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August 15, 2022 2:40 pm  #1


Lisa LaFlamme out at CTV

A Bell Media "business decision", via Twitter
 

 

August 15, 2022 2:55 pm  #2


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Bell is right on brand with this move.

Betting a couple of their most senior executives decided to save money and make a change.

Also betting other top level executives that head up Bell's competitors are meeting a.s.a.p. with an eye to signing Lisa LaFlamme should she choose to continue working on-air.

Her goodbye was gracious, heartfelt and professional, as was her time as one of Canada's most respected and appreciated news anchors.

Last edited by betaylored (August 15, 2022 2:58 pm)

 

August 15, 2022 3:02 pm  #3


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Her announcement was the first item on the CBC Radio1 3 PM news report.

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August 15, 2022 3:04 pm  #4


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You get called into a meeting room by your manager. An HR rep is there. A security guard is either there or loitering just outside of the room. HR and your manager inform you that you are dismissed effective immediately. They request your badge and keys, and give you a stack of documents outlining the legalities and the compensation package details. They tell you to go over them with your legal advisor, and then direct you to the security guard who will escort you to your desk so you can grab your personal effects. If IT is on the ball you will have been locked out of the computer network during the meeting. When you're ready, the guard escorts you out of the building.

 

August 15, 2022 3:26 pm  #5


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Chrisphen wrote:

You get called into a meeting room by your manager. An HR rep is there. A security guard is either there or loitering just outside of the room. HR and your manager inform you that you are dismissed effective immediately. They request your badge and keys, and give you a stack of documents outlining the legalities and the compensation package details. They tell you to go over them with your legal advisor, and then direct you to the security guard who will escort you to your desk so you can grab your personal effects. If IT is on the ball you will have been locked out of the computer network during the meeting. When you're ready, the guard escorts you out of the building.

This decision was actually made at the end of June, so Lisa has been sitting on this news for like the last month and a half. The same thing happened with Global Montreal's lead news anchor Jamie Orchard, but she at least got to say goodbye on air.

This has got to be one of the dumbest moves CTV News and Bell Media have ever committed. 

 

August 15, 2022 3:34 pm  #6


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Do they at least have a permanent replacement in mind? Or is Sandie Rinaldo the anointed one?

 

August 15, 2022 3:35 pm  #7


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RadioActive wrote:

Do they at least have a permanent replacement in mind? Or is Sandie Reynoldo the anointed one?

Omar Sachedina gets the job.

 

August 15, 2022 3:40 pm  #8


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Broadcast Dialogue has LaFlamme's full written statement. 

Sadly, she had no idea it was coming and why would she? CTV National News was the #1 newscast in Canada. Only Bell could figure out that was reason enough to terminate the person who helped it get there. Idiots.

Gee, do you think this will come up as a topic on NT1010 in the same way the Derringer firing did? I'm guessing not, but you never know. 

 

August 15, 2022 3:46 pm  #9


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If you work for Bell Media, this firing clearly says, "your talent and results - Do. Not.  Matter."

So odd.

 

August 15, 2022 3:54 pm  #10


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August 15, 2022 4:01 pm  #11


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I hope she gets a good package.  When Bell (not Bell Media) was finalizing the deal to buy the company I used to work at (they already owned 66%, just getting the rest at the time), they were firing middle managers left, right, and centre, and didn't care how long and hard these people worked.  I guess Bell Media is the same.  I have actually witnessed that a person was having a meeting, asked to go to the main boardroom and then got papers handed to her.  Just terrible.
 

Last edited by chrishch (August 15, 2022 4:06 pm)

 

August 15, 2022 4:03 pm  #12


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Has the CTV National News had any ratings trouble at all? I thought it was CBC's National that was in trouble?

 

August 15, 2022 4:06 pm  #13


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RonaldS wrote:

Her announcement was the first item on the CBC Radio1 3 PM news report.

Was included in AM 640's newscast at 4 PM, complete with a clip from her statement. CFRB's same update at the same time with Nathan Downer? Not a peep.

I hope John Moore has the courage to address it on the morning show Tuesday. 

 

August 15, 2022 4:14 pm  #14


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chrishch wrote:

I hope she gets a good package.  When Bell (not Bell Media) was finalizing the deal to buy the company I used to work at (they already owned 66%, just getting the rest at the time), they were firing middle managers left, right, and centre, and didn't care how long and hard these people worked.  I guess Bell Media is the same.  I have actually witnessed that a person was having a meeting, asked to go to the main boardroom and then got papers handed to her.  Just terrible.
 

Chrisphen wrote:

You get called into a meeting room by your manager. An HR rep is there. A security guard is either there or loitering just outside of the room. HR and your manager inform you that you are dismissed effective immediately. They request your badge and keys, and give you a stack of documents outlining the legalities and the compensation package details. They tell you to go over them with your legal advisor, and then direct you to the security guard who will escort you to your desk so you can grab your personal effects. If IT is on the ball you will have been locked out of the computer network during the meeting. When you're ready, the guard escorts you out of the building.

Rogers is no different. I know of one employee who worked at City TV for almost 30 years, often toiling 16 hour days without overtime because that's what the job demanded. Everyone told him he was crazy to put in those hours. Turns out they were right.

One day, he was called on the phone at home just before leaving to come in and told to arrive at another location nearby before reporting to work. He had no idea why, but he left his briefcase at his desk then went next door to the meeting, where they lowered the boom as dispassionately and cruelly as possible. 

This guy was no Lisa LaFlamme and you've probably never heard of him, but he was a key cog behind the scenes in the newsroom. After 30 years - and having just been given a raise about 6 months before the axe dropped - he was gone. 

And they were very angry that he left his briefcase at his now former desk, and they would not let him go back inside to get it. He left without being able to even take home any of his mementos, clean out his desk or collect his own personal property. They brought him his case and his coat and told him to get out. Not so much as a thanks for three decades. Just contempt. 

So the Big Red Machine is equally ruthless. A pox on both of their houses. 

 

August 15, 2022 4:14 pm  #15


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They wanted someone younger who will work cheaper.


You don't have to be a good sport to be a mad one.
 

August 15, 2022 4:19 pm  #16


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If I remember the story he told me, they also fired 10 other people that day, none of whom expected it. But almost all of them were making above a certain salary, likely around the $80K a year range. So I suspect you're bang on. 

They gained money. But they lost a ton of experience that money can't buy.

I guess we know where their priorities lie. 

 

August 15, 2022 4:35 pm  #17


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Ratings have nothing to do with this decision.  BellMedia is simply addressing a workforce composition problem AND creating a more equitable and just Canadian social ecosystem in turn. The results will reflect positively to the critical ESG Rating Agencies and thus large investors. Everyone wins!

https://i.ibb.co/Fb6mDH6/Screenshot-20220815-153100-Samsung-Internet.jpg

 

August 15, 2022 4:48 pm  #18


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ED1 wrote:

Chrisphen wrote:

You get called into a meeting room by your manager. An HR rep is there. A security guard is either there or loitering just outside of the room. HR and your manager inform you that you are dismissed effective immediately. They request your badge and keys, and give you a stack of documents outlining the legalities and the compensation package details. They tell you to go over them with your legal advisor, and then direct you to the security guard who will escort you to your desk so you can grab your personal effects. If IT is on the ball you will have been locked out of the computer network during the meeting. When you're ready, the guard escorts you out of the building.

This decision was actually made at the end of June, so Lisa has been sitting on this news for like the last month and a half. The same thing happened with Global Montreal's lead news anchor Jamie Orchard, but she at least got to say goodbye on air.

This has got to be one of the dumbest moves CTV News and Bell Media have ever committed. 

I thought I’d never see them do anything more dumb than letting go Carol Ann Meehan at CJOH several years ago. Guess I was wrong.

In any event, both CBC and Global would be scoring a major coup to pick up Lisa. I’m sure we’ll see her in a high profile media position again.

 

August 15, 2022 4:59 pm  #19


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With her credentials, Lisa can write her own ticket anywhere... NBC, ABC, CBS or stay in Canada if she so chooses. 

 

August 15, 2022 5:07 pm  #20


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MJ Vancouver wrote:

I thought I’d never see them do anything more dumb than letting go Carol Ann Meehan at CJOH several years ago. Guess I was wrong.

In any event, both CBC and Global would be scoring a major coup to pick up Lisa. I’m sure we’ll see her in a high profile media position again.

Sadly I don't think either CBC or Global have spots for her. The National just had a big anchor shuffle there, and it appears that Farah Nasser is the heir apparent to when Dawna Friesen leaves Global National (hopefully on Dawna's terms). 
 

 

August 15, 2022 5:32 pm  #21


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While I'm sorry for Lisa LaFlamme, it's a good thing for Omar, whom I've met a number of times over the years and found him a very personable and nice guy.

But I'm worried he'll get the blame for taking over, instead of those in upper management who made this ill-considered decision. The toughest thing to do in broadcasting is replace a popular person who was there for a long, long time. Omar has a bit of a hill to climb. 

 

August 15, 2022 5:38 pm  #22


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That hill just got a bit steeper:

https://twitter.com/omarsachedina/status/1559251523493928962

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August 15, 2022 5:42 pm  #23


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RadioAaron wrote:

That hill just got a bit steeper:

https://twitter.com/omarsachedina/status/1559251523493928962

Exactly what I feared. No matter what he said (and you can't exactly expect him to express disappointment at getting such a huge gig), he'd be berated. This is a no-win situation for him, although I suspect it will pass after a time. It's impossible to replace someone who was well liked - especially when they didn't want to be replaced.

 

August 15, 2022 5:44 pm  #24


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It's typically considered good taste to wait at least a few days.


 
 

August 15, 2022 5:47 pm  #25


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CHCH wants an Executive Producer.

 

August 15, 2022 5:50 pm  #26


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RadioAaron wrote:

It's typically considered good taste to wait at least a few days.

I don't disagree, but I think he had to say something.

He should have wished LaFlamme luck at the very least and thanked her for her years of informing Canadians and leaving CTV's National News in such good hands. But I wonder if silence would have been worse. 

 

August 15, 2022 5:55 pm  #27


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Yes, he had to say something because CTV chose to announce his promotion. This is on them.


 
 

August 15, 2022 6:22 pm  #28


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They actually had him on their 6 PM show for a debrief, acknowledging that 'Lisa has moved on.' But most of the segment was about her replacement and not her firing. Not unexpected, but frankly, I'm kind of surprised they even broached the subject at all. They buried it at around 6:20 PM.

 

August 15, 2022 6:25 pm  #29


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RadioActive wrote:

RadioAaron wrote:

It's typically considered good taste to wait at least a few days.

I don't disagree, but I think he had to say something.

He should have wished LaFlamme luck at the very least and thanked her for her years of informing Canadians and leaving CTV's National News in such good hands. But I wonder if silence would have been worse. 

He did thank Lisa for all of that and he even included Lloyd.  Omar was interviewed on CTV News Channel and talked about Lisa being a mentor and friend to him, and her work at CTV.  

Don't really know why CTV/Bell is doing this.  They have the number one newscast by a huge margin.  During the summer months CTV National news has been in the top 5 programs and occasionally number one.  Even during the regular TV season they are often in the top 10, so why this big change?

Omar is a good and likeable journalist, but Lisa has all of this too, plus much more experience and  the audience obviously likes her.  So the reasoning seems very vague. 

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August 15, 2022 7:29 pm  #30


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ED1 wrote:

This has got to be one of the dumbest moves CTV News and Bell Media have ever committed. 

,,,in a galaxy of dumb decisions.