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SOWNY » Broadcast Cliches You Just Can't Stand Anymore » April 19, 2024 9:43 pm

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ED1 wrote:

Another one to add to the list...

Subject "weighed in" regarding a topic/controversy.....

Does anyone in the real world actually use this phrase in that context?

Especially when they "weighed in" to help "unpack" all the aspects of the story in order to determine some of the "takeaways".
 

SOWNY » Broadcast Cliches You Just Can't Stand Anymore » April 19, 2024 9:40 pm

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Capricasix wrote:

The overuse of “unprecedented”.

Followed very closely by 'epic" - heard in news stories and show promos a lot.
 

SOWNY » CFRB - And Radio - Needs Some Spot Remover » November 30, 2023 9:08 pm

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Shorty Wave wrote:

Their longest commercial breaks are on the half hour. I timed one break at 7 minutes a few weeks back during Jim Richards’ show.

This is far from being unique to one or two stations. All across the dial you can hear lengthy commercial breaks and usually all around the same time. Somehow the consultants have determined that two lengthy breaks per hour are less of a tune out than more frequent shorter breaks. 
In the case of talk radio it may also be that they don't want too many interruptions to the flow of conversation but it can also interrupt the flow if they don't return for more than 5 minutes.
Several years ago Q-107 went with multiple 2-minute breaks per hour and it seemed to work for quite some time. In the case of music stations this could still be a viable option. That said, there is no easy resolution to it.

SOWNY » The suspense is over » November 19, 2023 2:02 pm

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For those who had been losing sleep over it, wonder no more. CHFI has started their all Christmas programming.

SOWNY » Jeff Woods returns » July 16, 2023 3:49 pm

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The Rock in Oshawa is promoting a new weekly 6-hour show with Jeff Woods starting July 23. It will be called Classic Rock Sunday and it sounds as though it will be what we've come to expect from him over the years. Lots of the big tunes along with stories and interviews. There are still many who enjoy his style and fascinating behind-the-scenes insights. 
It also marks what might be a slight shift for 94.9. For the last dozen years or so the core of their music was from the last 30 years but as of late there seem to have been just a few more "oldies" in the mix.
Then there was the all-Canadian July 1 where they also mixed in a number of older tracks not often heard on the station. 
At any rate, I think Woods' program will be a welcome addition to the lineup.

SOWNY » 92.9 The Grand Gets A Slight CanCon Exception Due To Oldies » May 19, 2023 5:22 pm

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paterson1 wrote:

I think this editing and speeding up of songs in the early 70's is way exaggerated and didn't happen that much. The CRTC also said in the early 70's that songs had to be played in their entirety after some stations attempted to skirt around the rules. 

Weekends between 6 and 9 CHUM no way played 30 songs per hour.  Saturday morning had reasonably good ratings and would often have a full log of commercials along with news and sports. There may have been some editing of songs at some stations early in cancon, but it was not wide spread and didn't last long.

If it were true, there should be airchecks floating around and I have never heard any. Also artists and record companies would have complained and gone to the CRTC or possibly threatened lawsuits if it was widespread on stations and over a long term. 

I  was in radio in the 70's, and it never happened anywhere I worked and we only heard some  rumours of this happening but very little if any proof.   

I wasn't working in radio at the time but as a listener I can confidently say CHUM was stacking Can-Con during the early morning  hours on weekends. At one point I did notice some edited versions being played but that practice didn't last too long. 
CFTR was rumoured at one time in their history to slightly speed upthe songs. This allowed them to fit an extra tune or two into each hour allowing them to claim that they played more music per hour than anyone else. Clever idea if it happened.
 

SOWNY » Rogers Could Debut "RadioGPT" In Canada As Soon As Next Month » March 22, 2023 5:56 pm

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RadioActive wrote:

Just to try to reassure those working for Rogers, the article says it will be rolled out in April, but nothing is confirmed. And I'm guessing like many here that the first uses will be something like a weekend overnight on a station that's already automated and just playing music, liners and commercials. So by adding a "phony host" it won't really change anything. 

It's what happens if this thing becomes even better in terms of improvement that it gets really scary. But it may not be ready for primetime just yet. We'll see/hear what happens in April. 

I also wonder how the audience will react if it gets out that they're listening to a machine, especially if they aren't told about it and find out later. I know I would feel hoodwinked and lied to - not the best way to keep people tuned in. Rogers should be honest and smart about doing this and perhaps by telling the world this is an experiment, the audience might tune in out of curiosity if nothing else.

But trying to sneak this by them? That, to me, is a recipe for a PR nightmare. But maybe that's just how I would feel. Others may not care as much.

This kind f sneaking is but a mere walk from how stations have been using out-of-town recorded voices for a couple decades and most listeners still believe what they hear is live. It will be the same approach - as long as they don't know, why tell them?
 

SOWNY » Is This CFRB's New Slogan? » February 25, 2023 1:39 pm

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Radiowiz wrote:

Too expensive. What about the timeslots where content is Ontario wide? CFRB is not a 24/7 Toronto talk station.

The timing is interesting. As they become less Toronto-centric in their reach they're stepping up the local branding. I've noticed for the last while they also I.D. the station as "Newstalk 1010 Toronto".
 

SOWNY » Mark Burns? » January 17, 2023 6:16 pm

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unclefester wrote:

As stated in the "parts company" newspaper article Burns was an American.

I believe Burns came to Canada to avoid the draft during the Vietnam war. One of a handful who ended up in broadcasting

Bob Karsten was another American who came north to avoid military service. Karsten anchored the CBC 11 p.m. television national newscast one night years back as a last minute fill-in. I had worked with him earlier in his career & was floored to see him at the anchor desk. I made a call to the CBC studios that night after he signed off and managed to reach him. Told him he had done a great job!   

Andy Barrie was also in that group of migrants. He arrived at CJAD around 1970. He built up a popular following in middays before eventually moving to Toronto where he enjoyed a long and successful run at places like CFRB, Global TV and finally mornings at CBC. prior to retirement.

 

SOWNY » Why is CHFI still playing Xmas music? » December 29, 2022 8:36 pm

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RadioActive wrote:

Just checked a few posts from years past. While it's impossible to determine exactly which day the Yule gruel stopped back then, all the records indicate it was gone sometime around or before Dec. 31st. So it likely means there's not much more to go. Even if you like the stuff, who really wants to listen to All Christmas music on New Year's Eve?

In recent years they usually put away the festive faves after December 26. This year they see a need for a longer spell as they also began playing it earlier than they had in other years.

SOWNY » Summer ratings » September 9, 2022 5:20 pm

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RadioActive wrote:

I even heard a promo telling people to tune in to sister CKNW for talk, when they were finished listening! Who runs an announcement encouraging you to tune out? What a bizarre station and how sad, considering the old inhabitant of that frequency, CKLG, was once a pioneer B.C. Top 40 outlet.

Very common for stations to plug their brother outlets in a market to try to keep listeners within the fold when they want something different. It's sound marketing strategy.

SOWNY » Lisa LaFlamme To Anchor CityNews Coverage Of Queen's Passing » September 9, 2022 5:08 pm

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Opportunism, pure and simple but that's not a criticism. Likely everyone else here expected someone would jump at the chance to capitalize on the mileage this has racked up. Good on them. 

SOWNY » Lisa LaFlamme To Anchor CityNews Coverage Of Queen's Passing » September 9, 2022 5:06 pm

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RadioActive wrote:

In a major coup, CityNews has jumped in to hire fired CTV anchor Lisa LaFlamme to helm its coverage of the Queen's passing. She will be reporting live from London for City stations across the country. 

"Acting as a special correspondent to CityNews, renowned Canadian journalist Lisa LaFlamme will be in London leading the CityNews coverage. She will provide daily reporting for all newscasts on television and radio as well as make regular appearances on Breakfast Television.

It's kind of an in-your-face move aimed at CTV, and it will be fascinating to see if it causes a viewership spike for City TV. It's also slightly ironic, considering City TV newscasts no longer have an actual anchor. 

Lisa LaFlamme to join CityNews as lead correspondent following Queen's death

 

SOWNY » "Turn Off the Stereo On FM and See What Happens" » August 26, 2022 11:32 am

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Forward Power wrote:

For its first few years on FM, Lindsay's CKLY was still mono, despite being a music station, but after CKLY was sold to CHUM in 2000-2001, 91.9 finally went stereo, as part of an equipment overhaul. I'm guessing the station was still feeding the transmitter with a mono audio line and/or the old AM audio processor which could not/cannot generate an FM-compatible stereo output.

I did hear form someone who was there at the time that when CKLY flipped to FM the owners of the day did it on the super cheap. Instead of a new site, they put the FM stick on the same swampy site. It had worked well for the AM but was not conducive to FM transmission resulting in a signal that didn't get out much past the city limits.
As part of the major technical upgrades they found a proper site which allowed the signal to reach its full potential including (coincidentally?) reaching Peterborough.
 

SOWNY » Automation Glitches Strike Two Major Stations On The Holiday Monday » August 3, 2022 9:57 pm

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Paul Jeffries wrote:

I remember the first time I heard a station go from a music set to a station ID to a commercial set. It was back in the late 1990's. My initial reaction was, "Did the DJ call in sick and they weren't able to find somebody to fill in the shift?" Later I would learn that would become the norm for many stations from then on.

Actually, I oftentimes hear stations go from a music set right into a commercial block without an ID, and I think that sounds awful.
PJ

I'm not completely sure of the exact ins and outs behind the thinking, but this has become the norm , particularly for the corporately-owned music stations. The practice of having an announcer do a talk break followed by several minutes of commercials proved to be too much for the average listener to sit through. So now they spread it out. At one time it was considered a cardinal sin to stop down, talk a bit then restart the music. It's now the rule. Announcers get to show a little bit of personality, the music flow goes on and now they never talk immediately before or immediately following a commercial break. This creates the perception in the listener's mind that there are fewer interruptions. It must work because it's been template for a lot of stations for quite a few years now.
As an aside, the one thing I have noticed is the personalities are detached from the music they're playing. Often times they don't even acknowledge the tune they just played or are about to play. With some formats this may be okay but with stations that feature a lot of newer music there should be some sort of buzz created by the announcer. I still think that would give radio stations an edge over Spotify but maybe I'm just from another planet :-))

SOWNY » Anniversary Of One Of The Sneakiest Mass Firings In Local Radio » February 12, 2022 1:28 pm

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Radiowiz wrote:

Bentwater wrote:

 

Power 88five was on the air at the time. Rogers just assumed that because 88five is not licenced for Toronto that they could use the name. 
Evanov radio group sued. They won, but went Country anyway shortly after, even though Power 92 already became Kiss after only two weeks.
Funny how the radio business does things some times. lol

This isn't the only time something like this has happened in Toronto btw
94.9 in Oshawa used to be called The Edge...but then CFNY decided to start calling themselves the Edge.
To solve that problem, I do not know if there was a lawsuit, but I do know 94.9 switched their name to Magic @ 94.9. Problem solved.

As I recall from someone who was on the inside at the time, Oshawa was reluctant to change because they had the name first. However, they hadn't trademarked it so CFNY's owners did which forced 94.9 to change.
 

SOWNY » Jay Michaels leaving Newstalk 1010 » January 30, 2022 6:03 pm

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Bristol wrote:

Playing the "Hits"  was never CHOM's mantra.   

That applies to the rock format in general which is not largely hit driven. But, unlike most stations nowadays, CHOM actively solicits listener requests which sometimes takes the sound in an interesting direction and as was mentioned, they play artists and tracks that they made popular in Montreal. When is the last time Q-107 honoured some of the GTA artists they used to play? Names such as Lee Aaron and Goddo come to mind. CHOM goes the extra mile because they are doing what most stations should - being unique to their market. 
 

SOWNY » It's Embarrassing » January 2, 2022 8:35 pm

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paterson1 wrote:

This also applies to some of the on air talent beyond news.  The voice tracking or even live shows of many announcers lacks any personality, fun or humour or any real connection to the audience. 

Whoever is hiring or mentoring the new on air talent seems to be looking for nameless, interchangeable  announcers lacking any personality, humour or creativity.  But most of all, a real lack of any fun on air.

Many programs seem like they are done with minimal effort, minimal music knowledge, and a uncaring attitude about the quality of what is actually going on air.  In some cases it seems like radio has given up altogether, and that is not only embarrassing but sad.

That's one that really sticks out to me on a number of stations. The formula is make a statement, invite feedback, quickly get into a song but say little or nothing about the music. On certain stations in the GTA it's appalling how the hosts show a detachment from the music in that they don't mention the song or if they do there's no show of interest in it. There must be some research that has unearthed some data saying that listeners don't care to know anything about the music they're hearing. Up until not too long ago, passion and knowledge of the music was usually a job requirement.
One embarrassing aside from the world of voice tracking - earlier today I heard the on air host musing about  Betty White's secret to longevity and how she was planning to celebrate her 100th birthday.
 

SOWNY » It's Embarrassing » January 2, 2022 12:24 pm

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Charlie wrote:

But the current self-promotion on 1010 promises loyal listeners that they are the go-to source for all the latest news, investigative excellence and in-depth analysis.  Surely they wouldn't exaggerate.

Perhaps bring those questions to their newsroom. After all  they say that's "where Toronto gets answers".
 

SOWNY » Ra-ra-ra-RATINGS! » September 10, 2021 10:00 pm

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markow202 wrote:

Z103 has a good lead for what is an Orangeville station.   Something has to be done with 102.1 its a waste of a signal at this point.   Q107 is confused in its playlist.   Chum is winning because even I want to hear more upbeat pop stuff in the summer.

Q had tremendous success in last summer's book too. The format lends itself well to the summer vibe. 
Anyone who listens even here and there to both Q and BOOM will find both have quite predictable and repetitive playlists which seems to support the theory many programmers hold that smaller playlists translate into bigger ratings. However, neither station has a direct format competitor in the market. Now in Buffalo, 97 ROCK features a wider playlist and frequently drops in deeper cuts and other cuts seldom played on commercial radio yet has been a consistent ratings winner there for decades. I'd like to see a station programmed with that kind of approach go head to head with either BOOM or Q and see what happens.

SOWNY » Terry DiMonte and Ted Bird Podcast Interview: Radio Days » September 7, 2021 4:05 pm

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Ted Bird hit it right on the money. If you want to find creative, locally-focused radio go to community stations or those owned by the smaller companies. they still understand what makes a winner in the long run.

SOWNY » 3 Local MyFM Stations Changing Ownership On Sept. 1st » September 6, 2021 4:22 pm

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=12pxProgramming wise, have the chains actually tried to retain audience? Beyond cutbacks and networking, I am not really sure what they are doing at all.  Are they now just writing off radio saying that there is no growth, and  basically giving up?  Pretty sad if that is the case, but sadly somewhat Canadian.  Also it confirms that the consultants and accountants are running the show and we know what that will lead to

That essentially sums it up. Subtle name changes to reflect the new focus have been slid in during the last few years ie. words like "radio" or "broadcasting" have been replaced with "media". The big companies see no growth in radio and therefore the only way to increase profit is to cut costs which  means more staff layoffs. 
Only non-publicly traded companies can still recognize employees as an asset rather than a liability and what it takes to make relevant radio. Glad to see a few are still thriving.

SOWNY » Was This Really Canada's First Top 40 FM Station? » August 2, 2021 9:25 pm

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RadioAaron wrote:

RadioActive wrote:

But how then to explain the popularity of WBEN-FM, aka Rock 102, which became a sensation in Southern Ontario when it started playing automated chart hits? I wish someone in Toronto had tried it. It would have been fascinating to see how it might have fared. 

Regulation would have made it impossible. In addition to the aforementioned hit/non-hit ratio, at the time the CRTC dictated talk time, foreground programming, library size, and even whether or not a radio station was allowed to use computer software to schedule music. 

In addition to that there was  a rule limiting plays of non-Canadian songs to 18 times a week which goes right to the heart of what Top 40 radio was all about -  constant repetition of the day's hottest hits. As a result at that time no FM station in Canada could run a true hits only format. Hybrids happened which allowed for playing album cuts by big name artists or adding in non-charting rock tracks to uphold the non-hit rule.

SOWNY » When 640 Battled 680 » June 26, 2021 7:05 pm

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markow202 wrote:

As per CHUM FM history in the Canadian History database website:1984  In September, CHUM-FM began to move away from Album Rock to Adult Contemporary. 

Also figuring into the landscape at the time was WPHD and 97ROCK in Buffalo dropping out of the rock format early in 1985. That left Q107 as the only rock station in all of southern Ontario and western New York. Because of this they began to include a few Buffalo references in their talk as many  Buffalo area listeners had started tuning in. This was the situation for about and year and a half until 97.7 in St. Catharines switched to rock in the summer of 1986. Two years later following a disastrous period as a light AC, 97ROCK returned. I believe just before that WPHD also brought back the rock but what a ride Q had for a while.
 

SOWNY » Is Automation Killing Radio? » May 29, 2021 7:54 pm

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As someone who has worked with various types of automation software I can confidently say that while technology can and does screw up at times it's more often than not the result of human laziness or lack of proper training. Most software will work quite well as long as it has been properly configured upon installation and daily correct data input by the user.
Stations that are content with continual technical foulups are symptomatic of the current state of the business in that many owners don't know and don't care about radio. As long as they can save bucks and ad dollars roll in, life is good.
There are still independent owners who still have a passion for radio and the difference is evident in the end product.

SOWNY » Legendary Montreal Morning Man Leaving After 35 Years » May 28, 2021 9:35 pm

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A true class act. His realness and lack of ego is something not often heard on rock morning shows these days. 
CHOM is one of the few heritage stations having much the same on air lineup for many years. They gave a similar sendoff to 40-year veteran Tootall when he retired a few years ago. It's good to see some legendary stations haven't forgotten those who contributed significantly to that achievement.

SOWNY » Legendary Montreal Morning Man Leaving After 35 Years » May 4, 2021 4:24 pm

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The one thing that really set him apart from the pack was he was about as everyday-average-person in his manner. Unlike many rock radio morning hosts, he never went for outrageous stunts or go for the lowest common denominator topics. He never tried to demean listeners or talk down to them. He may not be the most exciting personality to grace morning airwaves but he didn't need to be. Just being real was more than enough for a couple generations of listeners.

SOWNY » Wally Crouter Profile: No Retirement Plans 5 Yrs. Before He Left » January 3, 2021 7:16 pm

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RadioActive wrote:

I will always believe that the reason Crouter retired when he did was that he wasn't comfortable with the talk format that was instituted at the station in his final years there. The article notes that he liked to walk around the halls during his show and schmooze with his co-workers. That obviously went out the window when the music stopped and outside of news or spot breaks, he was on the air non-stop for the full three or four hours. And you can't really get away with no prep on a talk show. You have to know where it's going and what's coming up next.

That takes a different kind of mindset and while I have no proof, I just got the impression that, after all those years of doing it one way, it just wasn't his thing
 

My recollection is that in his last three or four years his role gradually reduced to being the "throw guy". As they added more features and reports (not to mention increasingly lengthy commercial breaks) the hours became quite crowded and Wally mostly had only a minute or two at a time for himself before having to throw it to something else. That was likely done as a way to ween listeners off Wally as he had probably begun to make it known he wasn't as happy with the format. Not that it mattered because by then his reputation had already been permanently cast in stone.


 

SOWNY » Is This The Worst Week Of The Year For Radio? » December 28, 2020 10:26 pm

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paterson1 wrote:

Thanks for correcting me Lorne.  Didn't know all this time that Percy Faith A Summer Place wasn't cancon.  As I mentioned previously, every station that I worked at had this as cancon, even though it was very rarely played.
 
I can't say I remember or ever heard CHUM playing three hours of cancon on Saturday and Sunday mornings and significantly shorting some songs. I actually only heard a rumour about CKLW doing this to any extent and that it didn't last very long since the CRTC came down on them,

It sounds like you are saying that CHUM did this for quite some time.   It makes sense when they had special programming later in the day on the weekend, which they often did, but not as regular weekend morning programming.  And editing songs or speeding them up absolutely 100% wrong.  

Odd that they weren't hauled in on the carpet for this,  especially when other competing stations in the market weren't doing this. Find it hard to believe that other competitors wouldn't complain to the commission.  And purposely shortening and editing songs on a continuing basis could have opened CHUM up for a lawsuit from record companies, music unions or artists.  Finally weekend mornings with full news and sports on AM radio in the early 70's, especially Saturday 7 to 9am, or Sunday 8 to 9am was not exactly a dead part of the day, so these might not be the best hours to stack up or bury cancon  if that was the intent. 

Yes, it's true. I don't know exactly how many years they did it but it was a good chunk of the 70's and into the early 80's. As for a slap on the wrist, it was partly due to this practice that the CRTC introduced non-stacking rules for Can-Con and also stipulated that if a can-con song was not played in its entirety it is disqualified from the count. One can't lay the blame solely at CHUM's feet, however. Almost since the introduction of Can-Con,  a number of stations came up with creative ways to manipulate the rules to their ad

SOWNY » Short-term formats » December 5, 2020 7:18 pm

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paterson1 wrote:

But by late 1983 FM was really starting to replace AM for music in Toronto and CFTR was starting to eat CHUM's lunch, so they reverted back to a more traditional top 40 sound although still heavier than TR.
 

There were a few factors at play during that time as I recall. CFTR became a lot more aggressive in promoting itself. Then they acquired the powerhouse duo of Tom Rivers in the morning and Mike Cooper in drive. They tightened up their playlist and concentrated mostly on current hits with select gold tunes from the recent past. 
Meanwhile CHUM was still paying homage to its past with oldies all day on Sundays and some gold-based features at different times during the week which served to project the image that they were the station your parents listen to. At the same time the FM side became a competitor as it evolved from rock to pop, causing some younger listeners to migrate.
When Terry Williams was brought in to help turn things around he began to soften the playlist in advance of the eventual format flip in 1986 which left CFTR as the lone carrier of the Top 40 torch until the erosion of listeners to music on AM necessitated their flip.

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