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February 6, 2017 9:31 pm  #1


Bell Claims CTV Super Bowl Ratings Down 39% Thanks To No Simsub

Bell is claiming an “I told you so” after overnight ratings show their numbers for Sunday's Super Bowl were down nearly 40%. But because Nielsen doesn’t rate how many Canadians may have been watching on Fox, there’s no sure way to know how many viewers it actually lost to the CRTC decision. Still, that’s not likely to stop Bell from using the data in court to try and ensure the situation doesn’t happen again next year.  

Bell’s Super Bowl ratings drop 39 per cent as CRTC ad policy takes effect 

Bell made a big deal of holding huge giveaways to try and bribe audiences not to change the channel. But it turns out that may have backfired on them, too.

From the Globe & Mail article:
  
“…the contest turned into a PR headache for Bell Media, as people took to social media to complain that their entries were not going through. Some entrants who followed the instructions to enter by text message received replies saying, “unfortunately your entry was received outside the contest entry time period,” even though they said they had sent in their entries immediately after instructions appeared on-screen.
 
On Monday, a Bell spokesperson explained that there was a glitch with the contest’s text replies – when replies were delayed, they incorrectly sent the message above, even though the person’s entry had been received and registered. The company says this glitch was fixed by the second quarter.”

 
You might think that with so much at stake, they would have had all the bugs worked out by the time of the big broadcast. Maybe they can blame the CRTC for that, too. 

 

February 6, 2017 11:34 pm  #2


Re: Bell Claims CTV Super Bowl Ratings Down 39% Thanks To No Simsub

Oops.  Whoops.  So it goes. 

They're just a telephone company.  They don't know radio, TV OR promotions. 

"Eyyyyyye'm sawrreeey...The numberrrr You have dy-ald is No lawnger in serrrrrrrrrrrvissss."  That doesn't work on television.

I guess their credibility must have dropped a further 40%

 

February 7, 2017 1:47 am  #3


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No sympathy...none.


  
 

February 7, 2017 8:16 am  #4


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I have no love for the big telecommunications companies but this one perplexes me.  Why single out Bell and one particular event?  Either simsub everything or don't.  It's an arbitrary and authoritarian ruling from the CRTC and only undermines the legitimacy of the commission.

Last edited by Leslieville Bill (February 7, 2017 8:41 am)


- Not an industry person.  Just a guy with a love of Toronto radio. 
 

February 7, 2017 1:51 pm  #5


Re: Bell Claims CTV Super Bowl Ratings Down 39% Thanks To No Simsub

Bentwater wrote:

    Time to pull licenses and hand them back to the real owners of those frequencies rather than leaving them with the tenants  

Would Jim Waters take CHUM back if it was handed to him?   How about Ian Greenberg and Astral?          
 

 

February 7, 2017 3:13 pm  #6


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I personally want to thank my overlord government rulers and their CRTC minions for making Bell Media feel some pain....I watched the game on FOX, caught some good commercials, did not miss a single second of action because a producer forgot to press a button after the break, missed all the horrible CTV promos, did not have to watch TSN sportscasters/teleprompter readers pretend to be comedians for the sake of a lame Bell contest designed to keep viewers they knew would not be there en masse....no tears shed...at all.

 

February 7, 2017 9:46 pm  #7


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Cdn. TV journalist Bill Brioux is skeptical about some of Bell's claims. Here are the numbers he presents from the triple play of CTV, CTV Two and TSN:

CTV: 2,912,000 viewers;
TSN: 1113,000;
CTV Two: 446,000.


He then notes that while it's certainly reasonable to believe some of the missing viewers (as compared to last year) migrated over to Fox, he doesn't buy that it's possible so many did that it skewed the ratings by almost 40%. 

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I have not seen a cumulative tally of Fox’s take in Canada Sunday during the Super Bowl game. Drilling down into individual markets such as Toronto, Vancouver, Calgary and Edmonton, there is a bump in local Fox affiliate viewing in all those markets, but not one that would add up anywhere near the 3.8 million viewers one could reasonably assume found the U.S. feed."

So where did everybody go? That's the question that may never be completely answered, but you can be sure Bell will use the info to arrive at the conclusion they want and plead with the courts to reinstate the Super Bowl SimSub next year.  

Bell/CTV hit for Super Bowl loss as many in Canada opt for US ads

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February 8, 2017 3:29 am  #8


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RadioActive wrote:

So where did everybody go? 

A very good question indeed. Does anyone know a bar in Toronto that deliberately set all TV's to only be on Fox?
Most, if not all bars had either CTV only, or both CTV and Fox on. 
Sure, sound might only be on the Fox feed, but CTV was still viewable. 

I don't have the bar facts handy though because I was at home with two TV's on, both with audio on.
 


RadioWiz & RadioQuiz are NOT the same person. 
RadioWiz & THE Wiz are NOT the same person.

 
 

February 8, 2017 6:06 pm  #9


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Old Codger wrote:

Oops.  Whoops.  So it goes.  They're just a telephone company.  They don't know radio  

It's time to push back with ComWave
 

 

March 15, 2017 10:45 am  #10


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The story that will not die is back - and you might not believe who's chiming in this time.

It's no less than J.P. Blais, the chair of the CRTC and the impetus behind the original end-the-simsub-decision. Earlier this month, he claimed there was absolutely no proof that a lack of commercial substitution played any part in the lower ratings for Bell's broadcast of the Super Bowl. 

He also pointed to the numbers for the French RDS actually increasing as evidence there was no effect. 

And he cited increased competition on other channels as another reason for declining numbers. 

I'm no fan of Bell as everyone here knows, but this just seems insane to me. There's little doubt that some Canadian eyeballs went to Fox, given all the publicity this issue attracted.

And French Canadians, especially if they're not completely fluent in English, would most certainly want to watch a station that speaks their language.

And while it's true NFL ratings have been sinking slowly, it's the competition claim I really find laughable. Anyone in broadcasting knows that you don't even try to compete with the biggest sporting event in North America. That's why every other station and network airs mostly reruns or a shlocky movie opposite the game. There's no point in wasting new material that costs a fortune to make when it's clear the biggest audience of the year - even if it's shrinking a bit - is looking elsewhere. 

Same logic goes for the Oscars, arguably the second biggest TV event of the year.

Not sure what Blais was thinking. But if that's his evidence, it surely won't help him in the upcoming court challenge.

No ‘direct’ link between decision on U.S. Super Bowl ads, ratings dive: CRTC 

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