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January 22, 2025 7:21 pm  #1


CFTO News - Subtitles - Freudian Slip?

   I thought some of the oldtime CFTO viewers here might enjoy this one.  On Wednesday's 6 pm newscast, CTV had a John Musselman item on a Toronto police demonstration on ice safety and rescues. Nothing wrong with the item.  But the person doing the subtitles wrote in "Jim Junkin."  Must have been a station veteran doing the subtitles. I wonder if anyone there will catch and fix that mistake for the 11:30 edition.

 

January 22, 2025 8:52 pm  #2


Re: CFTO News - Subtitles - Freudian Slip?

I can't say for sure what might have happened here, but as someone who once did graphics for TV news, I can make a guess.

We used to have generic reporter name templates for every on air person, represented in the system by a number. So "Ron Burgundy" might be #503 in the queue, and you could all it up whenever you needed it. After all, there was no point in typing in the same name day after day after day. 

Is it possible this was an old version of that and they slipped in the wrong number, leading to what showed up on the screen? Again, can't say because I was doing it in the 80s and 90s and technology has changed a lot. But that could be one explanation - although why they would not have taken his name out of the system when he's been gone so long is beyond me. 

 

January 22, 2025 9:42 pm  #3


Re: CFTO News - Subtitles - Freudian Slip?

RadioActive wrote:

I can't say for sure what might have happened here, but as someone who once did graphics for TV news, I can make a guess.

We used to have generic reporter name templates for every on air person, represented in the system by a number. So "Ron Burgundy" might be #503 in the queue, and you could all it up whenever you needed it. After all, there was no point in typing in the same name day after day after day. 

Is it possible this was an old version of that and they slipped in the wrong number, leading to what showed up on the screen? Again, can't say because I was doing it in the 80s and 90s and technology has changed a lot. But that could be one explanation - although why they would not have taken his name out of the system when he's been gone so long is beyond me. 

 I'm not a TV guy so I may have the terminology wrong.  But this was not the name plate posted on the screen when the reporter or anchor is on air. This was in the subtitles for those of us who want/need every word on the screen.  

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January 22, 2025 11:03 pm  #4


Re: CFTO News - Subtitles - Freudian Slip?

OK that's very different. I've known many people who call the graphics "subtitles" and I just assumed you were one of them. Appreciate the update. A lot of the CC is done automatically. Did someone say something that a machine might have confused with that old name? I've seen that kind of thing happen before and it's both embarrassing and hilarious. 

I used to watch the closed captioning on our station, which they hired a firm called "Waite & Associates" to do for them. Sometimes, it was so out of whack with reality that it became insane. I sometimes used to say "I wonder what the deaf people reading this think of us," when something completely the opposite of what was on the screen came up.

One or two misplaced words can change the meaning of everything - for instance, having the captioning saying someone was found not guilty of murder, despite the fact they were. 

 

January 23, 2025 12:39 am  #5


Re: CFTO News - Subtitles - Freudian Slip?

   I should have called it closed captioning.  When they repeated the item at 11:30, Johm Musselman's name was not in the closed captioms, so I guess someone there noticed.

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