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August 17, 2023 10:40 am  #1


Producer Seeks Viewers Who Watch TVO OTA - But Only Up North

This is a bit of a weird story and I'm not entirely sure what the point is, except perhaps to convince the province not to turn off some of the more remote OTA transmitters for TVOntario. 

A producer is looking for viewers who watch TVO on regular television on Channel 21 for a documentary he's doing. Where is TVO on Channel 21? Turns out it's in a place called Cloyne, Ontario, and no, don't be ashamed if you've never heard of it. It's around Bon Echo and is a bit hard to pinpoint. It's around 265 km and about a 3 1/2-hour drive from Toronto. 

It's a weird topic for a doc, and there's no real explanation why he's doing it, but it will be interesting to see what it's about if he gets it completed. 

 

August 17, 2023 10:57 am  #2


Re: Producer Seeks Viewers Who Watch TVO OTA - But Only Up North

I often pass through this area on the way to and from places like Belleville, Napanee and Kingston, and the tower from which this TVO signal originates is right on Highway 41, at the top of a hill on the south edge of Bon Echo Provincial Park.

The producer had also documented, on YouTube, some of the last years of Global's Bancroft-licensed channel 2 transmitter at Vennachar, not far from Bon Echo; that signal was one of Global's "original six" transmitters from 1974, and it signed off around this time last year. A Facebook post shows that the Bancroft transmitter itself was the same model, an RCA TT-25FL, from start to end, but with some Larcan components installed in the late '80s to enable stereo audio transmission on channel 2.

 

August 17, 2023 11:14 am  #3


Re: Producer Seeks Viewers Who Watch TVO OTA - But Only Up North

Cloyne (which is more east than north) seems like a strange place for a digital OTA transmitter for TVO when larger communities like Sudbury and Kingston no longer have any TVO transmitters, but there was a specific reason why TVO kept Cloyne as I recall.

When the first phase of the digital transition occurred in 2011, the federal government required broadcasters to vacate UHF Channels 52-69, and they also required all transmitters in markets of a certain size to transition to digital. They also required the transition in cities that had two or more originating television stations. There was no initial requirement to vacate analog television outside of those areas, which is why transmitters like Global Bancroft and CJOH Deseronto stayed for a few years after 2011.

Which leads back to Cloyne, where the analog transmitter for TVO was in the Channel 52-69 range - I’m not sure which channel specifically but I want to say 55, but in any event that transmitter was not allowed to operate past August 31, 2011. TVO chose to transition that transmitter to digital instead of shutting it down. They initially kept their entire OTA network operating, using digital transmitters in the mandatory transition markets and in Cloyne, while keeping analog everywhere else. But not for long.

If I recall correctly TVO opted to shut down all of its analog TV transmitters less than a year later, but they kept all the digital transmitters they had just invested in.

 

August 17, 2023 6:52 pm  #4


Re: Producer Seeks Viewers Who Watch TVO OTA - But Only Up North

I have a hard time believing anyone watches this repeater. It is a sparsely populated area.
How do you find this guy on YouTube?

Last edited by andysradio (August 18, 2023 6:23 pm)

 

August 17, 2023 7:10 pm  #5


Re: Producer Seeks Viewers Who Watch TVO OTA - But Only Up North

Broadcast Dialogue had a very, very brief mention of him in one of their recaps. I used that to look for more info. It does seem an odd quest to try and locate people who are watching TVOntario OTA, but stranger things have happened.

Ironically, tomorrow, Friday, is the day TVO workers could walk off the job, so I'm not sure if anyone will be watching them then, analog, digital or otherwise, although I expect management will find a way to keep it going if it comes to that.  

I believe this is his site, although there's not that much there. 

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August 17, 2023 7:40 pm  #6


Re: Producer Seeks Viewers Who Watch TVO OTA - But Only Up North

andysradio wrote:

I have a hard time anyone watches this repeater. It is a sparsely populated area.
How do you find this guy on YouTube?

Here's his YT channel... https://www.youtube.com/@ManifestationTV
...and a brief winter clip from the Global tower - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_agEZieZdg