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February 7, 2017 9:12 pm  #1


1220 AM St. Catharines any action?

Hello:
Seems it's been almost a year since a license was granted for 1220 AM in St. Catharines. Is anyone aware of any activity such as testing, recruiting or activity at transmitter site?

If I remember correctly a lot of work was going to be required to resurrect the old transmitter site and comply with regulations.

Anybody know anything about project status or potential on air dates?

 

 

February 7, 2017 9:29 pm  #2


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Jeeze I hope things are coming along...

I've been taking Tamil language lessons the past 8 months and I've brushed up on my swimming too...

On a far more serious note I just found out last week that one of my old workmates at CHSC had passed...

I shared  the morning news run with Frank Fanstone when I first arrived at CHSC in 1974. Frank was a native of Niagara Falls and I knew he had been having health issues but I only recently heard of his passing.  He was 65. Too young...

R.I.P. Frank
 


"I'll kick your ass down Yonge Street"... CFTR's Robert Holiday circa 1979...
 

February 7, 2017 10:04 pm  #3


Re: 1220 AM St. Catharines any action?

darcyh wrote:

Hello:
Seems it's been almost a year since a license was granted for 1220 AM in St. Catharines. Is anyone aware of any activity such as testing, recruiting or activity at transmitter site?

If I remember correctly a lot of work was going to be required to resurrect the old transmitter site and comply with regulations.

Anybody know anything about project status or potential on air dates? 

According to the CRTC decision, they have until April 2018 to be up and running. That's more than a year away, although theoretically, they could be on the air much sooner than that.  

 

February 8, 2017 7:57 am  #4


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Sorry to hear about Frank's passing. Worked with Frank as well. I did the all night show Midnight to six at CHSC. Frank would arrive around 5 AM to prepare for his morning news shift with Jim Marino. Gone to soon!

Last edited by peter.spyksma@rogers.com (February 8, 2017 7:59 am)

 

February 18, 2018 9:06 am  #5


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According to Canadian Radio News, the new owners of the 1220 frequency (aka "Grapevine Radio") have received an extension on when they have to be on the air. They now have a full year to get up and running, extending to April 2019.

Do we have another CKNT Mississauga in the making? I have a feeling those oldies they plan to play will be a lot older by the time they actually have anything going. 

 

February 18, 2018 8:16 pm  #6


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Chuck99 wrote:

With 2 perennial money losers on the FM band at 105.1 and 101.1 in Niagara Falls and Fort Erie, the idea of starting a new station on the AM band in the same region seems insane to me, unless your are looking for a big tax write-off.

The two FM's in Niagara might actually be scraping by, or one might be a tax write off while the other makes all the money, (each complimenting each other as to never be a threat to each other's revenue)
but it's very difficult to stand alone and only be one station with no income to declare.
Especially on AM.

I have not been to St. Catharines Ontario in a while.
Is there a good enough population count there listening to AM 740 for lack of a better (Canadian) choice?
Or are they already glued to the Grand FM?
That's the other thing...1220 had a chance to snatch up staff from the former CKOC but Grand beat them to it!
 


 

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February 20, 2018 7:32 pm  #7


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Similar amusement when heading north on Hwy 400, tuned to FM 104.1.   Buffalo, then Midland, then Buffalo, then Midland until settling for Midland beyond Holland Marsh

 

February 20, 2018 7:45 pm  #8


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If you really want a genuine belly-laugh, when in the Cobourg-area (the nation's hospital shooting capital) tune to 89.7 from some bargain-basement amateur-hour nonsense. Especially, Wednesday mornings @ 10 for someone that even Cable 10 would say is not ready for prime time.  This individual thinks of himself as punny but, in actuality, comes across as a bingo-caller that has hot coals in his jockstrap.

 

February 22, 2018 11:21 am  #9


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RadioActive wrote:

According to Canadian Radio News, the new owners of the 1220 frequency (aka "Grapevine Radio") have received an extension on when they have to be on the air. They now have a full year to get up and running, extending to April 2019. 

Here's a little more on the delay from the letter their lawyer wrote to the CRTC:

"[We are] in the process of commencing the build-out the A.M. transmitter site at St. Catharines ON, as well as obtaining office and studio facilities for the radio station.

As we are now in the winter season, it will take a number of months to acquire a new transmitter, install and test the A.M. transmission system, (including ground system, towers, and A.M. tuning equipment) and install broadcasting equipment at the transmitter site and the broadcast studios. We do not anticipate significant construction of the A.M. transmission site, until the summer of 2018."


I get why there are delays. But I thought I read they planned to use at least some of the existing CHSC facilities. Shouldn't that have allowed them to get on air faster? Or are they actually starting from scratch?
 

 

February 23, 2018 3:14 pm  #10


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RadioActive wrote:

I thought I read they planned to use at least some of the existing CHSC facilities. Shouldn't that have allowed them to get on air faster? Or are they actually starting from scratch?

A fair analogy would be how much longer it takes to re-build a long-abandoned historical building than it would to bulldoze and start over.  Not just from not being maintained, but mainly from having to meet today's building standards.  One big example is asbestos:  if you don't touch a building, you don't have to replace the asbestos.  But many types of changes to an existing building would require that all the asbestos be removed.

A few years ago, CKUA-AM in Edmonton was faced with several million to get their transmitter site up to new Industry Canada standards, so they surrendered the license before the deadline for upgrades, and lived with the loss of coverage in areas not covered by their simulcast FM transmitters.  Since we are talking about the same period of time, I suspect the CHSC transmitter site would not be allowed back on the air with the new Industry Canada rules likely mandatory by now.  Who knows what changes to the studios might have triggered the requirement to meet current building code?
 

 

February 23, 2018 5:24 pm  #11


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Just a reminder that the original CHSC broadcast building was torn down a few years ago:
http://www.stcatharinesstandard.ca/2015/01/14/chscs-fortunes-face-final-crumble

 

February 23, 2018 11:23 pm  #12


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The article talks about the station signing on in 1967.  Not long after, a friend from Buffalo drove around St. Catharines at night and said that, in the West half of the City, CHSC reception was good.  In the other half, WGAR Cleveland was dominant on 1220.

Ah, just checked Vane Jones log ("North American TV/Radio Station Guide") from 1968, and I see why:  CHSC only ran 500 watts at night in those days, and had to protect WNIA-1230 located in a Buffalo suburb.