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Indie 88 is expanding. 92.1 Alliston, 102.7 Bolton, 101.3 Milton and 101.5 Orangeville will become Indie for those markets.
I saw a post on Facebook regarding it. Ian March will be heard weekends 3-6 at those stations as well.
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Great. Another AUTOMATED COOKIE CUTTER FORMAT in multiple Ontario markets. Just what we needed.
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Is there any reference to the change? If Local Radio Lab really was to expand the Indie format to all four markets, they could just shutdown the stations in Milton and Bolton altogether. The 60dbU contour of Indie 88 covers these two towns very well, and the additional signals provide little to no value to the cluster.
Additionally, the 101.3 and 102.7 frequency in Milton and Bolton both have severe co-channel interference with other stations in GTA. Even they were sold to other operators, the trending decline in radio revenue would be very difficult for these stations to survive in the long-term.
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Adrian106072 wrote:
Is there any reference to the change? If Local Radio Lab really was to expand the Indie format to all four markets, they could just shutdown the stations in Milton and Bolton altogether. The 60dbU contour of Indie 88 covers these two towns very well, and the additional signals provide little to no value to the cluster.
Additionally, the 101.3 and 102.7 frequency in Milton and Bolton both have severe co-channel interference with other stations in GTA. Even they were sold to other operators, the trending decline in radio revenue would be very difficult for these stations to survive in the long-term.
Each station would still have it's unique separate value, especially on a Saturday afternoon for a remote or something live. No need to tell someone in Toronto to come on down to Joe's garage in Bolton or something.
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I got the info on Facebook. Ian March posted it himself.
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Adrian106072 wrote:
Is there any reference to the change? If Local Radio Lab really was to expand the Indie format to all four markets, they could just shutdown the stations in Milton and Bolton altogether. The 60dbU contour of Indie 88 covers these two towns very well, and the additional signals provide little to no value to the cluster.
Additionally, the 101.3 and 102.7 frequency in Milton and Bolton both have severe co-channel interference with other stations in GTA. Even they were sold to other operators, the trending decline in radio revenue would be very difficult for these stations to survive in the long-term.
Not only that.... but all but one of those stations are within the Toronto ppm market, which could chomp away at CIND's ratings. Strange idea
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When I saw the headline for this thread I was a little shocked-thinking how could the "Indie" format work in all these smaller markets? But then I actually checked what Indie 88 is playing these days as I haven't listened regularly since Dave Bookman (Bookie's passing), to find it isn't even close to the Indie or Alternative format that I recalled-it seems to now be a mix of Hot AC with some Alt. mixed in (actually it's pretty close to what Stingray was trying with 93.5)-so really it isn't a big change at all from what the Milton, Orangeville, Bolton frequencies are already playing-just a slight tweak. Their playlist now includes Kelly Clarkson, Chappell Roan, Sheryl Crow, Train and Fleetwood Mac.
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km93 wrote:
When I saw the headline for this thread I was a little shocked-thinking how could the "Indie" format work in all these smaller markets? But then I actually checked what Indie 88 is playing these days as I haven't listened regularly since Dave Bookman (Bookie's passing), to find it isn't even close to the Indie or Alternative format that I recalled-it seems to now be a mix of Hot AC with some Alt. mixed in (actually it's pretty close to what Stingray was trying with 93.5)-so really it isn't a big change at all from what the Milton, Orangeville, Bolton frequencies are already playing-just a slight tweak. Their playlist now includes Kelly Clarkson, Chappell Roan, Sheryl Crow, Train and Fleetwood Mac.
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km93 wrote:
When I saw the headline for this thread I was a little shocked-thinking how could the "Indie" format work in all these smaller markets? But then I actually checked what Indie 88 is playing these days as I haven't listened regularly since Dave Bookman (Bookie's passing), to find it isn't even close to the Indie or Alternative format that I recalled-it seems to now be a mix of Hot AC with some Alt. mixed in (actually it's pretty close to what Stingray was trying with 93.5)-so really it isn't a big change at all from what the Milton, Orangeville, Bolton frequencies are already playing-just a slight tweak. Their playlist now includes Kelly Clarkson, Chappell Roan, Sheryl Crow, Train and Fleetwood Mac.
The format literally morphed into 'modern AC' since the takeover of new owner, with the closest station being Cities 97 in Minneapolis. Sean Ross of Radio Insight did an article on the station a few months ago, stating that after the station had gone in a mainstream direction, the ratings went even higher in the recent Summer survey. He described the station as 'triple-A', but I really doubt it with the station's playlist consisting of 30-40% typical hot AC songs. I'm sure a lot of former listeners haven't liked the change at all, but the ratings says otherwise...
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The exurban stations have rebranded to “Indie FM” but are running different music (mainstream AC) and airshifts than Indie88, albeit sharing staff and promotions.
Bob Willette is currently on Indie FM playing “Walking in Memphis,” whereas Carlin, Brent, and Jackie are on Indie88 having most recently played “It’s the End of the World As We Know It” (by REM, though Great Big Sea is also on their modern-AC-leaning playlist now). Bob will also be on Indie88 this afternoon filling in for Lana. Adam has been heard middays on both.
Both Indie88 and Indie FM are giving away No Doubt in Las Vegas trips, much more ambitious than the promotions the exurban stations would run under their prior brands.
Last edited by Jonathan W (December 2, 2025 8:52 am)
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Bob Willette this morning just said (On Indie 103.1 Milton)
"We are Indie because we don't own your cable or cell...we are just a radio station independently owned and operated..."
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India 103.1 probably would've done better in Milton
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Bob Willette mornings, Ryan middays, Adam Ricard drive, Carlin, Brent, Jackie evenings. This was what I was told. Ian March when he posted on his post that he would be 3-6 weekends. Not sure who else on weekends. I am sure The List will make an appearance as well.
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Three of the four exurban stations were MyFM stations owned by My Broadcasting. I listened regularly to Orangeville and occasionally to another.
They had been “cookie-cutter” stations all along with out-of-market announcing shared with other MyFM AC stations across Ontario, except for local news and remotes. Bolton has a separate history. Local Radio Lab acquired it not from My Broadcasting but from Vista Radio. But by the end I think Vista Radio was also running it as a cookie-cutter of their Moose FM.
Now at least these four West GTA exurbs stations will get music and announcer breaks programmed for that cluster and that cluster alone, and still local news. It’s not golden age radio but it’s not the worst.
Last edited by Jonathan W (December 2, 2025 3:19 pm)
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Broadcast Dialogue makes it official.
Local Radio Lab rolls out ‘Indie’ branding across its stations
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Bob on the exurban morning show is really engaging with the music, something these stations scarcely did in the MyFM era, except for their Sunday morning oldies show. Welcome shift!
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Decided to give this "AAA" format a listen last night... I heard a break from a male announcer pretending to be live, but you could hear the audio looping back on the recorded voicetrack clear as day...... d'oh!
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Caught the cookie cutter countdown show "The List" this morning and last Saturday as well. It was the exact same recorded countdown show back-to-back. Quite an odd strategy given that many people also have weekend routines and would've noticed the repeat countdown