The Southern Ontario/WNY Radio-TV Forum / A new option in Ontario: Telus TV

**Posted by Radiowiz** May 15, 2025 1:13 pm

Looks like we finally have more choice, instead of the usual Rogers/Bell choices.
Telus is also discounting the streaming options:
"Save on streaming
Add popular streaming services for less than subscribing individually."

https://www.telus.com/en/tv/optik

**Posted by TheWiz** May 15, 2025 3:53 pm

I'm with Telus owned Start.ca for TV and Internet. Their TV service has been god awful. Maybe they'll switch over to this interface, which might be better?

**Posted by DOPEfm** May 15, 2025 11:34 pm

The scam (or at least, that's my take...) is that you need to have the same companies internet. (Can't have rogers internet + telus tv, for example). In a truly competitive market, this wouldn't be allowed.

Think back, if you had a bell phone, you didn't have to have their internet to have that service. Then, you had better leverage of choice (at least for internet).

Cable TVs always been a service area, so that's never changed.

**Posted by Radiowiz** May 16, 2025 12:27 am

DOPEfm wrote:
The scam (or at least, that's my take...) is that you need to have the same companies internet. (Can't have rogers internet + telus tv, for example). In a truly competitive market, this wouldn't be allowed.

Think back, if you had a bell phone, you didn't have to have their internet to have that service. Then, you had better leverage of choice (at least for internet).

Cable TVs always been a service area, so that's never changed.

I agree 100%, but I also love the idea of just ONE bill. It's very nice not having to worry about each service's bill cycle and have to worry about whether or not each bill has been paid on time. (easy to forget a bill)

HOWEVER I also very much agree with the freedom of true choice, and the freedom to not be forced to have one company for two or more services.

Thing is, if you have Rogers for internet, and Telus for TV, it's too easy to have something go very wrong and they (Telus) will just say it's a Rogers problem, while Rogers will try to say it's a Telus problem...

**Posted by DOPEfm** May 16, 2025 1:53 am

Radiowiz wrote:
DOPEfm wrote:
The scam (or at least, that's my take...) is that you need to have the same companies internet. (Can't have rogers internet + telus tv, for example). In a truly competitive market, this wouldn't be allowed.

Think back, if you had a bell phone, you didn't have to have their internet to have that service. Then, you had better leverage of choice (at least for internet).

Cable TVs always been a service area, so that's never changed.
I agree 100%, but I also love the idea of just ONE bill. It's very nice not having to worry about each service's bill cycle and have to worry about whether or not each bill has been paid on time. (easy to forget a bill)

HOWEVER I also very much agree with the freedom of true choice, and the freedom to not be forced to have one company for two or more services.

Thing is, if you have Rogers for internet, and Telus for TV, it's too easy to have something go very wrong and they (Telus) will just say it's a Rogers problem, while Rogers will try to say it's a Telus problem...

My take is on networks, they all share on each other at some juncture or another.

With separate service choice, the bills drop to stay competitive. This 'bundling' is another so said scam.

These broadcast/cable/etc companies make huge profits off of these tactics such as uncompetitive services. Then blow it on naming things and spending in the most egregious and irresponsible ways. You and I should have our names on something by now as we funded it. Wasteful for the wealthy.

Anyways, back to TV, make the system truly competitive. Android boxes and other work arounds are costing them and again, you and I pay more for that customer loss.

Perhaps Telus TV quality and line-up may be better, but god forbid, I'll never know, I'm in a Rogers serviced area. Blows my mind man.

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**Posted by mace** May 16, 2025 9:05 am

Interesting that in the core channel package, you receive CTV/CBC Montreal and CTV Toronto. Why not CBC Toronto? In the pick your section an East/West Coast option is offered for the four main U.S. networks but not for PBS. I have access to three PBS stations [Buffalo, Detroit, Seattle] with Rogers.

**Posted by RadioAaron** May 16, 2025 10:12 am

DOPEfm wrote:
Perhaps Telus TV quality and line-up may be better, but god forbid, I'll never know, I'm in a Rogers serviced area. Blows my mind man.
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It's available just about everywhere. Telus internet (mostly marketed under the Koodo brand) is just a reseller....formerly Altima telecom.

**Posted by Binson Echorec** May 16, 2025 11:01 am

DOPEfm wrote:
The scam (or at least, that's my take...) is that you need to have the same companies internet. (Can't have rogers internet + telus tv, for example).

While I agree with this in principle, the Telus website does let me inform them whether I'm a Telus internet subscriber or not.

The Telus TV prices for Telus Internet subscribers is $45 or $60 for the two packages offered. Those prices jump to $124 and $139 respectively when I toggle the switch to "not a subscriber".

You can also toggle the 2-year term pricing on and off, which naturally results in higher prices when off.

So it looks like they'll work with you if you have a different ISP, but the problems already outlined above are sure to happen: "it's the other provider's problem". And yes, the convenience of one bill is well, convenient.

**Posted by TheWiz** May 16, 2025 11:47 am

DOPEfm wrote:
The scam (or at least, that's my take...) is that you need to have the same companies internet. (Can't have rogers internet + telus tv, for example). In a truly competitive market, this wouldn't be allowed.

This seems to be pretty common. For streaming TV, you have to have the same internet provider. There may even be a CRTC rule regarding this.

Does anyone know if this in an actual regulation? At the very least, I think there is a policy that only internet providers can offer live streaming TV.

**Posted by fybush** May 16, 2025 2:20 pm

It's very different (and IMO better) here in the US - we can get streaming TV from a variety of providers without any link needed to a home internet service. In my case, I get my home internet from a local fiber provider, Greenlight, and I get my streaming TV from YouTube TV. $55 a month for 500 mbps fiber, $85 a month for YouTube TV. A lot cheaper than what I would pay my local monopoly cable provider for internet and TV, and I can use the YouTube TV streaming anywhere in the US when I'm traveling (and in Canada via VPN, most of the time.)