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December 13, 2024 10:32 pm  #2


Re: Jim Waters Passing


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December 13, 2024 10:32 pm  #3


Re: Jim Waters Passing

It is my understanding Jim Waters was also involved with CHOP-FM  Pickering College Radio. A true gentleman. Owner /Operator/ Managers of his calibre  and  integrity are sorely missing in today's business. Condolences to the family and may he rest in peace.

 

December 14, 2024 9:34 am  #4


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As Bristol mentioned, Jim Waters was a true gentleman, much like his father Allan Waters. RIP Jim.

 

December 14, 2024 4:50 pm  #5


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When I started at CHUM on the all night show I was surprised one evening when my regular operator was not in the studio.  It was indeed Jimmy Waters.  He was learning the business from the ground up so he operated my show for the rest of the week. Even then he was incredibly humble and considerate.....even to the lowly all night jock. 

 

December 15, 2024 9:13 am  #6


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The Waters family represented among the last of the truly great radio owners, who cared as much about the quality of what went on the air as the amount of money coming through the door. We will not see their like again. 

My only real beef with the Waters family came via a friend who worked at City TV back in the day. When Allan Waters passed away, it was, of course, a shock. There were immediate rumours that CHUM was going to be put up for sale and no one knew what that might mean for those working there. 

I think it was Ron Waters, another of Allan's sons, who came into the newsroom soon after and assured everyone that a) the family had absolutely no intention of selling CHUM and b) no one would lose their job to a corporate takeover. 

That was reassuring for about a week, but my friend never believed a word of it. Sure enough, it wasn't long after that the announcement was made that CHUM had been sold to Bell and everything was on the line. (It was later bought by Rogers, thanks to a CRTC edict about Bell owning too many stations in the market.)

It took a few months after the Rogers takeover but the job losses came fairly quickly, as always seems to happen whenever Big Red takes over anything. And for better or worse, City TV's news was never the same after that, with the quirky content it used to carry and the original formatics that made it so unique gone forever. 

Today, that newsroom is a shadow of its former self, all of which, in my mind, can be traced back to the death of Allan Waters and the company he loved so much going to someone else who cared more about profits than presentation. 

 

December 15, 2024 9:37 am  #7


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RadioActive wrote:

The Waters family represented among the last of the truly great radio owners, who cared as much about the quality of what went on the air as the amount of money coming through the door. We will not see their like again. 

It took a few months after the Rogers takeover but the job losses came fairly quickly, as always seems to happen whenever Big Red takes over anything. And for better or worse, City TV's news was never the same after that, with the quirky content it used to carry and the original formatics that made it so unique gone forever. 

Today, that newsroom is a shadow of its former self, all of which, in my mind, can be traced back to the death of Allan Waters and the company he loved so much going to someone else who cared more about profits than presentation. 

 
I was working for Citytv when Rogers took over and started swinging their axe. It was brutal and it became fairly obvious to us that Rogers didn’t quite “get” TV, even though they had OMNI. They trashed the newsroom for sure RA, it never recovered, losing or laying off their true talent, in fact, they let Pam Seatle go and realized they were now short staffed, and hired her back, talk about amateurs. They took over a fairly positive work force and made it basically crap, I started to hate going in, like many, but it was a job in a dying industry.

Allan Waters, on the other hand, would go around the station, often with his wife, and wish all the staff a Merry Christmas/happy holidays, big difference in management styles, class vs. crass.

 

December 15, 2024 12:30 pm  #8


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I recall someone telling me Marjorie Waters, Allan's wife, used to come to the annual Christmas party with cookies for the employees that she baked herself. Don't get me wrong - CHUM could get very penurious. But they also genuinely seemed to care about their employees.

Not sure most HR departments do that now. (And they certainly wouldn't make you cookies. Maybe make you toss your cookies! But that's another story.)

 

December 15, 2024 12:38 pm  #9


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One thing that was always interesting about the CHUM organization was the understanding that they rarely had any debt.  Allan Waters ran a tight ship, not necessarily cheap but fiscally very well organized.

Normally they wouldn't buy a station or purchase expensive equipment, expand facilities, unless they had the money to do so.  CHUM as a company usually avoided borrowing money.  They did a few times but normally it was cash up front, and this worked well for them. 

 

December 15, 2024 3:55 pm  #10


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HR Departments are NOT for the employees benefits. They are to shield and protect the corporation FROM employees.

 

December 15, 2024 4:23 pm  #11


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Yes, I'm sure many of us found that out the hard way!

 

December 16, 2024 8:40 am  #12


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RadioActive wrote:

Yes, I'm sure many of us found that out the hard way!

 
Especially in the broadcast industry, I should have studied accounting….