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June 19, 2018 6:23 am  #1


This dead air on the Jazz FM morning is really bush league

Well, I am trying to give Spotify Jazz a chance...errr...i mean the new morning show at Jazz FM a chance...and then I get dead air for 10 minutes...and the BBC news is featured, but there is no news, just dead air at 7:21...

Sadly this station is done, this is going to be really hard to bounce back from!

Heck even Tommy Schmommy didn't do his usual bit this morning either...



 


The world would be so good if it weren't for some people...
 

June 19, 2018 6:27 am  #2


Re: This dead air on the Jazz FM morning is really bush league

I just came here to post this.  It's sad but their Board of Directors really screwed up.

Last edited by Leslieville Bill (June 19, 2018 6:29 am)


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June 19, 2018 11:46 am  #3


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Wow its gotten that bad and so fast? Shall we await Bell or Rogers to scoop them up?  Its a good signal from the CN Tower to use but its sadly the only Jazz station we got going (besides 90.3 at times which can be even better lol)

Last edited by markow202 (June 19, 2018 11:49 am)

 

June 19, 2018 12:13 pm  #4


Re: This dead air on the Jazz FM morning is really bush league

Bell or Rogers can't scoop them up.  They already own to many FM signals in the city.  It would have to be a new company.  Even Newcap has two FM signals. 

 

June 19, 2018 1:18 pm  #5


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CJRT has a "special" non-commercial (ie non-profit) license so Rogers or Bell or even Evanov could not scoop them up even if they wanted to. The best they could do is hope CJRT loses its license and then try to apply for it on a commercial basis. 

 

June 19, 2018 2:33 pm  #6


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Irvine wrote:

I'd look at this from the opposite point of view. I don't see it ending the station, I see it creating perhaps a better, cooler Jazz FM.  While I respect the station, it does seem "stuck" in a rut appealing to old white guys (who of course are generous with donations).  Everything needs a makeover, even a Jazz station. 

I think I know the answer to the question but I have to ask anyway; is there a place for Smooth Jazz on FM radio anymore? Perhaps not as a staple but as part of that fresher mix you were talking about. I did used to listen to smoothlounge.com and liked some of their more unusual stuff. DePhazz comes to mind.

 

June 19, 2018 3:09 pm  #7


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Tim Brown 2016 wrote:

is there a place for Smooth Jazz on FM radio anymore?

In a word, NO! This format is far too pretentious, even for the hipsters in Canada's armpit. Flip to Progressive Country. Trust.
 

 

June 19, 2018 3:24 pm  #8


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If they play 'Jazz Snob Eat Shit' by Naked City, I'm in.

 

June 19, 2018 3:43 pm  #9


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cGrant wrote:

Tim Brown 2016 wrote:

is there a place for Smooth Jazz on FM radio anymore?

Flip to Progressive Country. Trust.
 

Pardon my ignorance... Contrast today's Progressive Country with what would have been New Country back in the 90s.

 

June 19, 2018 4:26 pm  #10


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Hansa is absolutely correct about the license.  Very unique license.

 

June 19, 2018 4:38 pm  #11


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Hansa wrote:

CJRT has a "special" non-commercial (ie non-profit) license so Rogers or Bell or even Evanov could not scoop them up even if they wanted to. The best they could do is hope CJRT loses its license and then try to apply for it on a commercial basis. 

They still couldn't.

 

June 19, 2018 7:57 pm  #12


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the only toronto commercial player who could buy this is rock95.  but since it is a community license why would they want it?  it isn't easy to change designations

 

June 19, 2018 8:46 pm  #13


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As could the owners of G98.7....but I think we're overreacting a bit here. It's a rough patch for sure, but reports of JAZZ.FM's death are premature to say the least. 

 

June 19, 2018 8:53 pm  #14


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And also to miss the obvious, Moses could buy it, where it would be a natural fit. 

 

June 19, 2018 9:23 pm  #15


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Don wrote:

And also to miss the obvious, Moses could buy it, where it would be a natural fit. 

 
Moses has classical plus a 740 fm repeater.  crtc says an fm repeater is a second station on the band. 

but... moses has a good lawyer!

 

June 20, 2018 4:57 am  #16


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splunge wrote:

the only toronto commercial player who could buy this is rock95 

rock 95 is considered a toronto commercial player?
 

 

June 20, 2018 6:07 am  #17


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They did manage to fix the timing of their morning feed.  BBC news came on at 7:00am as it should.


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June 20, 2018 6:32 am  #18


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geo wrote:

splunge wrote:

the only toronto commercial player who could buy this is rock95 

rock 95 is considered a toronto commercial player?
 

 They currently own CIND at 88.1, which makes them part of the Toronto broadcasting scene.

 

June 20, 2018 8:34 am  #19


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There have been a number of "frequency swaps" approved by the CRTC over the years, where a commercial broadcaster with an inferior frequency has paid a significant amount to a "community" broadcaster to switch.  Best example is Pattison's "Peak" CKPK vancouver which swapped frequencies with Vancouver community radio CFRO in 2010.

There have been overtures by commercial broadcasters to CJRT management over the years, but they've never been interested, because of the massive coverage from CN Tower that they have.  Perhaps as things become financially difficult they will reconsider.  Even the largest broadcasters - Newcap and Rogers would benefit from a frequency swap...(93.5, or 92.5)

Pattison got a great deal:"The licensee also proposes to change the authorized contours by increasing the average effective radiated power from 2,700 to 51,000 watts (maximum effective radiated power from 11,000 to 100,000 watts with an effective height of antenna above average terrain of 590.4 metres).The licensee offers that such an exchange in frequencies would allow CKPK-FM to operate more efficiently through its use of the 102.7 MHz frequency and enable it to compete on a level playing field in the Vancouver commercial radio market.As part of the frequency exchange, Jim Pattison Broadcast Group Limited Partnership proposes to provide CFRO-FM technical, financial and marketing support for a period of 5 years for a total value of $1,437,000."

 

June 20, 2018 9:35 am  #20


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And let's not forget Durham Radio.  Doug Kirk is a great radio man; with three stations in Oshawa, two plus an internet station; in Hamilton.

Last edited by AMFM (June 20, 2018 9:52 am)

 

June 20, 2018 10:12 am  #21


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splunge wrote:

Don wrote:

And also to miss the obvious, Moses could buy it, where it would be a natural fit. 

 
Moses has classical plus a 740 fm repeater. crtc says an fm repeater is a second station on the band.

but... moses has a good lawyer!

Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't. Durham Radio in Oshawa for example, where CKDO's FM repeater doesn't count. At any rate, I bet they'd gladly trade off the tiny 96.7 to get 91.1

 

June 20, 2018 12:31 pm  #22


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Don wrote:

Hansa wrote:

CJRT has a "special" non-commercial (ie non-profit) license so Rogers or Bell or even Evanov could not scoop them up even if they wanted to. The best they could do is hope CJRT loses its license and then try to apply for it on a commercial basis. 

They still couldn't.

What I mean is, if CJRT had their license pulled the CRTC could presumably open the frequency up to new applicants and award it to a commercial broadcaster with a commercial license. They wouldn't automatically reserve it for another "special" (non-profit, community, educational, or cultural) licensee just as when CKLN lost its community license, its frequency was awarded to a commercial broadcaster rather than another community applicant. I don't think CJRT's about to lose its license over a few minutes of dead air one morning, though.

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June 20, 2018 1:25 pm  #23


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The frequency and signal should go to Evanov 

 

June 23, 2018 7:56 am  #24


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June 23, 2018 11:36 am  #25


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Irvine wrote:

Do we need another Burger King?

Like it or not, we do.
Very bad analogy. Too many Burger Kings have closed down in Toronto. 
Bloor & Bathurst
Yonge & Eglinton 
Leslieville location (now a Starbucks)
Overlea blvd location (across from East York Town centre)
Sheppard Centre...to name 5.

Maybe in your neck of the woods there's too many Burger kings but here in Toronto that analogy is not gonna fly.
Toronto really does need more actual Burger king restaurants. 
Hopefully they'll open more soon.
 

 

June 24, 2018 12:35 am  #26


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Irvine wrote:

You know RW, I haven't decided if you're just being a troll or a complete twit. 
 

If you were to say McDonald's we wouldn't even be having this conversation.
Stop being an ass.