtles, passes away at 78 » September 5, 2025 6:49 pm

Here's an interesting video where Volman and Kaylan talk about their managerial and legal issues, which lasted from 1966 to 1974.







PJ

SOWNY » Mark Volman, co-founder of The Turtles, passes away at 78 » September 5, 2025 3:48 pm

The Turtles co-founder and singer had been diagnosed with Lewy body dementia in 2020, but continued to perform during the early stages of the disease. 

Volman, along with bandmate Howard Kaylan, joined Frank Zappa's band The Mothers of Invention after The Turtles broke up and also made music under the moniker of Flo & Eddie.


Mark Volman, Turtles co-founder who sang on ‘Happy Together,’ dies aged 78



PJ

SOWNY » New Canadian Face To Join Upcoming Season Of Saturday Night Live » September 3, 2025 12:53 pm

paterson1 wrote:

Paul Jeffries wrote:

mace wrote:

Trivia Question: When SNL premiered in October 1975, what did it replace?

Reruns of The Tonight Show with Johnny Carson, I believe?



PJ
 

Yes, Johnny was pushing NBC to have a new program on Saturday night, rather than just a repeat of the Tonight Show.  He was thought he and the his show were getting over exposed and people would tire of the program.  

Apparently Johnny wasn't too impressed with Saturday Night when it first premiered. I remember reading in Rolling Stone magazine that he was quoted as saying the Not Ready for Prime Time Players "couldn't ad-lib a fart in a bean-eating contest."  But obviously he warmed up to them over the years.




PJ

SOWNY » New Canadian Face To Join Upcoming Season Of Saturday Night Live » September 3, 2025 8:12 am

mace wrote:

Trivia Question: When SNL premiered in October 1975, what did it replace?

Reruns of The Tonight Show with Johnny Carson, I believe?



PJ
 

SOWNY » A Personal Message From Your Moderator » August 30, 2025 10:24 pm

So sorry to hear, RA. My condolences.



PJ

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