Edmonton Sun Writer Pays Tribute To A Radio Stn. Changing Frequency

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Posted by RadioActive Online!
October 6, 2024 9:28 am
#1

Imagine if you woke up tomorrow morning and heard CFRB being referred to as NewsTalk 1410. It would sound strange to your ears for a very long time. 

Which brings us to Edmonton, where a major change is about to take place on their radio dial. On Wednesday, CHED, a one time Top 40 station that's been on 630 AM since 1963, will move down the dial to 880, after Corus closed down CHQT in a cost cutting move. CHED has been simulcasting there since late June and 880 has a better signal. 

In this article from the Edmonton Sun, writer Cam Tait relates what the station has meant to him since he was young and how it changed his life and career. At one point, he reflects on how a young kid whose cerebral palsy made his speech hard to understand, eventually came to voice a spot on his favourite station - and what happened after it aired. 

"When my commercial came on [DJ Don] West looked up. Down. Frowned. Took his earphones off.

Banged his right arm on the cart machine. Hooke later told me West wrote “Cart 36. Muffled and faulty.” 

We all laughed — everyone, that is, except sales rep Brian Dickenson, whose client was the spot I voiced. “Nice going, Tait. I’ll be getting a cancellation of that account because of you,” Dickenson said. 

“Merry Christmas to you, too.”


A nice memory of what a radio station means to people who go back to when it was a dominant and influential medium in their lives. 

Venerable radio station CHED moving up the dial

 
Posted by Binson Echorec
October 6, 2024 11:33 am
#2

RadioActive wrote:

will move down the dial to 880

Time to settle this one once and for all - is moving from 630 to 880 to be considered moving UP the dial or DOWN? Both instances are used in the OP, and both have been used in the industry for decades but I've never encountered any consistency with usage.

I'm leaning toward UP in this instance: 880 is a greater number than 630, so to me, you're moving UP the dial.

What is the argument for using DOWN to describe the move from 630 to 880?

 
Posted by andysradio
October 6, 2024 11:34 am
#3

A casual listener would hardly know anything was about to change by looking their web site.

630 CHED

 
Posted by andysradio
October 6, 2024 11:39 am
#4

UP. It is moving up to a higher frequency. Further, in North America radios go up in frequency by moving to the right, which is also how we read. So to speak, it is further along. 

 
Posted by paterson1
October 6, 2024 12:19 pm
#5

Some 630 CHED jingles from the late 80's..https://radiowest.ca/forum/viewtopic.php?p=12870098#p12870098

 
Posted by RadioAaron
October 6, 2024 12:28 pm
#6

andysradio wrote:

A casual listener would hardly know anything was about to change by looking their web site.

630 CHED

They've been on both for several weeks, so I suspect they'll be on both until the end of November (end of fall ratings) which should give the casual listeners tons of time to figure it out.

 
Posted by RadioActive Online!
October 6, 2024 1:09 pm
#7

Binson Echorec wrote:

RadioActive wrote:

will move down the dial to 880

Time to settle this one once and for all - is moving from 630 to 880 to be considered moving UP the dial or DOWN? Both instances are used in the OP, and both have been used in the industry for decades but I've never encountered any consistency with usage.

I'm leaning toward UP in this instance: 880 is a greater number than 630, so to me, you're moving UP the dial.

What is the argument for using DOWN to describe the move from 630 to 880?

This has always driven me crazy, and as I often say, it's not a long drive. In my mind, I picture one of those old analogue radio dials, and to get from 630 AM to 880 seems to me to be going down the dial from the left side to more in the middle (in this case.) 

A few years ago, I posted a question here about this very thing, and got replies indicating both ways from different contributors. So while it may in fact be up, because the frequency is higher, I can't get that old analogue dial out of mind showing it - to me, at least - going down. Hence my use of the term. Proving, if nothing else, that old habits are hard to break. 

 
Posted by ED1
October 6, 2024 7:48 pm
#8

RadioAaron wrote:

andysradio wrote:

A casual listener would hardly know anything was about to change by looking their web site.

630 CHED

They've been on both for several weeks, so I suspect they'll be on both until the end of November (end of fall ratings) which should give the casual listeners tons of time to figure it out.

The station IDs have also been reflecting the simulcast, though I'm guessing most people aren't paying attention, and some will actually be surprised when the move to 880 happens.

Heard that the transmitter for 880 in Edmonton is much newer and more energy efficient than the 630 tx, and that 630 has been operating only at 10 kW (880 is operating at 50 kW). 

The sad sidenote in all of this is that 'CHQT' as a call sign will (probably) be retired when the move happens. 

 

 
Posted by RadioAaron
October 6, 2024 7:59 pm
#9

So far in the current ratings period, 880 is getting about 20% of the 630/880 listening.

 
Posted by mace
October 7, 2024 9:14 am
#10

Growing up I always considered 550 WGR at the top of the dial and 1600 CJRN at the bottom.

 
Posted by Binson Echorec
October 7, 2024 5:03 pm
#11

Adding to the confusion of UP and DOWN mixed usage:

I recall having a kitchen radio where the tuner moved vertically...so the bar literally moved up and down; unlike a car radio where it would move from side to side. And I'm pretty sure that vertically scrolling tuner had 550 at the top and 1600 would have been at the bottom...lending some credence to the usage of DOWN for moving from a lower frequency to higher.

 
Posted by Lorne
October 7, 2024 5:27 pm
#12

Binson Echorec wrote:

Adding to the confusion of UP and DOWN mixed usage:

I recall having a kitchen radio where the tuner moved vertically...so the bar literally moved up and down; unlike a car radio where it would move from side to side. And I'm pretty sure that vertically scrolling tuner had 550 at the top and 1600 would have been at the bottom...lending some credence to the usage of DOWN for moving from a lower frequency to higher.

I have two radios with that kind of tuner; one is a Sony and the other a Pulser (Canadian Tire). Both of them have the highest frequencies at the top.

 
Posted by RadioActive Online!
October 7, 2024 6:06 pm
#13

How, then, would you characterize this radio dial? It's the manual tuning option for my 2024 Mazda 3. It's a giant circle.



(By the way, if you care about the Entertainment System in a car, never buy a Mazda 3. It's so poorly designed, it's almost unusable. And don't expect any help from Mazda of Toronto, whose service has been absolutely terrible.)

 
Posted by ED1
October 9, 2024 2:21 am
#14

CHED Edmonton has officially moved its programming from 630 AM to 880 AM. Logos on the website have been updated. There is also a series of promos running on 630 AM telling people to find the station on 880. 

Plus, the following legal ID... "630 CHQT Edmonton, a Corus Entertainment radio station."

Last edited by ED1 (October 9, 2024 2:24 am)

 
Posted by RadioActive Online!
October 9, 2024 3:12 pm
#15

Global News Edmonton did a quick video hit on the change Wednesday. Its story notes that not only is the station giving away breakfast to listeners this Friday, it's also offering chances to see Bruce Springsteen and the Oilers play (although not at the same time!)

Wonder which on-air personality will be the first to accidentally say "630 CHED."

880 CHED’s ‘Reset Your Preset’ drive-thru party happening this Friday
 

 
Posted by paterson1
October 9, 2024 4:52 pm
#16

In recognition of CHED's move to 880 AM this week, RadioWest.ca has been featuring different CHED jingles everyday.  Here are some quite involved jingles from the early 60's when they were at 1080. 
https://www.radiowest.ca/jingles24/jotd241009ched1080donkay.mp3

And some hot top 40 jingles, mid to late 80's when 630 CHED was still a powerhouse music station..
https://www.radiowest.ca/jingles18/jotd180409chedjam1.mp3

 
Posted by fybush
October 10, 2024 9:52 pm
#17

I'm on a GO train heading home from Pearson after a few lovely days in Alberta, in part to hear the CHED move.

The loop of promos on 630 will go away Nov. 10 and 630 will fall silent entirely.

The signal comparison is interesting. 880 is as good or better than 630 across metro Edmonton, and better than 630 to the north, for whatever that's worth.

But down highway 2 toward Red Deer and Calgary, there's no comparison. 630 is loud and clear in Calgary, while 880 is weaker during the day and gone entirely at night to protect KRVN in Nebraska.

(In fairness, CHED lost one of six towers at the 630 site and has been non-directional for a few months.)

 
Posted by andysradio
October 11, 2024 6:58 am
#18

Scott, any word discussed regarding 730/980 Vancouver?

 
Posted by MJ Vancouver
October 11, 2024 11:31 am
#19

ED1 wrote:

CHED Edmonton has officially moved its programming from 630 AM to 880 AM. Logos on the website have been updated. There is also a series of promos running on 630 AM telling people to find the station on 880. 

Plus, the following legal ID... "630 CHQT Edmonton, a Corus Entertainment radio station."

Did they swap the calls between the two frequencies - putting CHED on 880 and CHQT on 630?

 
Posted by ED1
October 11, 2024 11:44 am
#20

MJ Vancouver wrote:

ED1 wrote:

CHED Edmonton has officially moved its programming from 630 AM to 880 AM. Logos on the website have been updated. There is also a series of promos running on 630 AM telling people to find the station on 880. 

Plus, the following legal ID... "630 CHQT Edmonton, a Corus Entertainment radio station."

Did they swap the calls between the two frequencies - putting CHED on 880 and CHQT on 630?

Yes. The call signs were officially switched on October 9 at 12 AM with ISED.

 
Posted by ED1
October 11, 2024 11:48 am
#21

fybush wrote:

I'm on a GO train heading home from Pearson after a few lovely days in Alberta, in part to hear the CHED move.

The loop of promos on 630 will go away Nov. 10 and 630 will fall silent entirely.

The signal comparison is interesting. 880 is as good or better than 630 across metro Edmonton, and better than 630 to the north, for whatever that's worth.

But down highway 2 toward Red Deer and Calgary, there's no comparison. 630 is loud and clear in Calgary, while 880 is weaker during the day and gone entirely at night to protect KRVN in Nebraska.

(In fairness, CHED lost one of six towers at the 630 site and has been non-directional for a few months.)

I'm driving up Highway 2 late this evening so I'll have to listen to 880 when I reach Red Deer. I suppose if people in Red Deer wanted Corus Radio programming they can tune to 770. However when it comes to Oilers/Elks games, unless there's a local station in Red Deer that's part of the Oilers/Elks Radio Network, they'll have listen online. 

As far as this morning is concerned, the drive-thru party mentioned earlier in this thread is happening. Lots of CHED alumni also visiting the station this morning. Former Elks football host/sales guy Bryan Hall rattled on nicely about the history of CHED a few minutes ago. As of typing this post, the mayor of Edmonton is still calling the place "630 CHED" haha. 
 

Last edited by ED1 (October 11, 2024 11:52 am)

 


 
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