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March 15, 2022 2:52 pm  #1


"Weather" Or Not - Is There A TV Forecast You Can Trust?

Once again, I find myself unable to trust the weather forecasts I've been hearing over the past few days. I know it's not an exact science but when four different stations give me four different forecasts, I find myself no longer able to trust any of them. 

Case in point: I was told by several telegenic meteorologists and weather people on a number of TV stations that there would be wet snow on Tuesday, but there would be almost no accumulation, except maybe on grassy surfaces, because the flakes were too wet and the temps were too warm. I just came back in from clearing off my driveway, with another shoveling likely later, and I would love to ask these guys their definitions of "no accumulation."

Then there's the temperature, another never-ending pet peeve of mine, especially when it comes to a warm-up. They always seem to get the worst cold right, but as soon as there's a hint of warmth, all bets are off. Over the past few days, Global was predicting a high of 10C and sunny on Wednesday. Now all of a sudden, it's down to only 7C and it's going to be cloudy. What happened to the double digits and Ol' Sol? They never explain the sudden change. 

Then there's Thursday, said to be the nicest day weatherwise of the entire year so far. Over the past few days, both Global and the Weather Network have told me the high will be 17C.

CTV and Environment Canada say 15C.

Another station believes 13C will be the best we get.

There's a significant difference between all those temps. Which is it? I guess we won't know until it doesn't happen. But I won't be surprised if it rains and is -4C.

Don't get me wrong. I absolutely despise winter. especially this one which has seemed endless, and I could live happily ever after without ever seeing another snowflake, And I welcome the warm-up. But can't any one of them ever settle on a firm forecast? It drives me crazy, and as I often say, it's not a long drive! I guess it literally depends on which way the wind is blowing. But stop promising me temps. Mother Nature won't deliver.

 

March 15, 2022 3:47 pm  #2


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In Etobicoke and blinding snow flakes 

 

March 15, 2022 4:05 pm  #3


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My late father used  to say, "The Weatherman is never wrong.  But on occasion his timing is off."

 

March 15, 2022 4:10 pm  #4


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They often say, "it's the only position where you can be wrong 50% of the time, and still keep your job."

Well, that and politicians, who really do care about which way the wind is blowing. 

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March 15, 2022 5:03 pm  #5


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It can be bright and sunny at Yonge and Bloor and snowing madly here in midtown. This is one time where using a weather app that has your location can give you about as accurate a forecast as possible.

I recall listening to 1010 and the on-air host laughing and tearing up the weather report he was halfway through reading ("sunny with cloudy periods") and telling his listeners that there was a major thunderstorm outside of the CFRB studio windows at Yonge and St.Clair and then told people to "govern yourselves accordingly." Honesty never hurts.

Maybe weather reports should come with a disclaimer? Politicians definitely should.

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March 16, 2022 12:42 pm  #6


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To paraphrase Ms. Spears, Oops! They did it again.

You may remember at the beginning of the week, the forecast from almost all sources called for a high of 10C on Wednesday.

The next day, it was pulled down to 7C.

Then this morning, listeners were informed, we'll make it to 6C - with no mention at all of the previous predictions. 

I just watched Anthony Farnell's noon hit on Global. The forecast high for the day is now 4C. What happened to the 10 we were promised? I guess, like the morning conditions, it got lost in the fog. 

They're still insisting Thursday will hit a near-record 17C with sun. (Or 13C or 15C, depending on who you watch.) They'd better come through with this one, or this winter-weary poster will be apoplectic. Don't promise what you can't deliver!

The bottom line is, they do this all the time, but only with warm-ups. The -40C forecasts are always right. And I simply don't believe any of them anymore. 

And by the way, CFTO had anchor weather on their noon show, since Jessica Smith was doing Your Morning. It almost never works and this one was no different. Nathan Downer proceeded to ad lib his way through it, telling us at the end of the 7-Day Forecast that next Monday will party Sunday, and next Tuesday will also be partly Sunday. So does this mean we can all take a long weekend?

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March 16, 2022 1:16 pm  #7


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"What happened to the 10 we were promised?"  We are never promised anything in a weather forecast.  That's why it is called a forecast.  The definition of the word is- a prediction or estimate of future events especially coming weather or financial trend.  Actually whether the temperature is 7 or 10 really depends where you are in the city and not necessarily always by the lake. Generally I find the weather to be pretty accurate.  Naturally the further out (7 or 10 days forecast) the circumstances can easily change.  That is not the forecasters fault. 

 

March 16, 2022 1:35 pm  #8


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Some of what you say is true - it is only a prediction. I remember being told by the meteorologist at my TV station that a 7 day-forecast is often pure guess work and he wished they didn't have to do them. (WNBC-TV in New York does a 10-day, which for the most part, is a work of pure fiction.) But the public expects them and they do the best they can. He added that once you get within a day or two, it should be a lot more accurate.

That didn't happen in this case and it seems it almost never does, but only when they're predicting a warm-up. They nearly always overshoot the temperature, which slowly but surely goes down the closer we get to the date. 

As of yesterday, Tuesday, we were told it would be 7C. Then over the course of the day and during the morning shows, we were told it was closer to 6. Now one says 4. That's quite a difference in the space of less than 12 hours. 

Anyone who makes predictions can, of course, be wrong. But they're paid to be right, and this happens all the time. My point is they can't be trusted.

It's like your boss telling you on Monday that he's giving you a $100 raise at the end of the week. Great news and you look forward to it! A day later, it's down to $50. Not as good, but still a positive. And then on the day you're supposed to get the money, you find out you owe him 20 bucks! That's what this constant misinformation feels like to me. Don't get my hopes up and then be wrong over and over and over again. 

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March 16, 2022 2:07 pm  #9


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I just heard Danny Longo on AM640 give the weather forecast at the end of the 2 PM news.

He says Thursday's high will now be 11C. What happened to the long promised 17C? Who knows!

If these guys were handling my investments, I'd be in the poorhouse by now...

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March 17, 2022 7:03 am  #10


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One last note on this and yes, I've been harping on it way too much, but I find it increasingly annoying that we can't trust any forecast.

680's Jill Taylor went on air Thursday morning to admit they'd blown the predicted high the day before by a wide amount - they had been saying 10, then 7, then 6. It only ended up reaching 2C!

As a result, they're being forced to give away a $10,000+ jackpot in their "Weather Guarantee" contest. I'm not sure if they've ever been quite this wrong, or missed it by so wide a margin. And as usual, they've already pulled back on their contention that it would reach 17C during this day. Now it's only 14C. Anyone want to bet we don't get close to either? 

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March 17, 2022 3:09 pm  #11


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RadioActive wrote:

One last note on this and yes, I've been harping on it way too much, but I find it increasingly annoying that we can't trust any forecast.

680's Jill Taylor went on air Thursday morning to admit they'd blown the predicted high the day before by a wide amount - they had been saying 10, then 7, then 6. It only ended up reaching 2C!

As a result, they're being forced to give away a $10,000+ jackpot in their "Weather Guarantee" contest. I'm not sure if they've ever been quite this wrong, or missed it by so wide a margin. And as usual, they've already pulled back on their contention that it would reach 17C during this day. Now it's only 14C. Anyone want to bet we don't get close to either? 

Everyone, including numerous on-air hosts here in Toronto, who get their butt kicked with a hospital emergency room worthy killer migraine when the temperature changes suddenly up or down by extreme degrees won't mind it not reaching 17° 🤨😒🤯😖

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