Solution to Political Threads

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Posted by Jody Thornton
November 3, 2024 2:25 am
#1

Hey RA, since this is related to the now locked "National Post" thread, I wanted to pass along an idea.

Because these topics can veer political, what if there was an "off-topic" forum section made?  Would that help with those issues?  That way, those interested can espouse their views, yet keep politics away from radio/television related threads.

Just a thought

 


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Posted by RadioActive
November 3, 2024 7:48 am
#2

Thanks for the idea Jody. I'll think about it, but I fear it will continue to piss off many users, even in a separate section.

I can't tell you the amount of off board DMs I get every time these things go too far and start veering off into these topics. They don't come here for that and many feel they're being bashed or subjected to extremes they'd rather not face. 

I think we have a pretty good thing going here and I hope people understand I'm not trying to censor anyone. I just want to keep the peace. This isn't a political forum. There are plenty of places on the web you can go to find one.

This topic always ends up in warring factions. God knows, we have enough wars in the world. And I don't mean Orson Welles!

 
Posted by Paul Jeffries
November 3, 2024 8:57 am
#3

RadioActive wrote:

Thanks for the idea Jody. I'll think about it, but I fear it will continue to piss off many users, even in a separate section.

Have to admit I agree with that, RA. Anytime there's a thread that even just touches on politics I find myself thinking, "Okay, how long before this goes down a rabbit hole that we can't climb out of?" Sadly, most of them do.

Although a separate section for political threads is not necessarily a bad idea, you're still inevitably going to get posters trying to sneak politics into non-political threads. It happens on social media all the time.

I do think the best option is what you've always told us: "It's okay to disagree, it's not okay to be disagreeable." 

Or as the previous admin used to say: "Keep it positive and don't be an asshole."

Same sentiment, just slightly different wording. 



PJ
 


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Posted by turkeytop
November 3, 2024 9:51 am
#4

Here, in south-west Ontario, I often read and post on the Michigan radio board. It has a forum just for poltitical threads.

https://mibuzzboard.com/phpBB3/index.php

 


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Posted by Dale Patterson
November 3, 2024 12:30 pm
#5

Anytime a topic veers political, just delete it. Not just the political posts, but the entire thread. You need to be consistent on this. Eventually people will get the message.

Last edited by Dale Patterson (November 3, 2024 12:45 pm)


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Posted by Shorty Wave
November 3, 2024 12:46 pm
#6

Dale Patterson wrote:

Anytime a topic veers political, just delete it. Not just the political posts, but the entire thread. Eventually people will get the message.

 
Or just close the topic, as some of us may be interested in why a post is under the microscope and learn from  it, like I did!

Last edited by Shorty Wave (November 3, 2024 12:47 pm)

 
Posted by turkeytop
November 3, 2024 1:04 pm
#7

I'm a socialist.


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Posted by paterson1
November 3, 2024 1:15 pm
#8

If you have a separate section for off topics, just don't go to it if anything political annoys you.  Like RA says, don't read the post, or in this case just don't visit that section in the first place.  I think we also need to not be so picky about what is and isn't political.  If it crosses with media, then it should be fair game. And it is hard to post with some media topics and not cross into politics.  This is only an issue if we make it one.  

I think the off topic section won't be all politics anyway.  Many of us post items that aren't really broadcast oriented.  In the past we have had lengthy threads regarding retail stores, or the demise of a company, or a product no longer available, memories of old Toronto etc.  So, I say give it a shot. I think like other separate categories on the SOWNY site it would have some interest but irregular, especially after this or the upcoming federal election. 

If the off topic section became stupid with just conspiracy garbage and a shoutfest for four or five people with personal attacks.  Shut it down, and never to return again.  But given the tone of most members here, I feel it could be much more than political. 

 
Posted by g121
November 3, 2024 1:16 pm
#9

My dilemma is the concept of “silence is consent” ..  When no objection/challenge is raised, silence implies consent/agreement. 

Which means some statements must be challenged. 

So a poster that initiates the thread drift into political dissension is the agitator who knows darn well what they're doing & knowing it is a forum transgression.  We all see who the most frequent culprit initiators are.  If they don't respect RA's directive, what respect should they expect to receive? 

 

 
Posted by mic'em
November 4, 2024 8:07 am
#10

I am on several classic car forums, the rules are no political threads at all. You get one warning, than banishment. There are hundreds, if not thousands of political forums. We come here for radio, tv and associated discussions. Stick to your guns RA. 

 
Posted by mace
November 4, 2024 8:41 am
#11

turkeytop wrote:

Here, in south-west Ontario, I often read and post on the Michigan radio board. It has a forum just for poltitical threads.

https://mibuzzboard.com/phpBB3/index.php

 

I do like his rules for the two political forums. It is not for the intellectually weak or those with thin skins.

 
Posted by TomTV
November 4, 2024 2:59 pm
#12

I personally wish there was a dedicated political thread (which those who don't want to get involved with can simply just stay out of it). I'm not interested in getting into screaming matches with right-wingers, but as I mentioned in the National Post thread I do want to discuss the implications of the enormous propaganda being perpetrated in PostMedia newspapers.

Neither the TV news nor newspapers are ever, EVER going to cover this, for obvious reasons. Even if you're not a PostMedia-owned publication, you won't write about it as it hurts the entire industry to be seen as a purveyor of any kind of propaganda (left or right) and would only further public mistrust of an industry that is already slowly dying.

And we are heading into a Federal campaign soon, I personally don't want to see brainwashing techniques used to elect our country's next leader, especially when it will decide critical issues like ongoing financial support for Ukraine (the PCs voted against financial support and I strongly worry that Ukraine will be abandoned the second Trudeau is gone), carbon tax implementation and other climate change fighting initiatives, and right-to-abortion.  The news media are shaping the public perception of whether these issues are good or bad for society, we should be discussing who is controlling that news agenda (billionaires? Russians? The Indian government?) not silencing it.


 

 
Posted by RadioActive
November 4, 2024 3:03 pm
#13

I assure you I'm not trying to silence anyone. I just would like it taken to a more appropriate forum than one about local radio and TV.

And you're not entirely wrong about that being an interesting media topic. The problem is that it always, always, always, devolves into a bitter left vs. right argument that is not about media at all and leaves bad feelings among posters and resentments amongst those trying to avoid politics altogether.

So like the computer in the movie War Games, I have to conclude that the only way to win is not to play. 

Last edited by RadioActive (November 4, 2024 3:07 pm)

 
Posted by Fitz
November 4, 2024 3:57 pm
#14

turkeytop wrote:

Here, in south-west Ontario, I often read and post on the Michigan radio board. It has a forum just for poltitical threads.

https://mibuzzboard.com/phpBB3/index.php

 

I just had a look at about two pages of the politics thread on the forum and was surprised that it appears to be 90 % Trump weary. Surprised because they are in a country where so many don't see the bizarre things that Trump says and does on Fox News. ( except for the one time when they cover a rally live).

Will revisit the board and thread when I have time.
 

Last edited by Fitz (November 4, 2024 3:58 pm)


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Posted by TomTV
November 6, 2024 2:28 pm
#15

RadioActive wrote:

I assure you I'm not trying to silence anyone. I just would like it taken to a more appropriate forum than one about local radio and TV.

And you're not entirely wrong about that being an interesting media topic. The problem is that it always, always, always, devolves into a bitter left vs. right argument that is not about media at all and leaves bad feelings among posters and resentments amongst those trying to avoid politics altogether.

So like the computer in the movie War Games, I have to conclude that the only way to win is not to play. 

I understand. It's hard enough for me to go onto Twitter where this topic does degenerate quickly (although I think that the difference there is that the Russians, Chinese, and North Koreans actively employ troll farms to agitate any discussions between left and right wing parties, to ensure that there is never any consensus and that we become even more hardened in our views).

Perhaps it is pointless anyway. As we saw last night, the typical American cares more about saving 50 cents on gasoline than they do about the reproductive rights of women, the innocent lives in Ukraine, or the fact that the leader of the free world is a pedophile, Russian asset, con man, and in his own words, a dictator on day one of his new presidency. The billionaires shaped what the American voters saw throughout this campaign and in the end they won, there won't be a tax on the ultra-rich as the Democrats had planned for. And I fully expect the Conservatives will learn a lot from that example (not that they haven't already known how well controlling the news media works in their favor).

 

 


 
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