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The guy is from Kamloops and in an astute article complains about how most of the shows that air on his favourite local radio station, CHNL, don't actually come from his home town. He complains it's often the same on stations across Canada, where voices from elsewhere are piped in without having any knowledge or care about the markets they're supposed to be serving.
"I am going to make one suggestion as to what kind of change the CRTC could, and should, consider making as a Condition of License for radio in Canada:
Both AM and FM radio stations are required to have 35 per cent Canadian Content or Can-Con as it is more commonly known, in the music that they play. I’m going to suggest that there be a new regulation – one where radio stations will be required to have a minimum of 35 per cent local on-air content, from people that live in the community, between the hours of 6am and midnight.
If these massive media conglomerates aren’t willing to do that, then perhaps it’s time they voluntarily turn in their licenses, or have the CRTC revoke them."
Without a strong local presence, there is NO reason for anyone to tune in to (local?) radio
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Finally someone has spoken up! I need to write to personally think this writer. It is about time.
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The author of that piece should take a look at the December 2022 CRTC update of the Revised Commercial Radio policy, which makes the following observations:
- The requirement for stations to air a specific level of on-air material that was prepared by local staff from within a station's broadcast area would hurt broadcasters' ability to remain competitive (Section 395). Under pressure from the industry, the Commission said if material is produced "for" a local station to air and contains local elements, it can be classed as local programming. Thus, a host in Kelowna can include some local elements in a segment for air in Kamloops and it would meet the requirements.
- Interesting to note that both Stingray and the Canadian Association of Broadcasters tried to argue that local news requirements for radio were ineffective, and urged the Commission to change the policy to include things like banter among jocks on the air about local events or happenings to fit into the definition of "local news". The CRTC didn't buy that argument, but put off making a decision on the issue (Sections 403-416).
And, as an observation, I note that the author appears to be a local Conservative gadfly who's run both federally and provincially. I thought the Tories were all about eliminating "gatekeepers"?
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I'm not sure his political affiliation has anything to do with his point, which is that too many stations are not serving the communities they are licenced for.
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BowmanvilleBob wrote:
The author of that piece should take a look at the December 2022 CRTC update of the Revised Commercial Radio policy, which makes the following observations:
- The requirement for stations to air a specific level of on-air material that was prepared by local staff from within a station's broadcast area would hurt broadcasters' ability to remain competitive (Section 395). Under pressure from the industry, the Commission said if material is produced "for" a local station to air and contains local elements, it can be classed as local programming. Thus, a host in Kelowna can include some local elements in a segment for air in Kamloops and it would meet the requirements.
Precisely why radio is in shambles
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If you wanted to find the fastest way to put the most small market stations out of business as possible this would be it. And, increasingly, they're *not* owned by the big corps; they're owned by MBC, Vista, etc.
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RadioActive wrote:
I'm not sure his political affiliation has anything to do with his point, which is that too many stations are not serving the communities they are licenced for.
I don't see how, RA. The Conservative Party's policy manifesto clearly states:
"The CRTC’s role in content regulation should be reduced to eliminate duplication where other legislation exists."
But now, you've got this guy stating that the CRTC should have the power to yank licenses if they fail to deliver on local content. So, which is it? Protector of local radio or rubber stamp organization for whatever the broadcasting industry wants?
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I don't think his article made any reference either way to his political beliefs. He simply wants local content originating from the city where his radio station is licenced to broadcast. I kind of like that idea. It's not political. It's what radio was meant to do - serve the place it's licenced for. If they hadn't mentioned his affiliation in the bottom of the article, I wonder if you would have the same impression.
Why does everything here have to get into politics? I'm getting so tired of fighting against this endless tide that who you vote for determines if you like their point, even if it's not relevant to the point being made. As I read the piece, I had no idea whether he leaned left or right until the credits at the end. But having read it again, it seems it has nothing to do with who he votes for. If it had said he was Liberal, would that have made it more acceptable?
This endless division based on party lines has to stop.
The guy wants the majority of local radio to be local radio. I can't argue with that, regardless of how he fills out a ballot.
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Let's dump the 35% or what ever it is can-con requirement and replace it with 35% locally generated content.
I remember a long time ago many AM / FM combination or sister stations would simulcast overnight from midnight to 6:00 am or so. At some point this mostly stopped. Not sure why. Was there a limit to how much time this was allowed. Did the CRTC step in to end it?
These days we have programming in mid-size markets essentially doing the same. CFCA Kitchener and CIQM London have mostly the same programming in the afternoon maybe most of the day.
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Local radio groups that actually have local hosts and programming/promotion seem to do just fine. Bayshore Broadcasting, Blackburn, Durham Radio and Quinte Broadcasting would be a few that come to mind. And various community broadcasting outlets that have a mix of paid on air staff and volunteers like The Grand in Fergus are thriving. These stations are almost all local and even have hourly news during the day.
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Groups like Quinte broadcasting are on the tail end of small market feasibility. The profits are drying up FAST.
It's not about listenership, it's about a fragmented ad market devaluing advertising across the board to the point where a well staffed local radio station in a small market is not a feasible business model regardless of who owns it.
There's no going back on this, no matter how tempting it may be to stick our heads in the sand.
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RadioAaron wrote:
it's about a fragmented ad market devaluing advertising across the board to the point where a well staffed local radio station in a small market is not a feasible business model regardless of who owns it.
Bingo. If I'm an advertiser, I'm much more likely to lean to a social or streaming platform over CHFI for my spend.
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The CRTC should make it as difficult as possible to operate radio stations. Then it will be easier for them to succeed.
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RadioActive wrote:
Why does everything here have to get into politics?
With respect RA, you posted this morning about the latest antics of Ben Mulroney, who gave a highly politicized rant about political correctness and clearly identified a current member of the governing party as responsible for a supposed "cover-up". How is this not political?
Politics is a fact of everyday life in this country. The man who wrote the article (along with many other people here it seems) clearly wants local radio to include more local content. It's certainly a laudable goal. Yet pointing out that the author supports a political party that would reduce the powers of the one government agency with the capacity to make that goal a requirement is the trigger that sets you off? Perhaps you should be directing your anger there.
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BowmanvilleBob wrote:
RadioActive wrote:
Why does everything here have to get into politics?
With respect RA, you posted this morning about the latest antics of Ben Mulroney, who gave a highly politicized rant about political correctness and clearly identified a current member of the governing party as responsible for a supposed "cover-up". How is this not political?
Politics is a fact of everyday life in this country. The man who wrote the article (along with many other people here it seems) clearly wants local radio to include more local content. It's certainly a laudable goal. Yet pointing out that the author supports a political party that would reduce the powers of the one government agency with the capacity to make that goal a requirement is the trigger that sets you off? Perhaps you should be directing your anger there.
But at no point in his article does the Kamloops guy get into politics. Again, if it hadn't been mentioned in the tag at the bottom would anyone even know? It seems that once the "C" word gets mentioned, everything else is ignored. The man had a point to make and he made it. His party affiliation has nothing to do with it. And also worth noting that you can support any political party and not agree with everything it stands for.
As for the Mulroney thing, other than mentioning Ms. Ien as an aside, I did not get the impression this was aimed at any political party. Of course he's pissed off because someone attacked his wife and cost her her job. I wouldn't expect him to react any other way.
What I find hypocritical about what he did was the Twitter video posted in that Sun article, where he parrots the hope that his position will be given to a deserving minority person. It's only all these years later that we learn how he really feels about what happened. But with the exception of a passing reference to Marcie Ien - who was a host back then and not a politician - not once did he talk about any party or blame Liberals, NDP, Greens, Conservatives, Communists, or any other entity.
Having been moderator on this board for many years, I've discovered that some people just see the world through a political lens, no matter what the topic. I can't change that, but I would like to keep it to a minimum here.
I posted on the Mulroney thing because I thought it was astonishing to hear him trash his former colleagues on air. Rarely done, but worth noting when it happens.
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RadioAaron wrote:
Groups like Quinte broadcasting are on the tail end of small market feasibility. The profits are drying up FAST.
It's not about listenership, it's about a fragmented ad market devaluing advertising across the board to the point where a well staffed local radio station in a small market is not a feasible business model regardless of who owns it.
There's no going back on this, no matter how tempting it may be to stick our heads in the sand.
Disagree. We have small local groups non affiliated with the conglomerates that are doing fine in a tough market. They are still local, cater to the local audience, advertisers, and offer a more full service with local news, sponsorship of events and promotions. These stations don't need to worry about "no going back" because they never left.
BOOM and CHFI always do so well in the ratings and normally have live announcers for their programming even into later evening. So live and local does matter, even for the big guys.
Not so sure you are correct about who exactly is sticking their head in the sand...
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Politics is about more than just parties, RA. It's also about attitudes, beliefs and language. There seems to be a tolerance here for talking about 'wokeism" and "lefties", but when the conversation drifts to naming specific parties and specific policies (right-wing), the pearls are clutched. In short, I think its silly for anyone to talk about the need for the CRTC to revoke licenses for lack of local content while supporting a party that would essentially cut the Commission off at the knees in terms of enforcement.
As for the whole Ben Mulroney thing, I'm sure it was the talk of the ladies who lunch at the Four Seasons in Yorkville for a time back in 2020, but the rest of the world has moved on. I suspect his rant today was more about establishing his credentials with the am640 audience than it was out of any sense of grievance.
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paterson1 wrote:
BOOM and CHFI always do so well in the ratings and normally have live announcers for their programming even into later evening. So live and local does matter, even for the big guys.
Not so sure you are correct about who exactly is sticking their head in the sand...
I was talking about small markets. You clearly have no idea what the financials are looking like. There are markets where every single station is in the red.
MBC and Vista aren't idiots. They're adapting to reality, and that is changing priorities.
Even if smaller markets could afford more local talent, the talent isn't there. Jobs in these markets are sitting vacant. The young broadcasters who are willing to tough it out simply don't exist, and the stations can't afford the veterans.
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I can only speak for MBC.
We don't have a single station in the red.
Many of our stations just finished a record year including our first/oldest market. Last fiscal we hit our 10 year target - 3 years early and having gone through the pandemic. I do not share RadioAaron's opinion from my point of view.
I don't stick my nose in other operators businesses, but my observation would be, the independent operators that I admire have lots of sales people, and generally 3-5X or more the performance of their competitors who are doing whatever it is they do.
My final thought is radio enjoyed pretty hefty margins for many years. Since we started in 2004 - we've always done really well. Our margins are not the good old days of radio (we never experienced it anyway) BUT - they are usually better than most businesses in our size of markets. You just have to work hard no different than our customers work hard in their categories.
Radio ran (what I would call) properly is still a very good business.
In 20 years - will people still want local news in their community. Yes.
In 20 years - will people still want to attend cool events in their community. Yes
In 20 years - will people still want to support charity events in their community - Yes.
In 20 Years - will businesses still need help with marketing, ideas, community connection. Yes.
That's what we do. It's possible our towers may be replaced by streams, or our digital news sites... that's fine - we earn our living by helping others succeed via our platforms. So our runway is long as long as we deliver.
My 2 cents. Now we can all patiently wait for RadioAaron to tell me I'm wrong ;)
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I don't think you're wrong at all. You've found a way to make it work in the current environment; but that doesn't include live and local announcers in all the markets, which is the original point.
Like I said, a *fully staffed," station in the way it would be interpreted here, in a small market isn't possible.
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In 20 years of asking our audience why they listen. The answers are always as follows no matter the market or format.
1. Local news
2. The music.
3. Contests and promotions.
4. Announcers
We staff accordingly. If the audience said polka at #1 - we would have polka.
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I was talking about small markets. You clearly have no idea what the financials are looking like. There are markets where every single station is in the red.
Yes I know you were talking about small markets and so was I. I actually do know of one smaller independent broadcast group that is more financially secure than they have ever been. They have been around for about 40 years. This company has live local news, mostly live programming daytime, lots of community service with contests, sponsorships and promotions. Most of all they are always local.
Nice to hear that Jon's MBC stations are also doing so well. Another local focused independent that has a long history of being successful.
I was making the point with CHFI and BOOM the fact that they generally program with live announcers and are usually fighting with each other and maybe Radio One for the top spot in Toronto. Radio One is mostly live, at least daytime, and CHFI still has news updates. That's why I mentioned that live and local should matter for the big guys too because CHFI and BOOM would be the proof.
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