Posted by RadioActive ![]() October 26, 2025 5:24 pm | #1 |
Not sure I agree, but this Toronto Star columnist picks Fox over Dan & Buck.
He believes the U.S. broadcaster is just more prepared and that it shows. Here's just one example he cites.
"When Addison Barger hit his pinch-hit grand slam in the sixth inning of Game 1, Fox immediately flagged the history, calling it the first pinch-hit grand slam in World Series history. That is the Elias Sports Bureau at work, and it is worth the investment. Sportsnet eventually got the note on air via a Jeff Passan post, and Shulman credited it properly, but the moment had already passed."
Fox TV has embraced the World Series moment. Sportsnet needs to up its game
Posted by SpinningWheel ![]() October 26, 2025 7:44 pm | #2 |
Fox coverage minimized the use of the on screen batting box that shows where the pitch was over the plate and how fast. They only used it during replays for what I saw, keeping the live action old school and leaving the viewer to see it as if they were live and not challenging the Ump's calls with technology.
Meanwhile, Sportsnet uses the same on screen tool for every pitch. I guess Sportsnet thinks Canadian fans are newbies and need something like that on screen all the time, but it did remind me of (coincidentally) Fox sports constant use of the glowing puck (1997-1998) that Canadian fans used to laugh at, thinking that US audiences didn't have the hockey mojo and needed the silly thing to follow the play. .
And another thing I noticed with the audio. I listen to the games with a Dolby 5.1 surround sound system and the Sportsnet mix was excellent. When I switched to Fox, the middle speaker with the commentary vanished so I heard the announcers from the side and effect speakers as if it was in the background. When I switch to stereo it picked up the commentary perfectly. This was also a problem with the CBLT Hockey Night In Canada feeds for years and only changed in recent times. My research revealed it had to to do with some of the station's audio gear not being up to date. I was surprised to see Fox / CITY's feed having that problem as the US sources are almost always great with 5.1.
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Posted by mojo55 ![]() October 26, 2025 11:18 pm | #3 |
I disagree with Siegel and agree with SpinningWheel. I triied watching the Fox telecast for awhile but had to give up. For some reason the audio of Davis and Smolz commentaries was being drowned out by loud music and crowd noise. Why would Fox use loud music to accompany the play-by-play description? This is not a dance contest or talent show! The play-by-play should be foreground not background audio. The fact that Fox beat Sportsnet with the historical significance of Barger's home run is no big deal. There was not really any urgency to finding that out. Additionally, Dan Shulman is way better at calling the action than Joe Davis at Fox. Finally, I actually like having the strike zone box to help me determine the accuracy of the umpire's decisions.
Posted by mace ![]() Yesterday 10:17 am | #4 |
I prefer Dan and Buck's commentary and I also like Sportsnet's use of the strike zone box. Viewers have become spoiled with all the multiple camera angles and slow motion instant replays. While the World Series was televised as early as 1947, it wasn't available nationally until 1951. NBC had only three camera angles. The primary one was behind home plate with two others showing the dugouts plus first and third base. At the end of each inning there were no graphics to show the score. A camera zoomed in on the stadium scoreboard. Extremely primitive but viewers could watch the game now instead of listening to it on the radio. As for the centre field camera, which is the primary one used today, it was first used by WGN in 1951 during a little legue game. NBC introduced this camera angle during the 1957 World Series. A few other World Series firsts. 1955: in Colour. 1957: First use of Analyst with the broadcaster. 1961: 30 second replay regular speed available in certain situations. Audio improved so audiences can hear the crack of the bat. 1969: Commentators can now stand in front of a greenscreen composite of the stadium crowd. Replays now longer than 30 seconds and electronic graphics are introduced. 1974: Slow motion replay arrives. Cameras now at first and third base, home, centre field, left field and each dugout. Probably the piece of technology we take for granted is the FoxBox Graphic which contained the score, inning, balls strikes and runners on base. It was introduced to MLB IN 1996, although FOX had been using it on their NFL broadcasts since 1994.
Posted by paterson1 ![]() Yesterday 10:45 am | #5 |
I enjoy the FOX broadcast for a few technical innovations, but don't get why the audio mix is off, and too much compression on the sound. I have noticed this on a few NFL broadcasts on FOX where the crowd noise drowns out the commentary. FOX is a nice change and they have a higher energy level both video and audio than Sportsnet IMO. But it does seem a little overdone occasionally, especially with a few of their over excited on air people.
After watching FOX for usually for a few innings, I will flip to Sportsnet which has better audio with a more natural "ball park" sound. I prefer the on air crew overall on Sportsnet who seem a little more grounded or something.
In terms of camera angles and graphics. FOX has glitzier graphics and they are about tied for camerawork. Sportsnet uses the drone more and FOX has that funky camera angle a few feet in front of home plate looking up from the ground to the batter which is pretty cool.
Posted by scrand ![]() Yesterday 11:33 am | #6 |
As long as I don't have to listen to Buck Martinez then anything is better....so yea I'm watching the Fox coverage. Captain Obvious is a master of telling you what you just saw but the fact that he can't start a sentence without saying "Yea" first drives me crazy...a drinking game where you have to just take a swallow of your beer when he says "Yea" every time would have you drunk by the third inning and passed out by the 5th. I know Jays fans love him but if you are an otherwise fan of baseball (not a blue kool-aid drinking fan) he teaches you almost nothing that you might not already know. Smoltz can be very dry and low key at times but he can give you insights that I never hear from Buck.
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Posted by ig ![]() Yesterday 12:55 pm | #7 |
As someone who knows _nothing_ about baseball, I found Fox coverage easier to understand what was going on, but enjoyed the colour commentary of Sportsnet. From a technical standpoint, I found the Fox video a lot cleaner; for some reason, Sportsnet's 4k seems to always be really oversaturated and not honestly worth of 4k. As for the audio mix, Sportsnet won by a landslide. The Fox mix was brutal at best.
Posted by RadioActive ![]() Yesterday 8:57 pm | #8 |
Speaking of the audio on the Fox broadcast, it turns out the music on the broadcast is up to one person - someone you never get to see. But if you watch the U.S. coverage, you've heard his work.
"The signature low-end Oberheim synthesizer at the beginning of Tom Sawyer by Rush plays in the background as the FOX broadcast of the World Series goes to commercial break. The Toronto Blue Jays are getting ready to come up in the next inning, and the tie-in of the music is unmistakable: Rush is Canada’s most well-known music artist with Tom Sawyer being a classic rock anthem. Toronto… Canada… Rush… it all ties together."
Inside The Art Of Commercial Break Music For FOX’s Broadcast Of The World Series
Posted by torontostan ![]() Yesterday 9:30 pm | #9 |
Sportsnet just played Alejandro by Lady Gaga going into the commercial break following Kirk's three-run homer. Sometimes these music decisions are made for them
Posted by Radiowiz ![]() Yesterday 9:35 pm | #10 |
As much as I might want the American commercials, I do have to say the Canadian announcers are doing a good job.
Posted by Radiowiz ![]() Today 2:39 am | #11 |
In the 18th inning:
"I didn't know the review centre would be open at this hour...bet'cha they ordered in pizza!"
The Sportsnet announcers have a great sense of humour. ![]()
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