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SOWNY » Nevin Grant of CKOC news » May 10, 2020 2:09 pm

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Carl Patrick wrote:

Nevin will be missed. A true leader in the business. I had the pleasure of meeting him several tines in my career, the first time at a career day at my high school in Brantford, then as a  radio student at Mohawk College and as an intern at CKOC. One of the most helpful and nicest persons I encountered in radio.

I echo those sentiments exactly, Carl. By the way you and I were in the same radio class at Mohawk. I even did an internship at CKOC during my final year and Nevin and the staff there made me feel welcome and took the time to show me around and even help at one of their charity hockey games.
I visited Nevin many times over the years and was impressed with how he always took the time to sit and chat and never made you feel like you were intruding on his time. CKOC did top 40 but on their terms. They made it very Hamilton focused while their on air people all were encouraged to be personalities. Many of them stayed at CKOC for a long time, a further testament to the atmosphere he created. He was truly one of a kind.
 

SOWNY » Okay time to shake it up, It's all 70's weekend, what is your fave hit » May 5, 2020 10:45 am

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paterson1 wrote:

Bread Let Your Love Go- I always really like when a group does a song that doesn't sound like them.  Bread of course was known for ballads but when I first heard Let Your Love Go on the radio years after it was released I didn't realize it was Bread. Also love the intrinsic "harpsichord" at :57sec and near the end of the song.

And the hits just keep on coming-

 

Bread actually had two sides to their sound but as the chart positions indicated, the ballads just seemed to have more appeal so that's what continued to get released as singles after a while.


 

SOWNY » When Did Radio's 6-Day Work Week Change? » April 17, 2020 7:45 pm

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6-day work weeks were almost the norm in radio until about the early 70's when they first started with giving the morning hosts 5-day weeks. By the 80's I believe 5-day weeks were more common for other shifts although some  stations had 3 or 4 announcers who would rotate having a 6-day week. 

SOWNY » I heard MacArthur Park by Donna Summer on Jazz FM tonight and.... » April 1, 2020 2:32 pm

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Jody Thornton wrote:

Peter the K wrote:

Sugarloaf's Green Eyed Lady



 

See, on the radio I'm used to the radio edit (similarly to "Beginnings" by Chicago.)  These tracks are long on their LP versions, however they'd never occur to me as washroom break songs.
 

The dilemma with some is that if you really like the song you don't want to miss it. Most of the tunes mentioned above fall into that category for me as do "Closer to Home" (LP version) by Grand Funk and "Kashmir" from Zeppelin. Then there's so-called medleys such as Jackson Browne "Loadout/Stay" or "Funeral for a Friend/Love Lies Bleeding" by Elton.

SOWNY » I heard MacArthur Park by Donna Summer on Jazz FM tonight and.... » April 1, 2020 2:31 pm

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Jody Thornton wrote:

Peter the K wrote:

Sugarloaf's Green Eyed Lady



 

See, on the radio I'm used to the radio edit (similarly to "Beginnings" by Chicago.)  These tracks are long on their LP versions, however they'd never occur to me as washroom break songs.
 

The dilemma with some is that if you really like the song you don't want to miss it. Most of the tunes mentioned above fall into that category for me as do "Closer to Home" (LP version) by Grand Funk and "Kashmir" from Zeppelin. Then there's so-called medleys such as Jackson Browne "Loadout/Stay" or "Funeral for a Friend/Love Lies Bleeding" by Elton.

SOWNY » The Edge gets new morning team from Hamilton Y108 » March 6, 2020 7:06 pm

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RadioAaron wrote:

Paul Jeffries wrote:

RadioAaron wrote:

And to your point, when a local version of the format is available, the local one wins by a lot. Boom is #1, but there's nothing like it in Hamilton. Meanwhile, CHFI doesn't make the list while K-Lite is #2. So listeners in Hamilton are picking format first, locality second.

All the more reason that 95.3 should consider bringing the Vinyl format back. 


PJ

Corus have completely sacrificed 95.3's Hamilton focus in an attempt to make it their 3rd FM in Toronto. Vinyl wouldn't get any Toronto numbers, and Boom may be too entrenched in the Hamilton market by now for any return to local to be effective. 
 

Classic hits and the like don't seem to be the direction for Corus Radio these days. If you look at the trends over the last few years they've been pushing the FRESH and now ENERGY format. They even nudged Q-107 a bit further away from classic rock, incorporating more recent tunes into the mix. 



 

SOWNY » The Edge gets new morning team from Hamilton Y108 » February 21, 2020 9:43 pm

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Muffaraw Joe wrote:

The real story is this is it, this is the future of radio, a centralized morning show, with local traffic reports done by a traffic service in Toronto, and maybe BN news...also centralized...

It is cost cutting, tear the soul out of local, creative, compelling radio... sorry, but we're being served pablum and we're taking it... we're getting baby food, when really as adults we want adult food (radio/media)...

Just sayin'

 

Corus seems to be leading the pack in morning shows that don't originate in their market. 95.3's morning show comes out of their building in T.O. 
As for the Edge, even they have been having fun the last few weeks acknowledging the revolving door of morning shows the station has had for too many years now. The promos even include clips, supposedly from listeners making snide remarks. In one clip the person even says "You guys stopped being the EDGE a long time ago". Another features someone who was supposed to have been approached about taking the job saying something like "No way. I don't want to get fired quickly". Sounds like they resorted to humour as a survival tactic. Maybe this might also mean they're actually going to give this team enough time to gain some traction. 




 

SOWNY » Beautiful Music » February 19, 2020 9:30 pm

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markow202 wrote:

Perhaps the closest right now to this format would be Wave FM (94.7) out of Hamilton?

Small correction - for the last few years WAVE has been available only on HD. Country thrives there now with KX94.7 being one of the city's top stations.
Also, no one has brought up the former 105.7 CHRE (and its predecessor CHSC-FM) St. Catharines which was "beautiful music" for nearly two decades. It's one of the stations that was on frequently in our house growing up and turned out to be my first radio job.

SOWNY » K Country coming to Georgina » February 10, 2020 7:42 pm

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paterson1 wrote:

Ms. C. wrote:

RadioActive wrote:

   I'd like to know why they sold the CRTC on an Oldies format and then completely abandoned it before hitting air    

Are there any oldies-format broadcasters left within SOWNYs listening area?    Even AM-740 and 560 CFOS have gone largely best of the 70s, 80a + 90s 
 

There are a few oldies shows but a full time oldies station is getting hard to find anywhere. 
True boomers are still radio listeners but a lot of boomers possibly aren't big oldies fans, or prefer it in small doses rather than all the time. And the fact remains, if any station felt there was a need or demand for an all oldies FM it would have happened long ago. The tools have been in place for many years and nobody decided to make the change.  And I think in Toronto it is doubtful how many serious applications have actually been made over the past 20-25 years for an oldies FM.  Maybe one or two?  Frankly I am more surprised that Toronto doesn't have a country radio station, a few surrounding the city but none actually in town.  Business wise, country would be much more viable in Toronto than an oldies FM station.

Thanks to Durham Radio oldies is available in the east end of T.O. on the FM dial at 107.7 or the simulcast AM1580 which carries further. There's little if any 50's music but lots of 60's and a they also play anumber of 70's tunes you'll probably never hear on BOOM. Durham Radio also covers country through having a repeater stick in Toronto for 95.9.


 

SOWNY » AM “Reverberations:” Why I Wish Some Stations Still Used Echo » February 9, 2020 8:41 pm

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RadioActive wrote:

If you go back far enough, you’ll remember when almost every Top 40 station had some kind of echo effect, either on their announcers’ mics or on the records – or both. I always loved that slight reverb and thought it added a lot to the overall sound and presentation of a radio station.
 
It also added a lot to an AM radio signal, even before the advent of FM’s smoother sound. I’m not entirely sure when it went out of style (possibly when the FM music migration started) or why it’s no longer really used much on either band. It’s one of those artificial tricks that can really add excitement to a station’s sound – provided it’s not overdone or overused.
 
Does anyone still employ this audio trick anymore? I think maybe Sirius XM’s 60s on 6 does, but I’m not aware of any over-the-air broadcasters who still do.
 
Probably the most famous example was on WABC in the 60s, when it was over everything. That’s one of the reasons the place is so well remembered. (Back in those pre-computer days, the machine that made it happen was described as being the size of a mattress. Now it’s on a chip.)
 
And if used in the right circumstances, I still echo that feeling.

Appropos puns indeed. On the Canadian side I know CFOX  Montreal used the technique in the late 60's.
 

SOWNY » CHFI Turns 60 » February 9, 2020 8:24 pm

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RadioActive wrote:

Unlike CFRB, which reached 90 in 2017 and said nothing, the station marks the occasion with a spot, an on air celebration, a statement by the mayor and some vintage photos. 

CHFI Celebrates 60 Years 

It's all about imaging. CFRB had the image of being the station old people listened to so they dropped the calls from their branding and they do not want to go back. CHFI, on the other hand, still wears their calls proudly because essentially they have and are delivering a product that's relevant to music listeners. From the beginning they played what the largest segment of their target demo was in to. In the 60's and early 70's it was Mantovani; today it's Taylor Swift. They haven't remained ranked at or near the top by accident. 

SOWNY » Some Really Stupid Questions About Some Current Radio Spots » January 27, 2020 9:21 pm

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RadioActive wrote:

Finally, has there ever been a SUNNY day in Pizzaville?   

Consider it their calling cliche card along the lines of "It was a dark and stormy night".
 

SOWNY » Edge 102 morning show... » January 27, 2020 9:17 pm

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Radiowiz wrote:

markow202 wrote:

The whole station is somewhat forgotten about and lately been advertising quite a bit in commercials and billboards.  

Extremely funny attack ads. When did they drop the word rock? 

"Alternative Toronto"

 

"Rock" hasn't been in their imaging for quite some time. Until a few months ago they were "Toronto's alternative". Somehow they feel switching those words around makes for a catchier hook. If what they're doing now isn't working well enough it's probably time for a complete revamp of the marketing strategy. That might include picking a morning team and sticking with it  longer. The rapidly revolving door concept prevents any one team from making any kind of impression on listeners.

SOWNY » Family Feud Canada » January 10, 2020 6:39 pm

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She's somewhat reminiscent of Gilda Radner's classic Emily Litella character - "Oh, that's completely different. Never mind!"

SOWNY » New FM Station Sought For Pickering/Ajax - If There's Market Room » January 9, 2020 9:48 pm

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RadioAaron wrote:

Best way for that to happen would be for CKDO to launch more of that type of content. That would be great for the area.

A stand-alone startup would probably never get out of the red.

When Corus owned it, CKDO did try a talk format for a while but if memory serves it was never given the right resources to succeed.
 

SOWNY » A Radio Station That Celebrates Its History - Unlike CFRB » January 8, 2020 8:59 pm

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kman wrote:

paterson1 wrote:

CHUM also did a good job when they left the music format for good and  they said good bye to the city and listeners for about a month with old air checks, celebrities, vignettes, jingles and again former CHUM jocks on air.  

CKOC did the same before they abandoned the oldies/classic hits, and also had a big celebration for their 90th anniversary. CFRB interestingly is owned by the same company as CHUM and CKOC, however CHUM and 'OC were all about nostalgia while CFRB isn't.

It shows how times have changed. When CFRB turned 50 there was a tremendous amount of hoopla for a whole weekend with heritage clips, visits from former hosts and even a special jingle from then playlist stalwarts the Laurie Bower Singers. I believe subsequent owners came to see the station's lengthy heritage as a liability since it had an image of being a station for "old people". CFRB=Dinosaur, hence the rebranding in the last decade to exclude the call letters. 
At the same time its rather curious that their co-owned counterpart in Montreal (CJAD of course) still uses its heritage calls apparently with no similar concerns even though that station is around 75 years old.
 

SOWNY » This is an interesting look at the Australian Fires...on CKDO Radio » January 5, 2020 12:22 pm

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John D wrote:

We can receive CKDO on the AM band in the east end of Toronto quite clearly.  Their FM signal peters out around Pickering.  I would love to see owner Doug Kirk get permission to flip the station entirely to their FM signal only and increase the signal. 

I too will often tune them in when heading through the area. Their music mix is quite varied and seems to be quite wide. I believe CKDO's playlist is also a template for the Caledonia operation. 
As for power increasing on 107.7, they received one about ten years ago which improved their footprint but they are limited by having to protect 107.7 in Buffalo and 107.9 in Hamilton. The other important thing to note is the main licence is for the AM with the FM as a repeater so until the CRTC ownership rules change (ie. allowing more than 2 stations on FM in the same market) this situation will remain. 
At least where the FM peters out, 1580 AM  can still be heard for quite a way and, being a rare case of an omni directional AM, keeps most of its coverage area at night.

SOWNY » 97 Rock Buffalo Featuring 1970's A a to Z » December 30, 2019 9:20 pm

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This is the kind of programming the station has featured for quite a number of years and they also have regular weekday features that often spotlight the deeper cuts. And guess what? They are consistently among the highest rated stations in the market. We've been told for the last 25 years that smaller playlists are what always wins. I guess 97-Rock missed that "lesson". lol

SOWNY » And Ken Shaw's Replacement Is... » December 10, 2019 8:53 pm

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markow202 wrote:

I cant stop thinking about the Mike Tyson Downer had a few years back, everytime I see Downer.  Now Downer could use a bit of Tony Brown's enthusiasm when speaking.  Not that much, but a bit more.  

So, is it fitting that someone named Downer delivers the news? Another one for the "People whose names match their profession" file. https://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons3/cheerful.png

SOWNY » Do Radio Hosts Really Have To Use The Products They Shill For? » December 9, 2019 8:12 pm

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RadioActive wrote:

To me, it's one thing to talk FOR someone because you're paid to do so. That's why the Frank Leo spots don't bug me as much as they do some here, although I do think they're a bit much. But as long as Jerry Agar doesn't say he used the guy to sell his house, I'm fine with him acting as spokesperson..

That's just the issue. In Jerry's spots he clearly states that Frank Leo is the agent he would call if he needed to sell his house. If he doesn't move any time in the near future I guess no one can say. Time will tell.

SOWNY » Drake Named Artist of the Decade » December 5, 2019 7:01 pm

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mace wrote:

In today's Here today, gone later today world, will Drake and his so called music be around ten years from now. Probably not on Top 40 radio. Maybe on a Rap Gold or Retro Rap formatted station.

Well, not exactly true...Drake first charted in 2009 and has charted fairly consistently over the last decade. Nowadays that's considered longevity.

SOWNY » CKTB Undergoes Major Program Changes With Larry Fedoruk's Ouster » November 23, 2019 12:08 pm

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RadioActive wrote:

Rarely has a radio station made such wholesale changes as what’s about to take place at CKTB in St. Catharines.

Actually there was a considerable bloodletting day at that station some years back. I may have the timeline and order of events wrong but I believe it was when Bell (or might have been Globemedia at the time) was buying out the Telemedia stations of which CKTB was one.
 

SOWNY » More Cuts at Bell Media » November 16, 2019 12:34 pm

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potentiometer wrote:

Of course you're right, kevjo.

Almost everyone knows the story of Conrad Black when he started out. He and his partner, the equally likeable David  Radler,while  in the process of   buying a newspaper would count the desks in the newsroom to determine how many people  were going to be  axed. That was at least 40 years ago. It's likely  there was some fat then and some culling could be justified.  (Easy for me to say. I wasn't there.) But there's no fat anymore.  Now when they cut, they're cutting bone.  When Black wielded the axe in those newsrooms the product didn't suffer.

One can quote bottom lines and shareholder value, etc, and one can make a good case, I guess. But it's like the old story of the doctor who says, "The operation was a success, but the patient died." 

 

You are absolutely right about there being  no fat left to trim. We've seen erosion in product quality in many areas and certainly it's become painfully evident in radio. But there's a difference between then and now. At one time radio was owned by people who knew the business and were passionate about it. The big corps today are not so concerned about a watered-down  product as long as they can keep the profits up.


 

SOWNY » More Cuts at Bell Media » November 15, 2019 7:51 pm

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I feel terrible seeing good people lose their jobs and it is true that losing quality people can dilute the product.
That said, the fact about companies, particularly publicly-traded ones is they are not there to provide jobs. They are there to make as much money as possible for their shareholders. That's their mandate. Second fact is, staff wages comprise the biggest percentage of company expenses. Therefore, when a company needs to increase the profit the first place they look is salaries. We may not like it but that's the reality, pure and simple. Nowadays the only companies that still care about their people to any degree are the independents.

SOWNY » CKNT heard by DXer in Newfoundland » November 11, 2019 6:33 pm

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Media Observer wrote:

geo wrote:

mace wrote:

      My second floor condo fronts west and an empty lot is on the adjacent property.  Despite this the station is practically non existent for me over the air.  The same is true for car reception.   

Can you get AM 800 CJBQ (Freddy Vette 2 - 7:00) out of Cobourg?      Might work better if your unit faced east

 

No luck on AM 800,  however I can get AM 820 out of Hamilton.
 

Just a little correction - CJBQ is in Belleville.


 

SOWNY » Licence plates matching call letters » November 8, 2019 8:02 pm

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RadioActive wrote:

I actually saw CHCH in a parking lot last week. Also twice, I've seen CJRT, although the numbers weren't close to 91.1

Since I was driving I couldn't snap a pic but the other day saw a plate with CKEY 590. Coincidence or custom for a former radio person?

SOWNY » Chom FM Montreal turns 50 officially on October 28th » October 27, 2019 2:17 pm

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Muffaraw Joe wrote:

You know R.A. a lot of Toronto jocks got their start in Montreal, Live Earl was on CFNY, Mike Cooper did time in La Belle Province and in Ottawa, the late Gary Bell was on air in Montreal...

The rock radio scene in that city was pretty dynamic and Chom-fm, had an excitement to it...back in the early days...you'd hear a Cheech and Chong bit and then right into Elton John's Funeral for a friend...pretty good stuff, thanks for sharing this article!

 

And don't forget the legendary David Marsden also graced the CHOM airwaves prior to forming The Spirit of Radio at CFNY.
The Spirit of Rock is the moniker CHOM uses today. I was in Montreal this past summer and liked the walky they blended classic with new.

SOWNY » Chom FM Montreal turns 50 officially on October 28th » October 27, 2019 1:47 pm

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Muffaraw Joe wrote:

You know R.A. a lot of Toronto jocks got their start in Montreal, Live Earl was on CFNY, Mike Cooper did time in La Belle Province and in Ottawa, the late Gary Bell was on air in Montreal...

The rock radio scene in that city was pretty dynamic and Chom-fm, had an excitement to it...back in the early days...you'd hear a Cheech and Chong bit and then right into Elton John's Funeral for a friend...pretty good stuff, thanks for sharing this article!

 

Montreal and Toronto were both vibrant markets for rock radio. CHOM was and to some degree still is a uniquely local station playing a good mix and old and new. CHUM-FM carried the streetwise torch which Q107 eventually picked up. Q, in its early years kept that spirit alive with shows that featured up and comers on the T.O. scene. They would play artists that were local and not being played everywhere else. Then there was their series of Homegrown albums which served to ignite a couple of future stars such as Honeymoon Suite. At that time stations were programmed locally and offered a local flavour in their programming. 
 

SOWNY » Twas the week before some radio stations go all in on Christmas » October 25, 2019 6:52 pm

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RadioAaron wrote:

There's no universal 'right' time; only what works for each individual outlet.

Let's save a little time. Each year more than a few posters here will slam the thought of hearing all Christmas music; others will comment that they do it because it's very successful for the stations that do it. They wouldn't do it every year if it didn't work. Next comes, if you don't like it tune elsewhere. As for CHFI, the last several years their practice has been to start all Christmas the day of the Toronto parade and this year will likely be no different. now, can we move on? Nothing new to see here.

SOWNY » Buffalo Station Adds Unique Service On One Of Its HD Radio Channels » October 25, 2019 6:31 pm

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Tim Brown 2016 wrote:

Speaking of HD sub-channels, Indie 88 was supposed to be going HD with their power increase. Does anyone know what they're carrying on HD2? I was thinking it'd interesting if it were Rock 95.

Durham Radio's KX94.7 in Hamilton carries unique programming on its HD - smooth jazz. They've been doing it for quite some time.

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