A Lacklustre CHUM Chart September 1, 1973

Skip to: New Posts  Last Post
Posted by paterson1
September 1, 2024 10:53 am
#1

This is one CHUM chart where I can honestly say, I don t remember some of these songs that likely haven't had much airplay in decades.  Goodbye Mama from Dave Nichols, Johnny Taylor I Believe in You, Gypsy Man from War,  A Million to One and the flip Young Love from Donny Osmond.  I don't remember any of these being hits.  I never played any of thim in my time on radio. 

Interesting that the Monster Mash had a second life on the CHUM chart and was number one on this date in 1973. Toronto writer and singer Tony Kosinec had a one hit wonder with All Things Come From God.  Tony was also the producer and one of the writers for OK Blue Jays which is heard during the 7th inning stretch for home games.

Kind of a nothing chart IMO.  But it is interesting that the station played both Smoke On The Water and Sweet Gypsy Rose and charted these songs in September 1973.  
 

 
Posted by newsguy1
September 1, 2024 2:00 pm
#2

Ah, yes, "Half Breed" by Cher.  I'd like to hear her sing that now.
How about "Delilah." does Tom Jones still sing that song about murdering his cheating girlfriend?
Even "Sharona" by the Knack is kinda creepy, "I always get it up for the touch of the younger kind."
Or that great Beatles song, "If I catch you with another man that's the end, little girl."
And, of course, the once smash hit, "Every Breath You Take" by the police. All about stalking your girlfriend.
Can anyone else think of songs like these which would not be likely to see the light of day in the 2020s?

 

 
Posted by RadioActive
September 1, 2024 2:09 pm
#3

I always thought Sandy Posey's "Single Girl," with the lyric "A single girl needs a sweet lovin' man to lean on," might not pass muster today. Maybe one of the reasons it never gets played.

 
Posted by MJ Vancouver
September 1, 2024 4:03 pm
#4

Dave Nicol sounds more like the old president of Loblaws who starred in numerous commercials in the 80s and early 90s.

 
Posted by mace
September 1, 2024 4:50 pm
#5

What I noticed is there are nine songs that have been on the chart a minimum of 10 weeks. Back in 1968 and 69 a song rarely lasted 9 weeks on the chart.

 
Posted by RadioActive
September 1, 2024 8:04 pm
#6

Speaking of weird CHUM Chart anomalies, July 28, 1971 contains an inexplicable mystery - two charts issued for the same week, with songs in different places. It's never been explained how or why this happened. 



And then there's this oddity - a correction on the Chart, the only time it ever happened.

 

From The CHUM Tribute Site

 
Posted by Evuguy
September 1, 2024 9:57 pm
#7

Re: The September 1973 CHUM chart: Not lackluster for me. There are some great songs on that chart and I still have three of the 45's shown on that chart. Likely bought them at either Sam's or Eaton's, which both used the CHUM chart for their 45's, if I recall.

 

Last edited by Evuguy (September 1, 2024 10:01 pm)

 
Posted by kevjo
September 2, 2024 5:47 am
#8

paterson1 wrote:

This is one CHUM chart where I can honestly say, I don t remember some of these songs that likely haven't had much airplay in decades.  Goodbye Mama from Dave Nichols, Johnny Taylor I Believe in You, Gypsy Man from War,  A Million to One and the flip Young Love from Donny Osmond.  I don't remember any of these being hits.  I never played any of thim in my time on radio. 

Interesting that the Monster Mash had a second life on the CHUM chart and was number one on this date in 1973. Toronto writer and singer Tony Kosinec had a one hit wonder with All Things Come From God.  Tony was also the producer and one of the writers for OK Blue Jays which is heard during the 7th inning stretch for home games.

Kind of a nothing chart IMO.  But it is interesting that the station played both Smoke On The Water and Sweet Gypsy Rose and charted these songs in September 1973.  
 

All the songs you mentioned were legitimate hits and are further proof as to just how diverse Top 40 radio once was.
I remember the Dave Nicol track getting airplay, later learning it was Can-Con. I never did learn what caused Monster Mash to rechart but it was across the board. Especially strange that it happened during the summer instead of closer to Hallowe'en.

 
Posted by Lorne
September 2, 2024 6:39 am
#9

I had also long wondered what had caused "Monster Mash" to rechart, which it first briefly did in the US in the summer of 1970 (#91 BB) before becoming a major hit across both Canada and the US in 1973. Finally found competing explanations about this from Pickett and from Kal Rudman of Record World at 45cat. I'm inclined to believe what Rudman said, as he has very specific info about the way that it happened. 

I also remember the other songs quite well. I liked "Goodbye Mama" in particular, and this got me wondering about what Dave Nicol might have gone on to do after that song ... found some good info about him at The Canadian Pop Music Encyclopedia. Nice to see that he's continued to write and record to the present day. 

 
Posted by Evuguy
September 2, 2024 10:48 pm
#10

Re: Monster Mash - The 45 I have is indeed dated 1970, yet it was bought in 1973.  It was on the Parrot label. From what I just read, the song was initially published in 1962. It also re-entered the Billboard chart in 2021.

 
Posted by Tq345
September 3, 2024 9:42 am
#11

Evuguy wrote:

Re: Monster Mash - The 45 I have is indeed dated 1970, yet it was bought in 1973.  It was on the Parrot label. From what I just read, the song was initially published in 1962. It also re-entered the Billboard chart in 2021.

 
It's quite a coincidence that you included Brother Louie by The Stories. It was a selection on Heardle (the musical version of Wordle) today.

And yes, I was able to identify it in the time allowed.

I remember loving the tune back in '73 when I was only 10.

 
Posted by Shorty Wave
September 4, 2024 8:37 am
#12

paterson1 wrote:

This is one CHUM chart where I can honestly say, I don t remember some of these songs that likely haven't had much airplay in decades.  Goodbye Mama from Dave Nichols, Johnny Taylor I Believe in You, Gypsy Man from War,  A Million to One and the flip Young Love from Donny Osmond.  I don't remember any of these being hits.  I never played any of thim in my time on radio. 

Interesting that the Monster Mash had a second life on the CHUM chart and was number one on this date in 1973. Toronto writer and singer Tony Kosinec had a one hit wonder with All Things Come From God.  Tony was also the producer and one of the writers for OK Blue Jays which is heard during the 7th inning stretch for home games.

Kind of a nothing chart IMO.  But it is interesting that the station played both Smoke On The Water and Sweet Gypsy Rose and charted these songs in September 1973.  
 

 
Many of you are probably aware that AM740 plays the old CHUM charts on their “Top Ten at Ten” and the “Next Eleven at Eleven” weekdays. Yesterday, Sept. 3rd, they played this exact chart and it was odd that I read this and heard it played back shortly thereafter. Some of the tunes I had never heard before, like paterson1 I didn’t remember the Donny Osmond “A Million to One” for example, and some of them were just plain not great, host Robbie Lane even questioned some of the hits merits! Still, fun listening on a weekday morning while tidying my garage.

 
Posted by Lorne
September 4, 2024 10:08 am
#13

"A Million To One" and "Young Love" only reached #23 and #25 respectively on Billboard, so I think that's contributed to them being largely forgotten today. But Donny's previous single, "The Twelfth Of Never", had spent six weeks at #1 on CHUM (compared to only reaching #8 on Billboard), and so it certainly wasn't surprising that they would play both sides of his followup and that it would also reach the top 10.  

 
Posted by Dicky Doo
September 4, 2024 12:05 pm
#14

Lorne wrote:

"A Million To One" and "Young Love" only reached #23 and #25 respectively on Billboard, so I think that's contributed to them being largely forgotten today 

YOUNG LOVE by SONNY JAMES - peaked at #1 in 1957.     Tab Hunter's cover peaked at 2, same year 

A MILLION TO ONE by JIMMY CHARLES - peaked at #5 1960

Some might suggest that Osmond's 1973 covers of both were attempts to monetize (what was left of) bubble gum 

 

 
Posted by Lorne
September 4, 2024 2:03 pm
#15

Actually, my copy of Joel Whitburn's Billboard Book of Top 40 Hits shows Tab Hunter's version as reaching #1 on all four of the pre-Hot 100 Billboard pop charts. James' version, however, only reached #1 on one of those charts and peaked at #2 on two of the others, so maybe that's what you were thinking of. Also worth mentioning is that The Crew-Cuts had a top 40 hit with it as well.

 
Posted by Fitz
September 4, 2024 2:20 pm
#16

Gotta chime in on Stories of Brother Louie fame. The original group was led by Michael Brown who was previously the leader of baroque rock semi-legends The Left Banke.  Stories first album spawned a regional hit called I'm Coming Home. Brown left after the second album "About Us'" was competed and the group recorded  Brother Louie ( a Hot Chocolate cover) after he left and it was eventually added to the album.

The Brown led Stories were a bit of an amalgam between baroque rock and power pop. The albums were not played in this area but I read positive reviews and bought the albums,  which I still have. Another band mining somewhat the same  was former Box Tops Alex Chilton's Big Star. Also not played in this area but developed quite a cult following and their albums are also top notch. 

Last edited by Fitz (September 4, 2024 2:23 pm)


Cool Airchecks and More:
http://www.lettheuniverseanswer.com/
 
Posted by RadioActive
September 4, 2024 6:01 pm
#17

paterson1 wrote:

This is one CHUM chart where I can honestly say, I don t remember some of these songs that likely haven't had much airplay in decades.  Goodbye Mama from Dave Nichols, Johnny Taylor I Believe in You, Gypsy Man from War,  A Million to One and the flip Young Love from Donny Osmond.  I don't remember any of these being hits.  I never played any of thim in my time on radio. 

Interesting that the Monster Mash had a second life on the CHUM chart and was number one on this date in 1973. Toronto writer and singer Tony Kosinec had a one hit wonder with All Things Come From God.  Tony was also the producer and one of the writers for OK Blue Jays which is heard during the 7th inning stretch for home games.

Kind of a nothing chart IMO.  But it is interesting that the station played both Smoke On The Water and Sweet Gypsy Rose and charted these songs in September 1973.  
 

CHUM wasn't the only station that had what we would now consider unknown tunes on their charts. These aren't from the same week, but around the same time of year (August 1973.) One is from CKLC in Kingston. Another from the late lamented CJBK in London. Some of the songs are very familiar. But others? Check out CKLC's Chart:

"Living Without You" by Creamcheeze? Who? "Lately Love" by Bob Ruzika? Or how about Steeler's Wheel with their classic "Everyone's Agreed." Does anyone know who Tammy Rafferty or Sea Dog is?



In London, I've never heard of Cliff & Ann Edwards. And Lobo's "How Can I Tell Her?" is not familiar to me, although I know Kent Lavoie's other more well known songs. I suspect if you look at charts from across the country and the U.S. there are local hits that even those who were listening at the time wouldn't really remember.

So I'm not discounting P1's initial observation, just that it seems to have been the case in other markets as well, especially in those early days of CanCon.

 
Posted by turkeytop
September 4, 2024 6:48 pm
#18

RadioActive wrote:

I always thought Sandy Posey's "Single Girl," with the lyric "A single girl needs a sweet lovin' man to lean on," might not pass muster today. Maybe one of the reasons it never gets played.

Just change the Single Girl title to "Childless Cat Lady."
 


After all is said and done, more is usually said than done.
 
Posted by Lorne
September 4, 2024 6:52 pm
#19

Ok, here goes:
"'Everyone's Agreed That Everything Will Turn Out Fine" was Stealers Wheel's followup to "Stuck In The Middle With You"; it got to #49 on Billboard.
"How Can I Tell Her" was Lobo's fourth top 40 in a row on BB in 1972-73; it reached #22.
All of the others are Cancon.
Creamcheeze was actually the Creamcheeze Good-Time Band, in case that helps any.  I remember hearing "Living Without You" a fair amount on one local station, which if memory serves was CKFH.
I can still remember how "Lately Love" goes, as it got a fair amount of airplay on CHUM -- in particular on Saturday and Sunday mornings, back when they played nonstop Cancon between 6 and 9 a.m. But like many of the songs that they played during those time slots, it never charted. 
Cliff and Ann Edwards came from The Bells, where Cliff had been the male lead and Ann was the sister of the female lead (Jackie Ralph).
Tammy Rafferty's "Find Yourself A Boy" was a major hit on CKOC, I think reaching their top 5 (once again, I can still remember it even though I haven't heard it in ages). But I don't think CHUM ever played it.
And I don't ever recall hearing Sea Dog played on CHUM either, even though they were on CHUM's Much label. I do wonder if CHUM might have wanted to avoid looking like they were showing favouritism to the artists on their label, and I never heard Sea Dog on any other station in the area.

 
Posted by Fitz
September 4, 2024 6:57 pm
#20

Everyone's Agreed that Everything Will Turn Out Fine was a good song. Reminds me of the Hollies The Day That Curley Billy Shot Down Crazy Sam McGee and how that was direct lift from a previous hit of Theirs.







 


Cool Airchecks and More:
http://www.lettheuniverseanswer.com/
 
Posted by Fitz
September 4, 2024 7:24 pm
#21

Lorne wrote:

Ok, here goes:
"'Everyone's Agreed That Everything Will Turn Out Fine" was Stealers Wheel's followup to "Stuck In The Middle With You"; it got to #49 on Billboard.
"How Can I Tell Her" was Lobo's fourth top 40 in a row on BB in 1972-73; it reached #22.
All of the others are Cancon.
Creamcheeze was actually the Creamcheeze Good-Time Band, in case that helps any.  I remember hearing "Living Without You" a fair amount on one local station, which if memory serves was CKFH.
I can still remember how "Lately Love" goes, as it got a fair amount of airplay on CHUM -- in particular on Saturday and Sunday mornings, back when they played nonstop Cancon between 6 and 9 a.m. But like many of the songs that they played during those time slots, it never charted. 
Cliff and Ann Edwards came from The Bells, where Cliff had been the male lead and Ann was the sister of the female lead (Jackie Ralph).
Tammy Rafferty's "Find Yourself A Boy" was a major hit on CKOC, I think reaching their top 5 (once again, I can still remember it even though I haven't heard it in ages). But I don't think CHUM ever played it.
And I don't ever recall hearing Sea Dog played on CHUM either, even though they were on CHUM's Much label. I do wonder if CHUM might have wanted to avoid looking like they were showing favouritism to the artists on their label, and I never heard Sea Dog on any other station in the area.

Did not see your post when I wrote mine about Stealers Wheel but a fine song that some may find a nice alternate to "Stuck".
 


Cool Airchecks and More:
http://www.lettheuniverseanswer.com/
 


 
Main page
Login
Desktop format