The Southern Ontario/WNY Radio-TV Forum » Winter PPM

RadioAaron · March 8, 2023 8:06 pm

A25-54.

98.1 CHFI   12.6
boom 97.3   10.2
CBC Radio One   8.8
102.1 The Edge   7.4
CityNews 680   7.1
KiSS 92.5   7.1
CHUM 104.5   6.4
999 Virgin Radio   6.1
Z 1035   5.3
Q107   4.6
INDIE 88.1   4.2
Classical 96.3 FM   2.0
FLOW987   2.0
CBC Music   1.5
Sportsnet 590 The FAN   1.4
News Talk 1010 - CFRB   1.1
JAZZ.FM91   1.0
Energy 95-3 0.9
Lite 88.5 0.8
Global News Radio AM640 "The HOG" Toronto 0.8
93.5 Today Radio 0.7
TSN 1050 0.7
ZoomerRadio AM740/96.7FM 0.3
106.5 Elmnt FM 0.1
ICI Musique 0.1

RadioActive · March 8, 2023 8:10 pm

Did the 640 listing really say "The Hog?" It hasn't been called that since 1995.

RadioAaron · March 8, 2023 8:11 pm

RadioActive wrote:
Did the 640 listing really say "The Hog?" It hasn't been called that since 1995.

No, that's just me being silly since it's the only station Numeris doesn't provide a "name" for

RadioQuiz · March 8, 2023 8:22 pm

Wow.
Q, Virgin, CHUM FM, NT 1010... yikes.

Today FM... who's in charge there?

RadioAaron · March 8, 2023 8:26 pm

RadioQuiz wrote:
Wow.
Q, Virgin, CHUM FM, NT 1010... yikes.

Today FM... who's in charge there?

Q's probably a bad bounce and will mostly recover. Though they do have an issue of P1s moving out of the demo and attempting to stay younger not working as well as they'd want.

CHUM took an absolute beating from Christmas Music.

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RadioActive · March 8, 2023 8:48 pm

David Bray offers a quick glimpse for major markets across the country.

David Bray breaks down the Winter PPM ratings

paterson1 · March 8, 2023 8:57 pm

Look at 102.1 The Edge! What happened? Now they are a contender again. Good thing they didn't take my recommendation and go Country!

RadioAaron · March 8, 2023 8:59 pm

paterson1 wrote:
Look at 102.1 The Edge! What happened? Now they are a contender again. Good thing they didn't take my recommendation and go Country!

See Q but the other way around. It'll settle.

haydenmatthews14 · March 9, 2023 12:39 am

95.3 on 0.9? I did not think that the rebrand in 2019 was going to work. They should have stayed as 95.3 Fresh Radio instead after Tucker and Maura moved on to CFNY 102.1.

Radiowiz · March 9, 2023 1:31 am

paterson1 wrote:
Look at 102.1 The Edge! What happened? Now they are a contender again. Good thing they didn't take my recommendation and go Country!

Nice numbers, but what are the morning numbers like? It sure would be nice to see higher morning numbers for Edge than Virgin...just to make a point that maybe Virgin never should have let them go?

I don't know...just sayin'...

Radiowiz · March 9, 2023 1:46 am

RadioQuiz wrote:
Wow.
Q, Virgin, CHUM FM, NT 1010... yikes.

Today FM... who's in charge there?

Stingray just might be operating on a different perspective that helps them avoid the tax man.
Deliberately have one station that makes all the money and one that does not.
That way, at tax time they sit UNDER a tax bracket and not (just) over one.

(something like that...)

Walter · March 9, 2023 5:11 am

Newstalk1010 at a paltry 1.1? How the mighty has fallen. They must have done the count during 'The Resh'.

andysradio · March 9, 2023 9:10 am

Newstalk 99 9

Johnny B · March 9, 2023 10:29 am

640 and 1010 continuing to realize that majority Fox News, Sun Media, old man, right wing radio programming is just plain stupid in Toronto....

ED1 · March 9, 2023 11:34 am

RadioAaron wrote:
RadioActive wrote:
Did the 640 listing really say "The Hog?" It hasn't been called that since 1995.
No, that's just me being silly since it's the only station Numeris doesn't provide a "name" for

It's only "640 Toronto" now, they got rid of "Global News Radio" a while ago.

RadioAaron · March 9, 2023 12:41 pm

ED1 wrote:
RadioAaron wrote:
RadioActive wrote:
Did the 640 listing really say "The Hog?" It hasn't been called that since 1995.
No, that's just me being silly since it's the only station Numeris doesn't provide a "name" for
It's only "640 Toronto" now, they got rid of "Global News Radio" a while ago.

I know. Numeris just calls them 640 CFIQ while everyone else gets a name...so jokes.

RadioAaron · March 9, 2023 12:42 pm

Radiowiz wrote:
RadioQuiz wrote:
Wow.
Q, Virgin, CHUM FM, NT 1010... yikes.

Today FM... who's in charge there?
Stingray just might be operating on a different perspective that helps them avoid the tax man.
Deliberately have one station that makes all the money and one that does not.
That way, at tax time they sit UNDER a tax bracket and not (just) over one.

(something like that...)

No.

RadioAaron · March 9, 2023 12:43 pm

Radiowiz wrote:
paterson1 wrote:
Look at 102.1 The Edge! What happened? Now they are a contender again. Good thing they didn't take my recommendation and go Country!
Nice numbers, but what are the morning numbers like? It sure would be nice to see higher morning numbers for Edge than Virgin...just to make a point that maybe Virgin never should have let them go?

I don't know...just sayin'...

New show's only been on for a third of the book. Next one will tell.

RadioAaron · March 9, 2023 12:44 pm

Walter wrote:
Newstalk1010 at a paltry 1.1? How the mighty has fallen. They must have done the count during 'The Resh'.

The Resh got a 1.6

Stinand · March 9, 2023 3:51 pm

I can't believe, 1010 has fallen that far. 640 was always been low, wondering how do the talk station morning shows do ?

RadioAaron · March 9, 2023 5:09 pm

Stinand wrote:
I can't believe, 1010 has fallen that far. 640 was always been low, wondering how do the talk station morning shows do ?

1010 looks a lot better if you look beyond 55. Audience is aging and not being replaced.

RadioActive · March 9, 2023 5:14 pm

It doesn't help that Bell has essentially dismantled the place over the past few years. The audience doesn't have to be into radio to know this old grey mare ain't what she used to be.

Radiowiz · March 9, 2023 8:50 pm

RadioAaron wrote:
Radiowiz wrote:
RadioQuiz wrote:
Wow.
Q, Virgin, CHUM FM, NT 1010... yikes.

Today FM... who's in charge there?
Stingray just might be operating on a different perspective that helps them avoid the tax man.
Deliberately have one station that makes all the money and one that does not.
That way, at tax time they sit UNDER a tax bracket and not (just) over one.

(something like that...)
No.

Yes.

RadioAaron · March 9, 2023 8:51 pm

Radiowiz wrote:
RadioAaron wrote:
Radiowiz wrote:

Stingray just might be operating on a different perspective that helps them avoid the tax man.
Deliberately have one station that makes all the money and one that does not.
That way, at tax time they sit UNDER a tax bracket and not (just) over one.

(something like that...)
No.
Yes.

There aren't brackets on corporate taxes. Also, that's not how tax brackets work.

Radiowiz · March 9, 2023 9:25 pm

RadioAaron wrote:
Radiowiz wrote:
RadioAaron wrote:

No.
Yes.

There aren't brackets on corporate taxes. Also, that's not how tax brackets work.

So why are they doing something that can't even bring in a share in the Toronto market?
A Tax write off makes good sense.

RadioAaron · March 9, 2023 9:28 pm

Radiowiz wrote:
RadioAaron wrote:
Radiowiz wrote:

Yes.

There aren't brackets on corporate taxes. Also, that's not how tax brackets work.
So why are they doing something that can't even bring in a share in the Toronto market?
A Tax write off makes good sense.

No that's not how taxes work.

Occam's Razor applies here: They screwed up.