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SOWNY » Results of the Spring 2018 diary ratings » Yesterday 6:57 pm

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There's one more "confession" I should make about my diary experience and I admit it's not my finest hour. Unlike many who might have gotten the book to fill out, I was well aware that I could easily punish on air people I'm not fond of by completely ignoring them (and therefore denying them even a small rating boost) or deliberately listening to someone I might otherwise not tune into, just to give them a little Numeris "love."

On the latter point, I recall tuning out Jerry Agar on RB (who I quite enjoy normally) even though he was talking about a subject I was interested in and going over to Mike Stafford (he was still in his old time slot then.) I purposely spent at least 10-15 minutes on 640 just to give Stafford the slightest boost. It probably didn't amount to anything in the long run, but I hoped that my choice might have even a minute impact.

So in that sense, I was well aware of the tiny bit of faux "power" I held during those two weeks.

SOWNY » Results of the Spring 2018 diary ratings » Yesterday 4:47 pm

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Radiowiz wrote:

cGrant wrote:

Radiowiz wrote:

Anyone know if Numeris is still paying that same pathetic $2 it's been for decades for all the time and effort put into doing a  PPM or diary?

Yes, they are.
 

Are you sure? How do you know that?
Someone else out there with very good credibility is trying to tell me it's $5 now.

All I can tell you is from my own experience. And in my case, I found a $5 bill.  

SOWNY » Results of the Spring 2018 diary ratings » Yesterday 4:21 pm

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CONFESSIONS OF A DIARY FILLER
 
I’m not sure if I ever mentioned this before, but a few years ago, when I was – as some who worked for Bell this week can now attest – between gigs, I received a radio diary from Numeris. It contained pages that covered every single hour of every single day for two weeks, divided into quarter hour increments from 6 AM to 1 AM. (They had zero interest in what was on my radio overnights.)
 
The envelope came with a crisp $5 bill (not a twonie) to encourage/guilt you into participating. They actually called my house just before it was supposed to start to make sure I was aware of it, pleading with me to fill it out.
 
Being the broadcast and radio geek I am, I didn’t need their incentives. Of course I would give it all my attention. Having lived by ratings for so long (and never completely believing in the system that governed whether any of us had a job or not) this was my chance to finally be on the other side.
 
And so the week came, with yet another call from Numeris reminding me that this was it! But when it started, I was immediately aggravated by the form. I admit I’m not your normal ratings-diary-filler-outer-type, having worked in either TV or radio for decades by that point. Like many here, I’m also an inveterate dial changer, rarely lingering long on just one station.
 
But the diary insisted I had to fill out the one station I listened to in each 15 minute increment. The problem: in 15 minutes, I often tuned in 3 stations or more. Yet they gave no place to indicate that. So I phoned their info line to ask them about this. Considering the ratings stakes, their answer was stunning: "Just put in the one you heard the longest."
 
So let me get this straight – you want me to favour one station over another simply because I may have been tuned in for 30 secs. longer than the second place I monitored? This was how they determined who gets the best numbers, gets to keep their jobs or gets rewarded with pay

SOWNY » Friday Flashback: Hockey Night In Canada - On Vinyl? » Yesterday 12:36 pm

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maybo wrote:

I received it as a Christmas gift and still have it.

Wow. Apparently I was in error. The Hockey Night in Canada theme song IS on there. There are two of these up on eBay at present. One is going for $50. The other is a whopping $97! (Converted to Canadian coin.)

But about that shipping charge - it ranges from $12.50 to just under $32 - more than the entire LP was originally worth. (I knew that 50 cent shipping and handling charge was a bargain...)  

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SOWNY » Results of the Spring 2018 diary ratings » Yesterday 9:06 am

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Irvine wrote:

@radioactive
They'll allow dead AM signals to continue broadcasting as long as they can use them as a tax write off. 

Possible. But really, the TSN format requires live hosts, (often more than one at a time,) a producer, a screener and more. I'd hate to see anyone laid off, but that's a lot of salary to spend on a radio restaurant where there are almost no diners.

SOWNY » Results of the Spring 2018 diary ratings » Yesterday 9:00 am

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Wow, what a sad, although not particularly unexpected, result for CKOC in Hamilton. A 0.1, down from 0.5 last spring. There are probably more people at a given sporting event than are actually listening to TSN 1150. Even Funny 820 does a tiny bit better - and that's a turnkey operation with no live talent.

Yet it appears Bell wouldn't dream of giving up on the All Sports format, ostensibly because it helps spread the TSN brand. My question: who is it spreading it to, if there's no one listening? This is a fairly expensive format, even with syndicated or network fill-ins. 

Yes, AM is fading and to many, it's already been pronounced dead. I wonder how many more books they will allow this endless bleeding to go on?  

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SOWNY » Friday Flashback: Hockey Night In Canada - On Vinyl? » Yesterday 7:09 am

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With the Stanley Cup finals looming, this seems appropriate. Still, I’m not sure I would have believed this if I hadn’t seen the ad below, But there it is – an LP entirely devoted to Hockey Night In Canada.

It doesn't feature the famous theme song from the long running sports attraction – that’s now owned by Bell. Instead, it appears to be an album sporting famous calls and moments from the game, and boasts voices like Foster Hewitt, Dick Irvin, Danny Gallivan and more.
 
After initially thinking this was the most ridiculous thing in the world, I admit to having a change of heart. Although I wouldn’t be listening to it often (let alone a double-LP!) it might actually be a neat souvenir to have of these broadcast games and voices from the past and all for the bargain price of just $6.98 (and 50 cents for shipping. Are you listening Amazon?)

I'll give them one thing. They claim in the ad that this is "the most exciting record set ever produced about NHL hockey in Canada." That may be because it's likely the only such record on the subject ever produced in Canada or anywhere else. 
 
I wonder how may people actually bought this back in 1972?
 
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SOWNY » Remember those Morgan Freeman voiceovers? » Thu May 24 9:08 pm

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A long, long time ago, in a radio galaxy far, far away, the station I was at had a dispute with the guy who voiced the intro of one of their regular and much listened to on air features. After they announced one day that his services would no longer be necessary, he demanded an outrageous amount of money to let us continue using his voice, or he threatened to sue. (I’m not sure exactly how he was able to make this threat, since they paid him for his work, but that was never disclosed to me.)
 
Instead, as the guy in charge of these things, I was asked to simply cut him out altogether and have someone else do the intro. And incredibly, they got me one of the best voices in radio at the time, Don Parrish, the old CHFI veteran. But my boss insisted that because everyone knew the old intro, we had to make it sound like it was almost the same.
 
Needless to say, my boss left me to break this bit of news to Mr. Parrish. “YOU WANT ME TO SOUND LIKE WHO?” he thundered at me in that amazing baritone after I told him about the read we needed. “Hey, I’m Don Parrish!”
 
Now I know that seems egotistical of him, but he wasn’t really like that. He just couldn’t figure out why someone would hire such a well-known voice only to have him mimic somebody else. In the end, though, pro that he was, he did it and – after listening to the original a few times – he was near perfect. I’m not sure if anyone ever knew that first guy had been replaced. But I’ve never forgotten that session or how the people I worked for hung me out to dry!

SOWNY » How Bill Cosby Almost Wound Up As A Regular On "Cheers" » Thu May 24 2:57 pm

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The items listed below aren't reviews, per se. Instead, they're actual memos issued by network program executives to various producers over the years. It's from a book entitled "A Martian Wouldn't Say That," and the excerpt appeared in the U.S. TV Guide on July 30, 1994. 

And you have to know as you read the page that every single one of them is 100% real. As they say, you couldn't make this stuff up.

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SOWNY » Steve Anthony On CFOX, Q107, MuchMusic, BT & CP24 » Wed May 23 12:19 pm

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He was on local TV screens for years and in this interview on FYImusicnews.ca, Steve Anthony recounts how he got into radio, why Q107 was the best place to work, some MuchMusic rock star interviews that didn't quite go as planned and how he wound up on both BT and CP24's Breakfast show. 

A Conversation With .. Steve Anthony
 

SOWNY » E-cigarette and vaping ads coming soon to a TV or radio near you » Wed May 23 8:54 am

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While cigarette ads have long been banned from TV airwaves both here and in the U.S., there's a possibility that commercials for vaping could soon be seen and heard on local media here, thanks to a quirk in a new law about the promotion of the habit. 

E-cigarette and vaping ads coming soon to a TV, radio or newspaper near you

SOWNY » Radio Humsafar 1350 Brampton » Wed May 23 8:46 am

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It's amazing how a thread on Radio Humsafar turned into this. That said, these two articles serendipitously turned up online Wednesday on Radioink.com. Both are from a U.S. perspective but the same principles could easily apply here. 

Where Radio Went Wrong With HD

It’s Time To Kill The AM Band

SOWNY » How Bill Cosby Almost Wound Up As A Regular On "Cheers" » Tue May 22 11:21 pm

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Actually, my all time favourite movie review came from Variety. It was for the movie Jaws 3D, released in 1983. The critique consisted of just two words.

"Lacks depth."

I thought that just about said it all!

SOWNY » How Bill Cosby Almost Wound Up As A Regular On "Cheers" » Tue May 22 8:15 pm

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For the past few months, the Hollywood Reporter has been doing an irregular piece reuniting the cast and crew of famous TV shows to explore what happened behind the scenes that no one ever knew. (So far, they've done Seinfeld, Rowan and Martin's Laugh In, The Bob Newhart Show, MASH and more, and all of them have been incredible for fans of those shows.)

This week, they've chosen to mark the 25th anniversary of the infamous "Cheers" finale, and this article, filled with inside stories from the writers, doesn't disappoint. Among my favourite revelations: how a now notorious person almost ended up as a regular on the show. 

"In the early stages, Bill Cosby had a deal at NBC and was unattached to a project. So, he was offered to us as the bartender. But we had two rules. No known names and no characters' name as the title of the show."

Considering what's happened since, that's one lucky break. 


One other observation is, to me, equally interesting, especially for this board.

"...we were writing radio. It was all about the dialogue, spoken and unspoken. It was the characters, the relationships. They were so interesting, consistent, and mutable, that we rarely had to leave the bar. One set, 11 years."

Not bad, considering the show was in last place during its first year and was near cancellation. Today, it's considered one of the greatest ever.

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SOWNY » Technology cont'd - the golden age of Minidisc » Tue May 22 2:27 pm

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Mike Cleaver wrote:

This has been Sony's problem since the beginning.
They made everything proprietary. 

Isn't that exactly what Apple is doing? Seems to work fine for them! Odd how one company makes a go of the 'protect your own' thing while the other messes it up completely.  

Mike Cleaver wrote:

The Elcaset was another disaster and didn't last very long.

Ah, ye olde Elcaset. The very first Toronto radio newsroom I worked in had one of these contraptions and while they were good for recording long news feeds in fairly decent quality, they were a pain to cue up and/or find the particular cut you were looking for. And you still had to transfer them to reel anyway if you wanted to edit anything. Plus getting the actual 'tapes' to use in it meant there was only one source and that, of course, meant Sony controlled the price. 

It was mostly totally useless and I never did figure out why they bought it in the first place. However I did find one special project for it. Long before the days of streaming music, MP3 players or even Walkmans, I would patch a radio feed into the machine, hit record, and let it gather music for about an hour. Then when I had some down time, I always had something to listen to while working overnights. 

It was only the late 70s but considering how far technology has come, it seems like centuries ago.

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SOWNY » Friday Flashback: Only The CBC Would Do This In 1974 » Fri May 18 12:16 pm

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I was going through some old TV Guides in my collection (and yes, I used to collect them as a sort of "pop culture" history book of its time) when I came across the ad below. It was for a CBC show called "Flipside," a summer series that aired in 1974. But only CBC would think to put together the two guests advertised on this particular episode from July 27th of that year. 

Yep, it's James Leroy and David Bowie! One was a Canadian one hit wonder ("You Look Good In Denim" was his biggest Canada-only tune.) And the other, of course, was the legendary David Bowie. I would have loved to have seen these two together on the same show! 

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Not sure who was on next week's show, but judging by this line-up, I'm guessing it could have been Mama Cass and Black Sabbath.

SOWNY » Film Bio Of Former Buffalo Rock Radio Veteran Set To Debut » Thu May 17 12:38 pm

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I'm not sure if we'll ever get to see it, but keep an eye out for a documentary on Dick Biondi, now 86 years young and still playing oldies on the radio. Many here will remember the name from the early days of WKBW in Buffalo, but he really soared to fame in Chicago, where he remains a legend.

If nothing else, the trailers  for “The Voice that Rocked America: The Dick Biondi Story” look intriguing. And you don't necessarily have to have ever heard his show to find his story fascinating - after all, how many people can boast a 60-year on-air career in a very fickle radio business, and have everyone from the Buckinghams to the Beach Boys credit him for helping them achieve fame? 

Despite a recent health setback, the fact that he's still doing it is simply mind-boggling.    

Trailer One

Trailer Two

Dickbiondifilm.com

SOWNY » Why Wednesday’s Noon TV Newscasts May Have Been The Worst Ever » Wed May 16 2:34 pm

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I thought I was the only one who was dreading the wedding. Then I read this in the Toronto Star:

Why we should boycott the royal wedding

SOWNY » Why Wednesday’s Noon TV Newscasts May Have Been The Worst Ever » Wed May 16 12:22 pm

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I did something for the first time on Wednesday I’ve never done before – turn off every local station’s noon newscast in absolute disgust. It’s been my habit for years to watch the nooners on the three main local stations that do them in Toronto. (Yes, I can get it all off the web, but old habits die hard.) But this day was like none I’ve ever seen.  
 
First, an admission that may not endear me to many. I can’t stand the Royals and care nothing about their wedding. (While I acknowledge the historical significance of the Windsors, I would argue that we live in a supposedly modern world where a caste system, like slavery and feudalism, are long and rightfully left to the trash heaps of history. So what, exactly, is their claim to fame? They were born, period. Boy, that’s quite an accomplishment, shared by several billion people around the world who are also getting married at some point in their lives but who get no attention whatsoever. But I digress.)
 
There is a lot going on today – a cyclist in the city was fatally injured by a truck, an alleged drunk driver appears to have killed her passenger in a terrible crash, the election is coming with more promises made, the Middle East continues to explode, the potential cancellation of the Korea talks, etc. etc. So here’s what the three locals who do a noon newscast decided to lead with on Wednesday:
 
CTV
 
The Royal wedding. I realize it’s a popular choice for some producers, but they devoted more than 6 minutes of non-news off the top to this thing – and it doesn’t even happen for four days. The fact that there’s nothing really to say about this “momentous” event until it takes place hasn’t stopped any of them from covering every conceivable ridiculous angle from what kind of flowers are being used to Burger King offering a Royal Wedding special until after the weekend. But Global News takes the wedding cake - they did an entire segment on a so-called handwriting ex

SOWNY » Failed Remote Leaves 640’s Mid-Morning Show Scrambling » Wed May 16 9:37 am

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There was an interesting “behind the curtain” moment on 640 Wednesday morning, after the line being used by fill-in host Peter Shurman went down temporarily. One moment he was on mic, the next he was barely audible on a cell phone, as in studio exec. producer Jason Chapman had to jump in to maintain any semblance of audio quality.
 
It took about 10 minutes to fix, with Shurman confessing where he really was (Niagara-on-the-Lake) and blaming an engineering error for the outage.
 
Most of the time, radio stations get away with these kinds of things during remote broadcasts. But when it goes awry, it can really sound awful.
 
I can certainly see why doing it that way is more efficient. And most times, you can’t tell. The Motts were nowhere near CFRB’s studios in all the years they were doing weekends there and they made no secret of it. Jerry Agar has admitted doing some of his shows in the early days from his old stomping grounds, Chicago. I believe I’ve heard John Moore talk about very occasionally being in Montreal for a few of his shifts. Andrew Lawton was at CFPL in London during his fill-in days on 640.
 
The technology is great when it works, and it’s seamless. But when it doesn’t, it sounds awful. Reluctantly admitting you've been  fooling your listeners doesn’t do much for your credibility. Fortunately, it doesn’t happen very often. But on Wednesday, it did. Does it matter in the end? Probably not, But it sure was fun to listen to this time around.

SOWNY » Vintage Voice From Toronto Radio's Past Sits In For Charles Adler » Tue May 15 9:28 pm

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I thought I remembered the voice of the guy sitting in for an ailing Charles Adler on Tuesday night. It was none other than Stirling Faux, who many here will remember from the early Top 40 days of CFTR. He's long been an established on air talent on the west coast, having moved there in 1974 and is now a regular on originating station CKNW. But it's the first time his voice has been heard back here fronting a show in a long time. 

He still sounds great, but unfortunately, he wasn't required to hit any posts, although I'm guessing after all those years in the biz, he wouldn't have any problems doing that!

Dale Patterson's always excellent Rockradioscrapbook.ca site has a vintage aircheck of Faux on 'TR in Toronto. You can hear it here.

Stirling Faux website,

In this great video from 2014, Faux reminisces about 40 years in radio, including stories about how he grew up with CHUM, why he was excited to have his picture on a music chart, why you weren't allowed to fraternize with other stations' jocks, and surviving bomb threats from Quebec separatists. 

SOWNY » Get Ready For Your TV, Radio - & Phones - To Be Interrupted May 7th » Tue May 15 6:17 pm

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My favourite part, if you can call it that, of the bogus CRA guy's spiel came when I got one of those calls a few months ago.

After threatening every conceivable disaster - arresting you, taking your house, ruining your credit, destroying your reputation, leaving your children destitute etc. -if I didn't comply immediately, the recording ended with the guy saying, "Thank you and have a nice day!"

That was one of the funniest codas I've ever heard. 

SOWNY » The Evanovs’ Latest Plan: Switch Pride FM To 103.5 & CIDC To 103.7 » Tue May 15 11:53 am

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They're located in the part of the CRTC website Applications Open for Comment, which isn't always easy to find. The problem with linking to them is that you have to download a .zip file, so there's no pure page to link to. If you're game to see everything and don't mind putting the file on your phone or PC, here are the direct ways to get both

CIDC Application

CIRR Application

If you have trouble with those, you can find the general page here and scroll down to the two Dufferin Communications applications.  

And by the way, it's worth noting that among all the paperwork is a statement from Brookfield Properties confirming that, should the 103.5 swap be given, space would be available for a transmitter on First Canadian Place, combining with the existing CIRV at 88.9, with Dufferin picking up the tab for any costs incurred.

SOWNY » Hysterical, Historical (& Hysteria) Tone Marks Old Anti-Pay TV Ad » Tue May 15 11:02 am

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It's hard to believe now, but there were people who believed "pay TV" (aka cable) would be the ruination of regular broadcast television. (This was long before the Internet was even on the horizon, which really has done more than anything to threaten broadcast TV.) And they spent a small fortune for a nationally distributed ad in TV Guide on May 10, 1969 to warn people about this coming menace. 

The hysteria in the ad is laughable. "Pay TV would compel you and your family to subscribe and pay for the same type of TV programs you now receive on FREE TV without any charge."  

Real cable stations didn't come into existence for several years after this was published, so I have no idea what those behind this thing were talking about. But considering the number of cable stations in the U.S. is now so vast, this campaign is downright laughable. Although they clearly took it seriously back then. 

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SOWNY » Could 1 Company Own Every U.S. Radio Stn. In A Market? It May Happen » Mon May 14 12:34 pm

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There was a time not long ago when many decried the idea that the big guys, like Entercom, iHeart and Cumulus, were swallowing up markets, taking over big radio stations and leaving little local behind. The latter two of the above mentioned have already filed for bankruptcy and own some of the biggest radio stations in the world - including WABC, WLS and more. 

To a growing number, the fact they've been allowed to take over so many huge outlets so quickly was alarming. But according to an article in Forbes, the new FCC Commissioner really, really likes deregulation. So much so that there's a chance he and his cronies may just allow one large company to literally own every station in a market as a way to survive. 

What's the logic in such a move? According to defenders, Facebook and Google are siphoning away huge amounts of advertising, and this would allow them to get bigger, better and more muscular in chasing already decreasing ad dollars by squeezing out independents who can charge lower rates for their commercials.

From Forbes:

"Under current FCC rules, in the name of competition, no one station group can be the dominant voice in a market. So in your typical radio market, even in small markets, you might have four or five groups competing for listeners and advertisers.

Many in radio...want the rules changed to reduce competition. So instead of five competitors in a market, there might be just three or two, maybe even just one.

The rationale: With digital players like Google and Facebook sopping up over half of all local ad dollars, and each enjoying 100 percent audience penetration, it no longer makes sense to limit radio’s share of audience. Easing the rules to allow any one radio group to gain 40 or 50 percent share of audience would help it to better compete."
 

I don't buy that argument - reducing competition almost never makes things better. But that's what they're using to underpin the idea. For those of us on the border, imagine if say,

SOWNY » Get Ready For Your TV, Radio - & Phones - To Be Interrupted May 7th » Mon May 14 11:09 am

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An Amber Alert went out over Toronto radio and TV stations just after the noon hour Monday, warning about a missing and possibly abducted child. It comes just days after the first test of the emergency system was mostly a complete bust on a majority of cell phones. Did anyone's cell get this one?

SOWNY » The Secrets Behind The Classic Show “Seinfeld” You Never Knew » Mon May 14 10:15 am

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I’m a huge fan of TV history and love the inside stories behind great shows I enjoyed – but never knew. And so it was that I came across an amazing treasure trove about one of the true greats - “Seinfeld.”
 
The linked article, which culls info from dozens of never before published interviews with the cast and creators, contains amazing revelations about what might have been if things had worked out differently – and might have completely changed the finished product forever.
 
Without giving away too much, there are stories about why the show’s original concept surrounding two stand-up comics had to be changed, who originally were considered for the roles of George Costanza and Kramer, the reason Elaine was not in the original concept and why “Everybody Loves Raymond’s” mother almost filled that role for George’s character instead.
 
And that’s just a partial list. There are also breakdowns of some of the most famous shows, including how the Emmy winning “The Contest” (about masturbation) managed to get by the censors, and why “Not that there’s anything wrong with it,” saved a classic episode from winding up on the trash heap.
 
Probably my favourite factoid is that Len Lesser, the actor who played Uncle Leo ("Jerry! Hello!”) originally tried out for the role of George’s father and didn’t get it. But they liked him so much they invented another part for him to play.
 
And how about this for symmetry for classic sitcoms – the set for the infamous Monk’s restaurant where the gang got coffee was the same stage where Rob Petrie’s living room once sat on “The Dick van Dyke Show.”
 
If you’re a fan of the show, I hope you’ll get as big a kick of the article as I did.
 
You can find it here.

SOWNY » The Evanovs’ Latest Plan: Switch Pride FM To 103.5 & CIDC To 103.7 » Sat May 12 8:53 pm

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Irvine wrote:

And this whole CIDC is an "Orangeville" station is such a moot point.  The station went to Top 40/Dance sometime around 1994-5.  Having been a listener locally & from afar for much of that time I don't ever remember them telling the world they were from Orangeville.  So why is it suddenly an issue now?  Or is this just a "radio" tempest in a tea pot. 

Actually, it was the CRTC that made this a big deal. Evanov tried to make a case that many so-called Toronto stations - Q107, licenced to North York, CFNY, originally a Brampton station, and CFMJ which is legally in Richmond Hill - all get away with acting like Toronto outlets. So why not Z103.5?

In a ruling last December, the Commission ignored those examples and came down on them like a ton of bricks, insisting they serve their area of licence and report Orangeville news, traffic and weather, as well as other local events and to stop courting Toronto listeners and advertisers. It may not be entirely fair, but that was the decision and that's the only reason it ever became an issue.

Many here on the board, including yours truly, were of the opinion that they knew what they were applying for when they got that licence and they should have to live with the terms of the deal. However, I will acknowledge they do have a point about how those other stations don't entirely live up to serving only their areas of licence, either. 

It was a remarkable and very touchy exchange between the Evanvovs and the CRTC, with the former all but accusing the government agency of trying to drive them out of business in this market. And according to the new frequency exchange request, the company says that could still happen if this latest application is denied.

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